Is 9.5 weeks too short for a first cycle test e only?

[Rv8G30]

Vial is 10 weeks 250mg x 2 for 500 a week. Never injected before so I ****ed up with the first injection and had to throw away my first syringe with 250mg in it. So that puts me at 9.5 weeks. Im currently 3 weeks in going good so far. Should I buy another vial and do 12 weeks? Dont care about the $$ just want max results possible. What you guys think? Will the 9.5 weeks be noticeable vs say 12?

[austinite]

Why would you throw the syringe away with gear in it? Replace the needle next time. What exactly happened?

12 weeks is preferred. And if you purchased EXACTLY enough for your cycle, you will be short either way. Always get extra. 9.5 would suck.

[< <Samson> >]

Yes and no

Everyone says to do 12+ weeks of long esters.

I completely plateud in week 9 and had no gains after that whatsoever.


I would personally no go by feel on true length of cycle. Stop when the gains stop or slow down to near nothing.

[Lunk1]

I am guessing from your post you have a 20ML vial of test E so your assumption is that it should equal out perfectly to 10 weeks....it WON"T!

Between whats lost in the pin and what you will NEVER get out of the vial you will be lucky to get 9 weeks out of this and now your down a pin giving you at best 8.5 weeks.

Yes, get another vial and you will have plenty for a solid 12 week cycle that is much better anyhow!

[jasc]

Why would you throw the syringe away with gear in it? Replace the needle next time. What exactly happened?

12 weeks is preferred. And if you purchased EXACTLY enough for your cycle, you will be short either way. Always get extra. 9.5 would suck.

^^^this

always have some extra. most people forget to account for the residual oil in the pin. If you purchase exactly enough for 10 weeks you'd be lucky to get 9 full weeks out of it. Not to mention 10ml vials don't always contain exactly 10ml.

[swollix]

FWIW it's worth my first cycle I did 8 weeks of test e and I gained 13 lbs.

[Lunk1]

FWIW it's worth my first cycle I did 8 weeks of test e and I gained 13 lbs.

Did you increase your calories. Did you change or increase your workout routine while on?

Did you run any other compounds. How much of the 13lbs have you managed to maintain??

[austinite]

FWIW it's worth my first cycle I did 8 weeks of test e and I gained 13 lbs.

And? I can gain 13 lbs in 10 days. You did not gain 13 lbs of muscle.

[Phased]

Wrong thread..Sorry

[stpete]

You could get away w/9.5 if you're positive that's how much you have. I prefer 12 weeks though. I always measure my gear as soon as i get it so i know exactly how much i was short. And odds are, you're short a little.

[songdog]

You should be ok at 9.5 but if it was 9.3 I would say no.LOL Lesson learned always buy more than you need.

[austinite]

You should be ok at 9.5 but if it was 9.3 I would say no.LOL Lesson learned always buy more than you need.

Wrong. It's 9.466 where it's good.

[Lunk1]

Either way after tossing 1ML he op is already too short to even run a decent 9 week cycle. Be lucky to get 8.5 weeks. The op is asking to get max results and made it clear he is able to get another vial. The answer is YES b uy the other vial and do a solid 12 week cycle for the BEST results!

[gixxerboy1]

Either way after tossing 1ML he op is already too short to even run a decent 9 week cycle. Be lucky to get 8.5 weeks. The op is asking to get max results and made it clear he is able to get another vial. The answer is YES b uy the other vial and do a solid 12 week cycle for the BEST results!

i agree. If you lost 1ml already and you DO loose some each pin, so you wont make 9 weeks. I would grab another vial and do 12 weeks

[swollix]

Did you increase your calories. Did you change or increase your workout routine while on?

Did you run any other compounds. How much of the 13lbs have you managed to maintain??

10 lbs. I went from 170 to 183. After PCT I was right around 179/180. This was end of last summer. Since then I have bulked to 190 naturally, I am on week 5 ofa test e/deca cycle currently and I weigh 200 now.

[swollix]

And? I can gain 13 lbs in 10 days. You did not gain 13 lbs of muscle.

Who said I gained 13 pounds of straight muscle?

[Lunk1]

10 lbs. I went from 170 to 183. This was end of last summer. Since then I have bulked to 190 naturally, I am on a test e/deca cycle and I weigh 200 now.

That doesn't answer my questionS. Like Austin said I would highly doubt that the weight gain can be attributed to the gear. Most likely diet and workout increase more than the gear. You have to consider that the effects from the long ester are not really noticable for the first 4 weeks or so. That means that you really end up shutting this cycle down as the best was yet to come. Either way congrats on the 10lbs.

[swollix]

That doesn't answer my questionS. Like Austin said I would highly doubt that the weight gain can be attributed to the gear. Most likely diet and workout increase more than the gear. You have to consider that the effects from the long ester are not really noticable for the first 4 weeks or so. That means that you really end up shutting this cycle down as the best was yet to come. Either way congrats on the 10lbs.

Yes I increased food intake. I stacked with dbol for first 4 weeks. I would never have made that much progress naturally because in the year after that cycle I have gone from 180 to 190 naturally. Here is before and after pics of last cycle:

before


after




and a recent pic at 200:

[austinite]

Who said I gained 13 pounds of straight muscle?

Ok. I guess I just dont see the point of saying that......

[Phased]

Hey Swol, your looking great man, keep up whatever it is your doing cause its working.

