Body - not hulk

[cgozz]

75 grams of protein is no where sufficient for your size. I am a pt director at a pretty big gym.
You need at least 1.5 grams per body lb for quality gains and that's eating clean protein. Your trainer is way off.

[auswest]

My trainer setup my protein ratio for me he was an expert,

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[Aliusman]

I appreciate the suggestion from you guys to not to use it but why not? I have taken my body to the max, I could have used steroids at 22 but I didn't. At that time friends in gym was using it, I could have made good sources but I didn't as I wanted to take my body to the max, now I m turning 29 this year and I think it's a good time to use it, also when I was 22 I seen guys using steroids after even couple of months in gym and they got good results, I started gym at 16, a friend of mine never seen in his life and he went gym for 2 months and after 2 months when I seen him he was with a very nice body, I value the opinion but guys I am ready for steroids.

[gixxerboy1]

Because your not near the max or even close. The results you want can be easy naturally if u fix whats wrong. Your diet. If u dont ur going to look the same once u stop. It doesnt matter if you have been trying for a long time if u have been doing it wrong

[kelkel]

Based on the knowledge your presenting here you have not taken your body to the max. If your thinking the nutrition protocol you are on is adequate I can only imagine your training. I'm not trying to offend here, just to open your eyes. Your hearing from many vets who have been in your shoes and have the knowledge, skill and abilities to guide you. LISTEN to them please! You can make great progress if you just hit the nutrition forum here and asked for advice with your diet! Great guys there willing to help!

X2 on your trainer not being that sharp. Love to see a picture of him!

[evander87]

I have taken my body to the max

Not with 75g of protein a day.

Are you here for information or validation? You've been given good info. If you're looking for validation answer this question, what builds muscle?

If you answer steroids you're wrong.
Food is what builds muscle. AAS just helps your body do it better. Even if you juice now what do you think is going to happen when you come off? Or are you planning on staying on the rest of your life?

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[Bio-Active]

Morning Breakfast:
3 fried eggs, 3 toasts with peanut butter, a glass of milk

10:00 - 4 bananas and yogurt (300ml)

11:00 - protein shake in slim milk

12:00-12:30 - lunch
More then Half chicken, salad,

2:00 - freshly squeezed juice, apple, mango, strawberries, pineapple

3:30 - a yogurt to fill me up

5:00 - A sandwich with beef petty

7:30 - protein shake after gym

8:30- dinner, two beef steaks with veggies

Last night I did not but some nights I also have CASEIN,

Cheers

^^^ This is the issue. Your diet needs work

[Aliusman]

^^^ This is the issue. Your diet needs work

You serious guys I eat lots of food, do u think this is less for a day

[MuscleInk]

You serious guys I eat lots of food, do u think this is less for a day

What's your TDEE and total calories you eat daily?

[DigitalGorilla]

So many people come on here - ask a question - and refuse to listen.

Everyone is right brother - your diet is not correct. Now - im much bigger than you so I need more protien but for me - I need to stay above 200 grams ED -- so unless you weight a buck 20 - you are not getting enough at 75!

[Aliusman]

So many people come on here - ask a question - and refuse to listen.

Everyone is right brother - your diet is not correct. Now - im much bigger than you so I need more protien but for me - I need to stay above 200 grams ED -- so unless you weight a buck 20 - you are not getting enough at 75!

But I can fix this , I can have more protein, I can fix my diet, why I can't go on cycle to archive quick results?

[Aliusman]

Can any one answer my this question please? I have asked this many time in this thread but no answer.

How a guy who had never done gym in his life, a month after starting gym he goes on cycle at the age of 26 and in next 2 months he gets the amazing body?

I have seen this from my own eyes.

Anyone wanna answer this and explain this to me?

[auswest]

An amazing body is not built in 2 months, end of story, the point of you taking steroids is near on useless, you have clearly shown you have no idea how to build and maintain muscle at a very simple level..
If getting a good body means so much to you, stop wasting your time and start reading and learning..

[Aliusman]

An amazing body is not built in 2 months, end of story, the point of you taking steroids is near on useless, you have clearly shown you have no idea how to build and maintain muscle at a very simple level..
If getting a good body means so much to you, stop wasting your time and start reading and learning..

I seem people getting bodies in 2 months bro

[MuscleInk]

I seem people getting bodies in 2 months bro

Water weight bro.....or they are starving themselves to drop weight rapidly.

