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    So I talked to my doctor and like I expected she gave me bs to avoid giving me hgh. I guess it's because of the way healthcare in Germany. I'll go to another doctor and see how that plays out, but I think I'm going to end up buying my own testosterone since hgh is way too expensive for me.

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    can you see another doc who might be open to hgh?......

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    both deca and var are indicated for wasting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by upperhandy View Post
    both deca and var are indicated for wasting....
    That maybe true but will healthcare in Germany go for such treatments.. First thing is to try and find a Dr who is more open minded about treating such things.

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    Damn UC you have an amazing attitude!! Lots of respect for you, especially being such a young guy.

    I honestly wish you the best of luck and hope you live a long and healthy life.. now go and get on some HGH!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercover View Post
    I hope so as well.

    And no I didn't forget to rubber up. I still don't know how or when I got it but it's kind of pointless now.
    I would say the how and the when are very important. What if someone is out there infecting others and either does or doesnt know it.

    There was a case here in the states a few years back of a guy in New Jersey who knowingly infected his partners. All said and done over 500 people that where HIV+ could be traced back to him either directly or indirectly.
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    Well, I told everyone I might have put into risk about my status. I can't go around thinking or accusing people of infecting me though.

    I found a really awesome book on the subject "Built to Survive". It's about nutrition and proper use of anabolic steroids for HIV+ patients. It highlights the importance of testosterone cycles for HIV patients, so I'm going to read up on that and go for it.

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    Well your young man keep your head up dude any thing is possable if magic made it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I would say the how and the when are very important. What if someone is out there infecting others and either does or doesnt know it.

    There was a case here in the states a few years back of a guy in New Jersey who knowingly infected his partners. All said and done over 500 people that where HIV+ could be traced back to him either directly or indirectly.
    messed up shit man...heard a similar story about a guy in miami doing that too

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