Starting Testosterone Questions. Help is Greatly Appreciated.

**The Bear 79** · 12-06-2011, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by miscer

the op has some good points everyone. IIFYM is an idea that doesn't say eat 10 chicken breasts and 20 snickers bars. that's ridiculous. But say for example I eat 3k cals.

Well assuming I get in: micro nutrients, daily fats (no trans fats, high poly unsaturated and mono unsaturated and med-low saturated), protein intake and phyto-nutrients as well as antioxidants, and daily fiber intake then im fine.

After that if I had 600 calories left over somehow sure I can eat a wendy's frosty. I think people are taking it to the extreme like "10 frostys and all junk food."

If It Fits Your Macros basically supports moderation and says maybe 10-20% of your calories (assuming everything else has been met) can be what many would call "cheat" foods. That doesn't mean you have a shit diet.

He's not talking bout "cheat meals" he's talkin bout eating ALL SH!T / GARBAGE / FATTY, DIABETES INDUCING, SHIT, ALL THE TIME. If eat sh!t u will look like sh!t, period. Just look @ his pics, point proven.

**Jake198599** · 12-06-2011, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Brohim

ok so I can have a candy bar but I have to eat it as part of a meal? And thanks for doing the writeup for me. And 250g. of protein; what sources of protein did you get to only add up to 988 calories? I try to get my protein mostly from food.

No, you can eat candy whenever you want. 1g of protein is 4 calories. 1g of fat is 9 calories. I was making an example that if you were to perfectly match your minimums of fat/protein, how much left over calories you could use on whatever you want. You have 462 calories to play with is what I was getting at.

**Jake198599** · 12-06-2011, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

He's not talking bout "cheat meals" he's talkin bout eating ALL SH!T / GARBAGE / FATTY, DIABETES INDUCING, SHIT, ALL THE TIME. If eat sh!t u will look like sh!t, period. Just look @ his pics, point proven.

I didn't say you could eat garbage all the time, because if you did only eat Pizza/ice-cream, it would be pretty much impossible to reach your minimum protein/fat goals without going over your Calorie limit for most people.

Use Brohim for example, who needs 250g protein. If he ate only Dominos cheese Pizza which is 12g protein 290 calories he would need to eat 21 Pizza slices to get over 250g protein.

21 pizza slices = 6090 calories

That would not work for him.