[panntastic]

I seem people getting bodies in 2 months bro

You only see the external effects of a new gym member using steroids .
You don't see the inside where their ligaments are straining because of all the extra weight and pressure being exerted on them.
You want a quick fix but there is NO QUICK FIX.
Just hold off and watch this person who has a great body and see where they are in 6-8 months.
I bet you they will look worse than before they started at the gym!
Stay true to your own path and don't be influenced by others around you and what they look like.
I'm 238lbs and 17-18% bodyfat and I'm the smallest person in my gym.
This doesn't bother me as I know most of the lads are steroid abusers and train and eat like crap.

[HeadAndArm]

You lost me at twilight....

This. I also think you can get that type of physique without drugs.

[evander87]

I seem people getting bodies in 2 months bro

Why aren't you asking them what they're doing?



I asked you two simple questions that would give you the answer to why you shouldn't cycle. Where do you think muscles come from? Answer, food. And while you might blow up a bit on cycle what do you think will happen once you stop aas? You'll shrink right back down to where you started if your diet isnt in check.

[Aliusman]

Water weight bro.....or they are starving themselves to drop weight rapidly.

But I m not over weight and I don't need to drop weight

[Aliusman]

You only see the external effects of a new gym member using steroids .
You don't see the inside where their ligaments are straining because of all the extra weight and pressure being exerted on them.
You want a quick fix but there is NO QUICK FIX.
Just hold off and watch this person who has a great body and see where they are in 6-8 months.
I bet you they will look worse than before they started at the gym!
Stay true to your own path and don't be influenced by others around you and what they look like.
I'm 238lbs and 17-18% bodyfat and I'm the smallest person in my gym.
This doesn't bother me as I know most of the lads are steroid abusers and train and eat like crap.

But I will keep exercising and I will keep my duet good after getting off from cycle

[Aliusman]

This. I also think you can get that type of physique without drugs.

Dude that was just an example

[Aliusman]

Why aren't you asking them what they're doing?

I asked you two simple questions that would give you the answer to why you shouldn't cycle. Where do you think muscles come from? Answer, food. And while you might blow up a bit on cycle what do you think will happen once you stop aas? You'll shrink right back down to where you started if your diet isnt in check.

I will keep my food good and clean

[gixxerboy1]

But I m not over weight and I don't need to drop weight

your bf is higher then it should be and your lbm is low. Those are just facts

But I will keep exercising and I will keep my duet good after getting off from cycle

your diet is not good now and judging from your post you dont know what a good diet it. Learn that, follow that diet and you will get the results with out the steroids .

[PEWN]

You lost me at twilight....

This.... How can one be taken seriously after posting that.

[Bio-Active]

But I will keep exercising and I will keep my duet good after getting off from cycle

If your bf is 18% than you are over weight. I am not flaming you. Just saying that is to high to be cycling. Most would say to get down to 15% before running a cycle but in my opinion it would be better to be at 12% or lower

[Aliusman]

If your bf is 18% than you are over weight. I am not flaming you. Just saying that is to high to be cycling. Most would say to get down to 15% before running a cycle but in my opinion it would be better to be at 12% or lower

Thanks Jim but if I could go 12% I would have done that before, after intense straight training and everything I m unable to go 12% bf. do people bit fat can't use steroids to lose fat and build muscles?

[Aliusman]

This.... How can one be taken seriously after posting that.

The question is serious, the way I asked was funny :/

[evander87]

Thanks Jim but if I could go 12% I would have done that before, after intense straight training and everything I m unable to go 12% bf.

That's because your diet sucks!

Jesus man that's what everybody has been telling you. Why aren't you getting it?

[gixxerboy1]

Thanks Jim but if I could go 12% I would have done that before, after intense straight training and everything I m unable to go 12% bf. do people bit fat can't use steroids to lose fat and build muscles?

Your unable because your diet is complete shit. Your diet dictates everything.

[MickeyKnox]

I appreciate the suggestion from you guys to not to use it but why not? I have taken my body to the max, I could have used steroids at 22 but I didn't. At that time friends in gym was using it, I could have made good sources but I didn't as I wanted to take my body to the max, now I m turning 29 this year and I think it's a good time to use it, also when I was 22 I seen guys using steroids after even couple of months in gym and they got good results, I started gym at 16, a friend of mine never seen in his life and he went gym for 2 months and after 2 months when I seen him he was with a very nice body, I value the opinion but guys I am ready for steroids.

