Beginners Oral Cycle - Dianobol?

[austinite]

id do stanazolol... 20-40mg a day...6-8 weeks imo...

dont know nothing about pct have never done one.

p.s - oral cycle is not the best thing to do, and it will never produce as much quality gains than a propper cycle would.

Seriously?

[Shadowmaker]

Seriously?

seriously - what?

[austinite]

seriously - what?

You throw an oral only cycle at the kid without knowing anything about him. You should refrain from giving anyone advice.

[Shadowmaker]

You throw an oral only cycle at the kid without knowing anything about him. You should refrain from giving anyone advice.

80% of bodybuilders i know start with oral only cycle cause its cheap and it doesnt contain needles which are hard to get so young guys end up stabbing themselves with 1 needle for the whole cycle.

i will never refrain from giving advice just because some people think differently and you should never say something like that to anyone
bodybuilding is an individual sport - our bodys are different, our diet, training and our methods are different and so is our experience...
we cant limit opinions on this forum just because we dont agree with them or because we have different experience

[Lunk1]

80% of bodybuilders i know start with oral only cycle cause its cheap and it doesnt contain needles which are hard to get so young guys end up stabbing themselves with 1 needle for the whole cycle.

i will never refrain from giving advice just because some people think differently and you should never say something like that to anyone
bodybuilding is an individual sport - our bodys are different, our diet, training and our methods are different and so is our experience...
we cant limit opinions on this forum just because we dont agree with them or because we have different experience

Where are these 80% BB you know cause they need schooled too! Needles are the easiest and cheapest thing about steroids there is to find.

There are some effective orals available but I would suggest that they all be run with test as a base. For that matter I suggest test be run as a base for EVERYTHING! It boils down to this fear of needles. If you can't swing the bat don't step up to the plate!

[Shadowmaker]

Needles are the easiest and cheapest thing about steroids there is to find.

the most ignorant comment ever...
you do know that there are different countries in the world with different laws, right? LOL!

[Lunk1]

the most ignorant comment ever...
you do know that there are different countries in the world with different laws, right? LOL!

Really...!? I kinda thought this was the most ignorant comment ever "dont know nothing about pct have never done one"! But I am sure that 80% of the BB you know don't do PCT either!!!

[sunblock]

I'm 6ft 4".

[Bevsta123]

I'm 6ft 4".

By stats they mean age, height, weight.


Ps how is your diet?

[sunblock]

By stats they mean age, height, weight.

Ps how is your diet?

Originally Posted by sunblock
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Me at 17st2lbs (from my wife's phone in my 20's).

Trying to find a decent shot at 19st mark. I have some at 18.5st when I was in Australia 2000. Will scan in when I find them and post.

Follow the Crossfit diet system (Paleo)

[MuscleInk]

80% of bodybuilders i know start with oral only cycle cause its cheap and it doesnt contain needles which are hard to get so young guys end up stabbing themselves with 1 needle for the whole cycle.

i will never refrain from giving advice just because some people think differently and you should never say something like that to anyone
bodybuilding is an individual sport - our bodys are different, our diet, training and our methods are different and so is our experience...
we cant limit opinions on this forum just because we dont agree with them or because we have different experience

So then, why provide information based on what a supposed 80% of body builders do when you said, bodybuilding is an individual sport - our bodys are different, our diet, training and our methods are different and so is our experience.

Moreover, is that 80% of all body builders or 80% of the one's you personally know? If the latter, that could simply be a handful of people and hardly representative of the norm and in such a case the error in your sampling would be unacceptably high.

[Lunk1]

Squirrel!!!!!!

[BurntRbr]

Squirrel!!!!!!

I lol'd so hard

[Razor]

So then, why provide information based on what a supposed 80% of body builders do when you said, bodybuilding is an individual sport - our bodys are different, our diet, training and our methods are different and so is our experience.

Moreover, is that 80% of all body builders or 80% of the one's you personally know? If the latter, that could simply be a handful of people and hardly representative of the norm and in such a case the error in your sampling would be unacceptably high.

Ink let's end it ok. It better and more professional, we need to stop this. Points have been made on both side and we are required to respect that. If no agreements can be made, agree to disagree and everyone has a virtual beer and spills some for the fallen. Ok?

[Capebuffalo]

You throw an oral only cycle at the kid without knowing anything about him. You should refrain from giving anyone advice.

Doesnt know about pct wow. Keep up the good work. Got to be kidding.

[austinite]

Doesnt know about pct wow. Keep up the good work. Got to be kidding.

Yeah... scary. I worry some kid might listen to this guy one day.

[Shadowmaker]

Yeah... scary. I worry some kid might listen to this guy one day.

oh stop with the nazi stuff already...
im telling how stuff is done somewhere else and it is as right as the things you do... whats wrong with different methods? medicine, bodybuilding, steroids - everyone is different and everyone reacts different...
all you do is copy paste the same stupid crap in all the topics... im sharing my personal experience that just happens to be different because i come from a different part of the world... the stuff im saying should be used to compare methods and think of your own, not to ban/limit it just because its different...

you are so ignorant to really belive that people need pct that you are not even interested in the fact that half of the world doesnt do that and you just don't care about anything that is not your own opinion - wheres the point of you reading stuff if you know only 1 way and dont care about anything else?

