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    1st Cycle help

    So first off my apps is messed up and only lets me post in small segments so bear with me.

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    Stats?

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    How to Write a Post That Gets Your Questions Answered

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    Ok so thats only true for the first post! So here it goes. My stats are 6'0 235lbs about 10%bf. I have a very clean diet.
    Breakfast= 1 cup uncooked oats, 12 eggs only 3 yolks, some type of fruit and morning supps.
    10:30- a shake
    Lunch= always brown rice, and some kind of meat either chicken, lean ground beef, ground pork or turkey, broccoli
    Pre training- around 4 depending on the day like leg day i like oats or whole grain pasta with a meat
    Dinner= brown rice, meat, vegtable
    I also snack of granola almonds all that good stuff.

    I have used many PH with good results always with a little liver support and pct just to stay in check. Always hood results but as with any ph you lose alot of the results.

    So now i am looking to go to the next level with my training and AAS is my next step.

    Now please dont blast me or anything i am just looking for constructive critisism.

    First cycle-

    Test-e 250 twice a week for 9 weeks
    Clomid for gyno- not sure on the dosage for this
    Nolvadex - 40mg and the 20mg for pct

    Test-e is what i have available. Please let me know anything else i need dosage etc. thanks!

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    Age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
    Age?
    Turned 25 in January.

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    Oh yea and i have been training solid for 3 or so years. Wish it could be more but with school i couldn't afford it! Mainly the grocery bill! Yikes!

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    I'd recommend going on test E for 12 weeks since it's a long ester...Also could you be a little more specifiq on PCT? And what about anti-estrogen (ex:arimidex )? Also, including HCG would be a pretty good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardworkworks View Post
    Turned 25 in January.
    If you had a difficult time paying the grocery bills before, youre in for a rude wakening my friend.

    Start here..

    **Most Common Beginners Cycles**

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    I mean with all my other bills and no job it was. But now i am a trainer on the side and have a full time job and have plenty of extra money. So while we are talking about money what would be an estimate on how much this cycle may cost?

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    a cycle could cost 900 or 20 bucks. Depends on your source.

    You are going to be spending all your money on food. 50 grams of grilled chicken 6 times a day adds up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardworkworks View Post
    I mean with all my other bills and no job it was. But now i am a trainer on the side and have a full time job and have plenty of extra money. So while we are talking about money what would be an estimate on how much this cycle may cost?
    We dont discuss prices of AAS here.

    And your grocery bill will be determined by the diet you chose. But it can rise approx 30% or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    We dont discuss prices of AAS here.

    And your grocery bill will be determined by the diet you chose. But it can rise approx 30% or more.
    My apologies wasnt sure but now i know and no i intend on the same diet it pretty good (part of what i studied)

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    Why would he need arimidex if he has nolva? Why does everyone push AI on cycles, if you aren't experiencing any negative sides what the hell is the point in running an AI? Just for fun ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj111 View Post
    Why would he need arimidex if he has nolva? Why does everyone push AI on cycles, if you aren't experiencing any negative sides what the hell is the point in running an AI? Just for fun ?
    Why It's Important To Run An AI

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    Thanks for all the help now i need to sit down and figure this put on paper cause in here its hard to see from weeks to week dosages etc. big thanks!

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    So using nolvadex for pct at 40mg then 20 mg is good?

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    Keep reading until you have every minute detail worked out. And then read some more

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven
    Keep reading until you have every minute detail worked out. And then read some more
    Yea i have actually been reading on it for about a year i was just waiting until 25 to be safe. Going to get it all down. But i do have a question when people write (ex.50/50/25/25) what does that translate to in weeks or per day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardworkworks View Post
    Yea i have actually been reading on it for about a year i was just waiting until 25 to be safe. Going to get it all down. But i do have a question when people write (ex.50/50/25/25) what does that translate to in weeks or per day?
    Usually weeks. Good job waiting it out, you're better off than a lot of other guys on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfootseven
    Usually weeks. Good job waiting it out, you're better off than a lot of other guys on here
    Yea ive seen kids 17 18 19 and i mean it was on my mind but i was building muscle like it was noones business! Just foolish

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    Is running hcg really need i see it recomended sometimes but not always?

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    Test-e 250 every 3.5days for sure! Next i am figuring put nolva and clomid

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    Week 14 start pct clomid= 75/50/50/50 nolva=40/40/20/20

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    So heres what i plan on starting in april.

    Week 1-12 Test-e 250 every 3.5d
    Week 1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
    Week 14-18 Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardworkworks View Post
    So heres what i plan on starting in april.

    Week 1-12 Test-e 250 every 3.5d
    Week 1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
    Week 14-18 Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20
    I plan to do a very similar one soon. Also my first, will use hcg if I can find a legit source.

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