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    First Cycle - Sus250 and Deca 100 - possibly 20 weeks

    Hi guys,

    Ive just joined here to get some opinions on what my cycle plan is, so here it goes:

    Week 1-5 (500mg per week):
    Sus 250 - 1ml Mon and 1ml Thur

    Week 6-15 (700mg per week):
    Sus 250 - 1ml Mon and 1ml Thur
    Deca 100 - 1ml Mon and 1ml Thur

    Week 16-20 (500mg per week):
    Sus 250 - 1ml Mon and 1ml Thur

    Im currently at week 4, and will be pinning tomorrow to complete the fourth week.

    Im getting my bottles as i go, so i can change the plan as i see fit.

    My PCT is going to be Novaldex, which i also have a supply of.

    My questions are:

    a) is it out of the norm to run a 20 week cycle as above for the first time?
    b) what are your thoughts on ditching the last 5 weeks and ending my cycle at week 15?


    Cheers

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    You really need to stop what your doing and read up.
    The fact you started this cycle then ask if its ok shows lack of knowledge.
    As for tapering up then down that's a very old school way of running things.
    You've not mentioned a AI and just nolva for pct isn't enough .
    Your dosages are far to high for a first cycle aswell.

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    The cycle isnt planned out correctly, infact its awful

    What are your stats?
    How long have you been training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    The cycle isnt planned out correctly, infact its awful

    What are your stats?
    How long have you been training?
    35 years old
    182cm
    97kg

    Training for 3 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by edsaf View Post
    Hi guys,

    Ive just joined here to get some opinions on what my cycle plan is, so here it goes:

    Week 1-5 (500mg per week):
    Sus 250 - 1ml Mon and 1ml Thur

    Week 6-15 (700mg per week):
    Sus 250 - 1ml Mon and 1ml Thur
    Deca 100 - 1ml Mon and 1ml Thur

    Week 16-20 (500mg per week):
    Sus 250 - 1ml Mon and 1ml Thur

    Im currently at week 4, and will be pinning tomorrow to complete the fourth week.

    Im getting my bottles as i go, so i can change the plan as i see fit.

    My PCT is going to be Novaldex, which i also have a supply of.

    My questions are:

    a) is it out of the norm to run a 20 week cycle as above for the first time?
    b) what are your thoughts on ditching the last 5 weeks and ending my cycle at week 15?


    Cheers

    PCT's inadequate and no mention of an AI or HCG . You'll need those as well for your cycle along w/Clomid to compliment your Nolva. You can hit the PCT Forum to check on these compounds.

    You'd do better to just run a nice test cycle for 12 weeks. No need to ramp the dosage as 500mgs a week will be just fine. Of course diet and training will dictate much of your gains.

    Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    PCT's inadequate and no mention of an AI or HCG . You'll need those as well for your cycle along w/Clomid to compliment your Nolva. You can hit the PCT Forum to check on these compounds.

    You'd do better to just run a nice test cycle for 12 weeks. No need to ramp the dosage as 500mgs a week will be just fine. Of course diet and training will dictate much of your gains.

    Good Luck
    Thanks stpete,

    I haven't bought the Deca yet so ill stick with Sus250 for a 12 week cycle ( 8 more weeks)

    Im about to buy some arimidex and will start taking 0.5mg eod from when it arrives until my last jab.

    And will start PCT 7 days after last jab with noveldex and clomid (if i can get my hands on it, otherwise novaldex only)

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    Here you go. You can get clomidex now: http://www.ar-r.com/clomi-70ml-35mg-ml.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by edsaf

    Thanks stpete,

    I haven't bought the Deca yet so ill stick with Sus250 for a 12 week cycle ( 8 more weeks)

    Im about to buy some arimidex and will start taking 0.5mg eod from when it arrives until my last jab.

    And will start PCT 7 days after last jab with noveldex and clomid (if i can get my hands on it, otherwise novaldex only)
    Start armidex at .25 eod to start. Adjust as needed
    Novladex is not sufficient alone as a pct. Clomid needs to be added.
    This is a dumb thing to start then figure out. I hope you don't have trouble because of your poor planning.
    What is your TDEE?

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    [QUOTE=warmouth;6277400]Here you go. You can get clomidex now: [had to remove URL]

    Thanks, looks like they also sell liquid version of an Arimidex alternative called Letro

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    NO! Liquidex is Armidex. Letro is good to have on hand, but only if it is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    NO! Liquidex is Armidex. Letro is good to have on hand, but only if it is needed.
    Ah yes, sweet as. Cheers.

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