[swollix]

Hey Swol, your looking great man, keep up whatever it is your doing cause its working.

thanks buddy, i'm definitely going to have to cut after this cycle. I miss my abs!

[Phased]

thanks buddy, i'm definitely going to have to cut after this cycle. I miss my abs!

Abs are hard to keep when bulking, even for me. You just have to come to terms with it, I think you will be fine. I cant see that much of your legs but I would bet on you that if you worked on them a bit you could easily add another 5-10lbs of muscle weight. Try getting them up to size before you cut, it would be worth it since you are in a bulking phase. Keep us updated, Im interested in your further progress.

[swollix]

Abs are hard to keep when bulking, even for me. You just have to come to terms with it, I think you will be fine. I cant see that much of your legs but I would bet on you that if you worked on them a bit you could easily add another 5-10lbs of muscle weight. Try getting them up to size before you cut, it would be worth it since you are in a bulking phase. Keep us updated, Im interested in your further progress.

legs are decent, measure 25" cold. lots of new stretch marks haha.

[Lunk1]

thanks buddy, i'm definitely going to have to cut after this cycle. I miss my abs!

So I am supposed to believe that transformation occured in an 8 week test cycle?

That might be a starting pic and you now but that was not in 8 weeks with a low dose test cycle.....

Don't get me wrong you look GREAT man...just don't want ppl thinking thats what happens in 8 weeks

[Phased]

legs are decent, measure 25" cold. lots of new stretch marks haha.

Well hey you continue to surprise me, looking good nice job, keep it up! Are you interested on competitive bodybuilding or just recreational?

[swollix]

Well hey you continue to surprise me, looking good nice job, keep it up! Are you interested on competitive bodybuilding or just recreational?

I just wanna be big, as long as I still look skinny to myself I'll keep gaining. I started working out at 110 lbs. in highschool, I was 145 senior year. I have come a long way! this is what I looked like around 140:

[Phased]

I just wanna be big, as long as I still look skinny to myself I'll keep gaining. I started working out at 110 lbs. in highschool, I was 145 senior year. I have come a long way! this is what I looked like around 140:

Wow even more impressed Swol, First I have to say great genetics, absolutely amazing. Even at 140 you could pass for 160-170 and I would not even second guess it. Keep up the good work. This is exactly how ronnie started, hopefully the picture shows up, just wanted you to see what someone can accomplish

[Lunk1]

Wow even more impressed Swol, First I have to say great genetics, absolutely amazing. Even at 140 you could pass for 160-170 and I would not even second guess it. Keep up the good work. This is exactly how ronnie started, hopefully the picture shows up, just wanted you to see what someone can accomplish

And enough juice to kill a Bull lol

[swollix]

maybe from that pic lol. I was tiny! my younger brother got all the muscle building genes and his transformation from fat to muscular is much more impressive! He was 245 lbs. at 6'2" at 19 years old while I weighed 100 lbs. less than him at the time and two years older...

[Rv8G30]

Thanks for the info. Ill pick up another vial. I know I can get it, but not sure how long. Hopefully in time.

[Lunk1]

Thanks for the info. Ill pick up another vial. I know I can get it, but not sure how long. Hopefully in time.

Normally I would never suggest this but if you are confident you can get it you have 8 weeks of the other to start...not really a good practice to start without everything in hand normally.

[swollix]

Thanks for the info. Ill pick up another vial. I know I can get it, but not sure how long. Hopefully in time.

don't start the cycle til you have everything in hand, juice,ai,pct,pins...

[Bulkn]

even 8 weeks of test e woulnt be bad, but i wouldnt do any less

[Lunk1]

don't start the cycle til you have everything in hand, juice,ai,pct,pins...

This is the safest advise...

[Lunk1]

even 8 weeks of test e woulnt be bad, but i wouldnt do any less

You do realise op is talking about Test E right???

[Bulkn]

You do realise op is talking about Test E right???

Yeah.. For most people gains are minimal after 8 weeks. I think 10 is ideal but you can still make good gains from 8 weeks and keeping it shorter opposed to say 12 weeks helps with a quicker recovery.

[Lunk1]

Yeah.. For most people gains are minimal after 8 weeks. I think 10 is ideal but you can still make good gains from 8 weeks and keeping it shorter opposed to say 12 weeks helps with a quicker recovery.

See noe I personaly feel like my best gains are 8-10 and would never cut short of ten but 12 is still best imo.

[Rv8G30]

don't start the cycle til you have everything in hand, juice,ai,pct,pins...

I already started. I have one 10 week vial, pins, pct, ai, ect. Everything is on hand. Just decided to extend to 12 weeks so i just need possibly more of everything. If i dont get it in time no harm will just stop at 8 or 9 weeks like originally planned.

[swollix]

I already started. I have one 10 week vial, pins, pct, ai, ect. Everything is on hand. Just decided to extend to 12 weeks so i just need possibly more of everything. If i dont get it in time no harm will just stop at 8 or 9 weeks like originally planned.

Good to go then!

[gixxerboy1]

I already started. I have one 10 week vial, pins, pct, ai, ect. Everything is on hand. Just decided to extend to 12 weeks so i just need possibly more of everything. If i dont get it in time no harm will just stop at 8 or 9 weeks like originally planned.

i assume you have a 20ml vial then? Also you waste a little each injection in the pin. so every injection you actually use like 1.15 ml. so you never get the full 10 weeks out vial