Cycle at 22

[cherryking]

lol, oh please. This really did make me laugh. But i have small bones. Just like every fat person is big boned. I'm sure you tear up your weight class cause your all muscle

Post a pic i want to see this mma phenom

When you study deep into human anatomy, you will find that everyone has different bone structures, a naturally bigger build of a man or women will have much larger tendon insertions and a better base of non superficial muscle. You wan't mock me saying "oh I have small bones" Stating I am using it as an excuse for my weight, it just encourages me more to do my cycle, because by you telling me that I am wrong when i know i am right, just discredits anything else you have to say to me about anything, because I now see you as a liar. Any real knowledgeable person of human anatomy should know that a persons height can in fact inhibit ones ability for compound lifts, being at a low body fat, or a high body fat, has absolutely no relation to the size of ones frame. I am a very small framed individual, meaning I am long limbed, and always will be. And i tear up my weight class because I bring something very unique to the sport being such a long limbed fighter, It's is very awkward to fight me.

[cherryking]

No matter how you change the wording of your question in this and your other post you keep getting the same reply. Do you know the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Good luck.

Well if you keep posting with the same answers, then you are insane as well

[cherryking]

Dude that's just fvckin ridiculous. lol. If you had "smaller bones" you would be a less adequate fighter not a better fighter, bone density is vital in boxing & mma, if you have little girl bones, your career will be very short lived.

Yah? obviously with that statement you don't have extensive training under the form of BJJ, obviously Anderson Silvia is a pretty shitty fighter then because of his long limbs and "Girly" frame.

[gixxerboy1]

When you study deep into human anatomy, you will find that everyone has different bone structures, a naturally bigger build of a man or women will have much larger tendon insertions and a better base of non superficial muscle. You wan't mock me saying "oh I have small bones" Stating I am using it as an excuse for my weight, it just encourages me more to do my cycle, because by you telling me that I am wrong when i know i am right, just discredits anything else you have to say to me about anything, because I now see you as a liar. Any real knowledgeable person of human anatomy should know that a persons height can in fact inhibit ones ability for compound lifts, being at a low body fat, or a high body fat, has absolutely no relation to the size of ones frame. I am a very small framed individual, meaning I am long limbed, and always will be. And i tear up my weight class because I bring something very unique to the sport being such a long limbed fighter, It's is very awkward to fight me.

your post makes no sense. You stated before that because of your small bones you are carrying more muscle. So saying someone else of your height and weight has less muscle then you. And that is why you can tear up everyone in your weight class.
I dont know how you got into compound lifts and everything else in your post.
And yes your using small bones as an excuse for your weights like others with im a hard gainer or i have a super metabolism.

I used to think the same thing when i was young and wrestling at 119-125lbs. Now that i know how to eat and train properly i laugh at myself sitting at 200lb now

[DanB]

your post makes no sense. You stated before that because of your small bones you are carrying more muscle. So saying someone else of your height and weight has less muscle then you. And that is why you can tear up everyone in your weight class.
I dont know how you got into compound lifts and everything else in your post.
And yes your using small bones as an excuse for your weights like others with im a hard gainer or i have a super metabolism.

I used to think the same thing when i was young and wrestling at 119-125lbs. Now that i know how to eat and train properly i laugh at myself sitting at 200lb now

haha and how tall are you again? lol

[cherryking]

your post makes no sense. You stated before that because of your small bones you are carrying more muscle. So saying someone else of your height and weight has less muscle then you. And that is why you can tear up everyone in your weight class.
I dont know how you got into compound lifts and everything else in your post.
And yes your using small bones as an excuse for your weights like others with im a hard gainer or i have a super metabolism.

I used to think the same thing when i was young and wrestling at 119-125lbs. Now that i know how to eat and train properly i laugh at myself sitting at 200lb now

In theory if one person is 6'1 10%BF and 160LBS and his bones weigh 60 pounds, because he is big boned (short limbed) and you have another person 6'1 10%BF and 160LBS and his bones weigh 30 pounds, because he is small boned (long limbed), who has more muscle? What I was stating only holds true in weight class sports. Im not making this shit up lol I go to school which may be irrelevant, but I am a smart guy who dose his research, My father was a very successful bodybuilder of his day may he RIP and I plan to follow in his foot steps

[gixxerboy1]

and if you think there is a 30lb weight difference in bone structure of someone the same height your nuts

and i understand weight class fighting. I wrestled for 15 years and fought mma also

[gixxerboy1]

haha and how tall are you again? lol

im a towering 5'6 but i have big bones

[Simon1972]

I eat 3-4 cartons of egg whites a day

thats like 48 eggs a day- if your joking thats funny.

you must look like arnie!-

and if you are really that smart how can you claim a 6 foot 1 skeletal frame weighs 30-60 pounds skeletal weightes are between 12-20% averageing 15% of overall weight on an average person.- you'd be hard pressed to find anyone with 60 pound skeletal weight. 30-40 pound maybe...