[Shadowmaker]

Doesnt know about pct wow. Keep up the good work. Got to be kidding.

there is no such thing in where i live... you have half of the forum talking about stuff that no one has ever heared about in here... its something just you people do... we have lots of huge juniors as well as some really serious masters... no one has done the thing you call pct, no one has ever felt the need and there are no health problems because of that... bodybuilders in this part of the world are the only healthy people around... all im doin is sharing what i experience... as far as my age and experience goes - says the dude thats half my size still giving advice on steroid forums... your age = experience in what? yoga?

[Bevsta123]

there is no such thing in where i live... you have half of the forum talking about stuff that no one has ever heared about in here... its something just you people do... we have lots of huge juniors as well as some really serious masters... no one has done the thing you call pct, no one has ever felt the need and there are no health problems because of that... bodybuilders in this part of the world are the only healthy people around

Where do you live? Antarctica? North Pole?

[Capebuffalo]

K

Seriously?

He's 22 and doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Op do not listen to this inexperienced thing.

[Shadowmaker]

do not listen to this inexperienced thing.

experience is measured in the years of active progress... just because you're older doesnt mean that you actually lift and cycle for longer period of time... the dude in your avatar looks like i looked when i was 17... so where exatcly is you huge experience? at home sitting on a chair, writing coments? how about some bodybuilding experience for a change?

P.S - you could just tell me that you dont ever care about anything else then your one opinion that is spamed in every topic and ill just never write something like that again...
you dont have to say stupid stuff about the age just to look smarter - if you want to ban a difference of opinion, its allright with me - just dont hide your censorship behing some dumb age factor like you would really belive that 30 years of working as a pluber gives you any experience in bodybuilding.

[Capebuffalo]

experience is measured in the years of active progress... just because you're older doesnt mean that you actually lift and cycle for longer period of time... the dude in your avatar looks like i looked when i was 17... so where exatcly is you huge experience? at home sitting on a chair, writing coments? how about some bodybuilding experience for a change?

P.S - you could just tell me that you dont ever care about anything else then your one opinion that is spamed in every topic and ill just never write something like that again...
you dont have to say stupid stuff about the age just to look smarter - if you want to ban a difference of opinion, its allright with me - just dont hide your censorship behing some dumb age factor like you would really belive that 30 years of working as a pluber gives you any experience in bodybuilding.

Thank you so much for the compliment. I was actually 35 then doing my first show. Wow you really think I look 17. Thanks. As for sitting in a chair and being a plumber. No that's not my profession. I am how ever suprised you know what a plumber is. Is there someone in your village with indoor plumbing? And as for the gyno clearing itself up in a month it must be something in your water. See we have purification processes and floride and such in ours. When you bring the bucket up from the stream is it clear or smell like cow shit? As for censorship here in the states we call it good health. Thanks for the compliment again. Now go milk your goat son

[Shadowmaker]

Thank you so much for the compliment. I was actually 35 then doing my first show. Wow you really think I look 17. Thanks. As for sitting in a chair and being a plumber. No that's not my profession. I am how ever suprised you know what a plumber is. Is there someone in your village with indoor plumbing? And as for the gyno clearing itself up in a month it must be something in your water. See we have purification processes and floride and such in ours. When you bring the bucket up from the stream is it clear or smell like cow shit? As for censorship here in the states we call it good health. Thanks for the compliment again. Now go milk your goat son

personal insults? really?

really?!?!?!

dude with the huge experience and american money - all you can show for it is a skinny dude in a picture that looks like hes been doin some pushups at home for 3 weeks and insults?

you think looking like 17 is a compliment? heres another one - you act like a 5yr old

[Capebuffalo]

personal insults? really?

really?!?!?!

dude with the huge experience and american money - all you can show for it is a skinny dude in a picture that looks like hes been doin some pushups at home for 3 weeks and insults

you think looking like 17 is a compliment? heres another one - you act like a 5yr old

Wir wollen uns ein Bild big man

[Capebuffalo]

experience is measured in the years of active progress... just because you're older doesnt mean that you actually lift and cycle for longer period of time... the dude in your avatar looks like i looked when i was 17... so where exatcly is you huge experience? at home sitting on a chair, writing coments? how about some bodybuilding experience for a change?

P.S - you could just tell me that you dont ever care about anything else then your one opinion that is spamed in every topic and ill just never write something like that again...
you dont have to say stupid stuff about the age just to look smarter - if you want to ban a difference of opinion, its allright with me - just dont hide your censorship behing some dumb age factor like you would really belive that 30 years of working as a pluber gives you any experience in bodybuilding.

Thank you so much for the compliment. I was actually 35 then doing my first show. Wow you really think I lo