You serious guys I eat lots of food, do u think this is less for a day

But I can fix this , I can have more protein, I can fix my diet, why I can't go on cycle to archive quick results?

Can any one answer my this question please? I have asked this many time in this thread but no answer.

How a guy who had never done gym in his life, a month after starting gym he goes on cycle at the age of 26 and in next 2 months he gets the amazing body?

I have seen this from my own eyes.

Anyone wanna answer this and explain this to me?

I seem people getting bodies in 2 months bro

But I m not over weight and I don't need to drop weight

But I will keep exercising and I will keep my duet good after getting off from cycle

Dude that was just an example

Thanks Jim but if I could go 12% I would have done that before, after intense straight training and everything I m unable to go 12% bf. do people bit fat can't use steroids to lose fat and build muscles?

Then just fvcking do it your way and stop refuting everyone advice!!

[MuscleInk]

Then just fvcking do it your way and stop refuting everyone advice!!

Geesh.....now you made one of the nicest guys here mad!!! Way to go OP!!!!!

[Bio-Active]

Geesh.....now you made one of the nicest guys here mad!!! Way to go OP!!!!!

This is getting out of control

[MuscleInk]

This is getting out of control

Understandable Jim, when reputable members offer sound advice and the responses are "but my friend", "but this guy I know", "but, but, but........".

It all comes down to this: OP, take the advice or leave it. Make your own decision now that you have heard from several knowledgable members. If you go against the good advice and something goes wrong, don't come back here bitching and groaning about how bad things have gotten.

I don't get these guys. They come here voluntarily looking for help but when the advice goes against what they expected to hear, they argue and offer anecdotal references that don't mean a damn thing!

[Bio-Active]

Understandable Jim, when reputable members offer sound advice and the responses are "but my friend", "but this guy I know", "but, but, but........".

It all comes down to this: OP, take the advice or leave it. Make your own decision now that you have heard from several knowledgable members. If you go against the good advice and something goes wrong, don't come back here bitching and groaning about how bad things have gotten.

I don't get these guys. They come here voluntarily looking for help but when the advice goes against what they expected to hear, they argue and offer anecdotal references that don't mean a damn thing!

They just don't understand the years of hard work that have to be put in to diet and training to be in the kind of shape that they desire. Steroids are only the icing on the cake. Short cuts don't work!

[sc2only]

Take out your sugars and Add 2 meals of greens/brown rice or pasta/steak or chicken. And add like 4 more eggs to breakfast. And eat 6 whole eggs before bed. Than its a start.

[kelkel]

Take out your sugars and Add 2 meals of greens/brown rice or pasta/steak or chicken. And add like 4 more eggs to breakfast. And eat 6 whole eggs before bed. Than its a start.

Oh! Just made me hungry. Meal 7 coming up!

[Aliusman]

Guys I understand and sorry if make yous mad, ask I said I will fix my diet then why I can't use juice? I will fix diet, I m a regular gym person, I m physically capable, I did kickboxing, spent years in gym. Come on guys

[gixxerboy1]

Guys I understand and sorry if make yous mad, ask I said I will fix my diet then why I can't use juice? I will fix diet, I m a regular gym person, I m physically capable, I did kickboxing, spent years in gym. Come on guys

Because ur still not ready. Your bf is high and u have low muscle mass. Fix ur diet and train right and get in better shape first.

[Aliusman]

Because ur still not ready. Your bf is high and u have low muscle mass. Fix ur diet and train right and get in better shape first.

What's the point of using gear if I had too do it myself ?? And I said of I couldn't do it in years I won't be able to do it next 10 years, by eating more i will get more fat if I m not on the juice

[gixxerboy1]

What's the point of using gear if I had too do it myself ?? And I said of I couldn't do it in years I won't be able to do it next 10 years, by eating more i will get more fat if I m not on the juice

Yes u can if u do it right. The problem is your doung it wrong. Steriods arent magic.
Fvcking bananas isnt a diet to get in good shape. You might as welk be eating 3 candy bars for lunch.
Know what run ur cycle, im done you know more then everyone else and while ur at it give ur trainer a raise too.
My wife carries more lean body mass then u. Then again she knows how to eat properly, oh and she didn't need steriods, but i guess ur genetics are worse then a girls