[cherryking]

Maybe someone with an education could step into this thread, no insults intended, just someone with the knowledge that can back me up that having a very long limbed, or small frame sets your body back to what it can naturally achieve.

[cherryking]

Haha far from arnie, its actually more then 48 eggs.. and when I go to work i drink them, and because of lack of denaturation to the proteins Ill drink a 1/3rd more so my body still gets the same protein up take about 60 eggs in that case...

[gixxerboy1]

and because people who dont agree with you arent educated?
I do agree about longer limbs do effect compound movement. But thats not what the original disagreement was about.
What do you think arm length varies on someone your height? Maybe couple inches. How much do you really think that effects total body weight? not much, its not going to make a 30lb difference like you are claiming

[cherryking]

Then why are you questioning me on the frame size? you should know something about "Body style" as many fighters seem to refer to it. what's your record? amy and pro? if any

[gixxerboy1]

Then why are you questioning me on the frame size? you should know something about "Body style" as many fighters seem to refer to it. what's your record? amy and pro? if any

re-read what you originally wrote. maybe you will see why everyone disagrees with you
i fought in cage of furry, reality fighting, combat in the cage.

[songdog]

Wat part of NO dont you understand? Now how can some kid who dont know about aas sit there with guys. some who were doing cycles before he was born.And keep coming up with the same STUPID lines others before him tryed.Do you really think you can teach us something?

[cherryking]

and because people who dont agree with you arent educated?
I do agree about longer limbs do effect compound movement. But thats not what the original disagreement was about.
What do you think arm length varies on someone your height? Maybe couple inches. How much do you really think that effects total body weight? not much, its not going to make a 30lb difference like you are claiming

and a long limbed person can the same length of arm as a short limbed person... omg... I just refered to the education because if anyone out there has a degree in psychology/anatomy we could possibly settle the pissing contest, Long limbed-small bone diameter, thin skull. Short limbed- large bone diameter, thick skull. same length in bones! obviously no one knows or understands what I am talking about...

[gixxerboy1]

and a long limbed person can the same length of arm as a short limbed person... omg... I just refered to the education because if anyone out there has a degree in psychology/anatomy we could possibly settle the pissing contest, Long limbed-small bone diameter, thin skull. Short limbed- large bone diameter, thick skull. same length in bones! obviously no one knows or understands what I am talking about...

i understand what you are saying. But the amount of weight of the actual skeletal frame isnt going to be that big of a difference. So your implication before of haveing a small frame and holding so much extra muscle because of it and dominating in your weight class is crazy.

So yes we get it. You dont get that it doesnt effect the weight as much as you are implying

[cherryking]

When your wrists are only 6 and a Q inches at 6'2 it really inhibits your body's natural potential for muscle growth! measure a mans wrist who is 5'1 his wrist's will still be much larger then mine and he will have a much greater genetic potential. I am small framed, and that will never change.

[cherryking]

i understand what you are saying. But the amount of weight of the actual skeletal frame isnt going to be that big of a difference. So your implication before of haveing a small frame and holding so much extra muscle because of it and dominating in your weight class is crazy.

So yes we get it. You dont get that it doesnt effect the weight as much as you are implying

If I remember correctly, your bones make up around 15% of your total body weight... and if you are large framed could be as great as say 23% and if your small famed could be as little as 8%

[gixxerboy1]

omg some shoot me your right..
you have almost no bones. its amazing your not an actual jelly fish. You are just 190lbs of pure muscle and a dominating force in mma that nobody will be able to contend with. I wait to look back when you are ufc champ, of multiple weight classes of course and say man. i knew that kid from steroid .com, i should have listened to him

[cherryking]

If I remember correctly, your bones make up around 15% of your total body weight... and if you are large framed could be as great as say 23% and if your small famed could be as little as 13%

So yes it could make a big difference, but who gives a shit, the fighting in classes doesn't matter, the fact of the matter is that, I am small framed and my genetic potential falls much shorter then many of you would think.

[gixxerboy1]

If I remember correctly, your bones make up around 15% of your total body weight... and if you are large framed could be as great as say 23% and if your small famed could be as little as 13%

even going by those numbers on a 200lb person. the 10% difference is only 20lbs.and that is the max range. Not the 60lbs you were claiming before.

[DanB]

30lbs is never going to happen in the terms you just posted above, mabey 2-3lbs max, its too early for me to do the math but Id bet a substantial amount it is a couple lbs at most based in the figures you gave so in fairness that just strenghtens gixxers point that it makes fvckall of a difference

EDIT

Gix you beat me to it, its too early to type quickly here, im out have fun

[gixxerboy1]

no he is right, i just checked, im small framed too. the only reason im 200lbs is because of all the muscle i carry and of course my huge penis. lol

[DanB]

no he is right, i just checked, im small framed too. the only reason im 200lbs is because of all the muscle i carry and of course my huge penis. lol

Going to need dsm to verify that

[gixxerboy1]

better dsm then the gay stripper

[cherryking]

Really the argument or pissing contest started with, me stating I have small bones and being argued with that I do not have small bones. then progressed to apparently small bones shouldn't affect muscle growth... But the bigger the bones the bigger the tendon insertions, the bigger the tendons the bigger the muscles able to grow naturally on the tendons.. 190 pounds 12%BF with 6 inch wrists, I would like to see someone match those stats, How is that not a good base to start juice, obviously anyone who argues doesn't completely know what they are talking about.. "Completely" maybe they know 99% i am not trying to insult any of you.

[cherryking]

even going by those numbers on a 200lb person. the 10% difference is only 20lbs.and that is the max range. Not the 60lbs you were claiming before.

when did I claim 60? and i fight at 200 so yah.. lol

[cherryking]

thats like 48 eggs a day- if your joking thats funny.

you must look like arnie!-

and if you are really that smart how can you claim a 6 foot 1 skeletal frame weighs 30-60 pounds skeletal weightes are between 12-20% averageing 15% of overall weight on an average person.- you'd be hard pressed to find anyone with 60 pound skeletal weight. 30-40 pound maybe...

I used nice easy numbers to make it simple, which is why i said in theory!

[Simon1972]

If I remember correctly, your bones make up around 15% of your total body weight... and if you are large framed could be as great as say 23% and if your small famed could be as little as 8%

what do you mean if your remember correctly! i told you that bogcatcher!

[cherryking]

even going by those numbers on a 200lb person. the 10% difference is only 20lbs.and that is the max range. Not the 60lbs you were claiming before.

Oh I thought you meant a 60 pound difference in weight.. yeah i was just using tho's numbers to make it easy to understand

[C-BuZz]

[cherryking]

what do you mean if your remember correctly! i told you that bogcatcher!

I just know alot of random facts :S I was saying if i remember correctly in case i was wrong... ??

[AD]

i am getting a headache after reading thru all this...garbage...

[gixxerboy1]

when did I claim 60? and i fight at 200 so yah.. lol

sorry you claimed 30lbs. that 1.5 the max range for the numbers you gave. And the 20lb difference is if you have the lowest level of bone mass and everyone you are fighting has the highest range. Your trying to use extreme numbers to validate your claims

[Simon1972]

if you really want big bones- start doing weights- and you muscle density will improve- and then you might start thickening your bones- say by an additional 240%- everyone wants thick dense bones- take calcium liquid- theres one you can buy from the store thats milk flavoured and powdered water, those two supplements really help in getting thick bones.

[cherryking]

if you really want big bones- start doing weights- and you muscle density will improve- and then you might start thickening your bones- say by an additional 240%- everyone wants thick dense bones- take calcium liquid- theres one you can buy from the store thats milk flavoured and powdered water, those two supplements really help in getting thick bones.

Thx, but i don't believe you can make your bone thicker though! wish i did :/, i know that under stress your bones take on microscopic fractures that heal over time but 240% is a bit ridiculous IMO .. i have done research in to this and had asked my Doctor when I was younger and your bones will only grow in leanth from the plates and not in diameter, but the microscopic fractures in theory would ad size to them...

[cherryking]

sorry you claimed 30lbs. that 1.5 the max range for the numbers you gave. And the 20lb difference is if you have the lowest level of bone mass and everyone you are fighting has the highest range. Your trying to use extreme numbers to validate your claims

I am on the lowest range you can be and every one I fight seems to have a much larger then average frame, mabey why they fight, its actually really embarrassing, even most girls have bigger hands then me lol but my dad was the same and he went really far IMO so w/e's

[cherryking]

Thx, but i don't believe you can make your bone thicker though! wish i did :/, i know that under stress your bones take on microscopic fractures that heal over time but 240% is a bit ridiculous IMO .. i have done research in to this and had asked my Doctor when I was younger and your bones will only grow in leanth from the plates and not in diameter, but the microscopic fractures in theory would ad size to them...

but working out is proven to increase bone density, maybe up to 240%? but not diameter.. or you would look really ****ed up lol

[DanB]

Thx, but i don't believe you can make your bone thicker though! wish i did :/, i know that under stress your bones take on microscopic fractures that heal over time but 240% is a bit ridiculous IMO .. i have done research in to this and had asked my Doctor when I was younger and your bones will only grow in leanth from the plates and not in diameter, but the microscopic fractures in theory would ad size to them...

old school muay thai, being hit in shins with bamboo or kicking wooden posts to cause microfractures and its fvcking painful