Exemestane-The Underdosed AI

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[OverTraineD]

Jimmy-
So the optimal times to use Aromasin would be 12.5mg at 8am and 12.5mg at 8pm? Just want to make sure I do this correctly in the future. I was going to take the full 25mg dose in the AM, but if you could clarify, I'd appreciate it...

I'd also like to know the answer to this. I'm going to take this dose when I start my cycle and will have blood work done at mid-cycle.

[OdinsOtherSon]

So I just saw another log with bloodowrk that supports this position re: stane/ The user is taking 375mgs test and 25 mg stane/day. After a pm I found he is taking it in one dose. His e2 is 74. The stane is obviously working however I think it would be working better if it was split into 2 12.5mg doses. At any rate I think we will see more and more that stane is being under dosed. Another log that definitely supports the position.

I'd also like to know the answer to this. I'm going to take this dose when I start my cycle and will have blood work done at mid-cycle.

Red...

[OverTraineD]

I was asking about how much time you should have between doses, 8 hrs or maybe 12 hrs. I'm probably overthinking it but just thought I'd ask.

[jimmyinkedup]

I was asking about how much time you should have between doses, 8 hrs or maybe 12 hrs. I'm probably overthinking it but just thought I'd ask.

10 hrs but as you said I dont see it making much difference.

[jimmyinkedup]

Sorru for delas in replying guys. I hav been unavail. I apologize, I wasnt ignoring posts or questions.

[OverTraineD]

Good to know!! I'll be starting my cycle in about 2 months and will get blood work done before and about 5 weeks into my cycle, maybe earlier if I start having sides.

[lstbred]

Jimmy, great post! and is the last key to my cycle (if I needed more stane or not) My question is, on my first cycle I didnt run an IA at first, then about 7w or so I started to get tender, not pain, lumps or anything, just once in awhile if bumped or something it could get annoying (dont even know if it WAS gyno) so I decided to/ and did add it anyway. I'm not that prone (so far) to gyno so would you suggest still running 25mg/d? it still seems to be benificial for other things than just gyno. I dont know if this makes sense but I think you understand.

[lightweight11]

Awesome post. I tried aromasin for an AI on my last cycle @ 12.5 mgs eod and couldn't figure out why the sides started to slowly creep up on me towards the end of the cycle. I am glad between yourself and Mickey that some light has been shed on this. Thank you.

Same thing happened to me on my last cycle. I was running test e with a prop kick and taking stane 12.5 eod. For the first 5 - 6 weeks of the cycle things were fine and my libido was high. Then towards the end my libido was super low and I had ED.

im about to start another cycle and im going to try 12.5mg 2x a day w fats. Ill make it easy and do one dose in am one pm.

[jimmyinkedup]

Jimmy, great post! and is the last key to my cycle (if I needed more stane or not) My question is, on my first cycle I didnt run an IA at first, then about 7w or so I started to get tender, not pain, lumps or anything, just once in awhile if bumped or something it could get annoying (dont even know if it WAS gyno) so I decided to/ and did add it anyway. I'm not that prone (so far) to gyno so would you suggest still running 25mg/d? it still seems to be benificial for other things than just gyno. I dont know if this makes sense but I think you understand.

In this circumstance i think id start at 12.5mg ed taken with dietary fats and go from there.

[lstbred]

Cool thanks! I'll do that & up the dose if I think that something is going on.

[REBORN52]

I had the same exact issues late in my first cycle. Mickey and I discussed it and I wish I'd had this info at the time...GREAT POST.....

[Narkissos]

Great work Jimmy. :-)

[jimmyinkedup]

Great work Jimmy. :-)

Thanks a lot Nark!
Great to see you as always buddy!

[gymfu]

Yep, I think your right. I don't know if you remember my thread "aromasin doesn't work," I was thinking my problem was the research chemicals but maybe it's the dose.

I'm currently taking 12.5mg/day of pharm stuff this time on 350mg/week of test. I will be getting bloodwork done at the 6 week mark, and will report my findings.

[austinite]

Ttt.

[Rv8G30]

I will also be getting bloodwork at 6 weeks on 12.5mg every day exemestane. Test E will be at 500mg a week.

[DexterMorgan]

I think that 25 is a good dose, cant really go wrong with it. But I'm taking 15mgs ed with 500 test-e and my E2 is lower than it was on pre-cycle blood work results. So i'll stick to 15mgs. My estrogen is under control with 15, so it works great for me.

[lightweight11]

Update - I am 7 weeks in and Ive been running 12.5mg x2 a day (morning/night) of aromasin while taking 800mg of test and my estrogen has been in check. My libido has been high and I wake up every morning like a 15 year old kid. Ive had slow steady dry gains. I will be sticking to this dose from here on out. Ill report back again later in the cycle.

[Xzandr]

Great info. Thanks for the supporting documentation.

[jimmyinkedup]

Update - I am 7 weeks in and Ive been running 12.5mg x2 a day (morning/night) of aromasin while taking 800mg of test and my estrogen has been in check. My libido has been high and I wake up every morning like a 15 year old kid. Ive had slow steady dry gains. I will be sticking to this dose from here on out. Ill report back again later in the cycle.

Excellent. Looking forward to the next follow up!

[Whiteboyy0]

Can anybody vouch for the sponsors liquid stane? It would be much easier to dial in a dose with liquid.

[jimmyinkedup]

Can anybody vouch for the sponsors liquid stane? It would be much easier to dial in a dose with liquid.

Thats what I use and have been using for some time. It is GTG. Ironically I ended up using it because i got bad stane from another rc company and was jammed up and needed some quick. They came through and now get all my business.

[JimAdler]

Great info, glad to have these informative threads to learn from. Thanks! On Test alone what weekly dosage would surpass the 25mg ED dosage? I assume 25 ED would be fine with 500mg, and 12.5 would be insufficient?

[jimmyinkedup]

Great info, glad to have these informative threads to learn from. Thanks! On Test alone what weekly dosage would surpass the 25mg ED dosage? I assume 25 ED would be fine with 500mg, and 12.5 would be insufficient?

There are no definitives as everyone is different however the trend with stane IMO was to low a dosing, to far apart - thus this thread. I think that at 500mgs/test per week one should probably begin to consider 25mg/day in 2-12.5mg doses the potential optimal dose. I think as this is playing out more and more this seems to be becoming the case. As always, blood work really is the key and holds all the answers though.

[JimAdler]

There are no definitives as everyone is different however the trend with stane IMO was to low a dosing, to far apart - thus this thread. I think that at 500mgs/test per week one should probably begin to consider 25mg/day in 2-12.5mg doses the potential optimal dose. I think as this is playing out more and more this seems to be becoming the case. As always, blood work really is the key and holds all the answers though.

Makes sense. Bloods will definitely always show exactly what is going on. And some might complain about having to spend more on their Aromasin but you shouldn't even consider this if money is an issue. Have to play to play

[jimmyinkedup]

Makes sense. Bloods will definitely always show exactly what is going on. And some might complain about having to spend more on their Aromasin but you shouldn't even consider this if money is an issue. Have to play to play

There are other options. It does seem that stane has some benefits that may make the added cost worthwhile to some. This game isnt cheap no matter how you cut it!

[JimAdler]

Agreed on both! I posted a thread on Torem in PCT, wondered if you'd mind putting in your .02 as I have been looking at this for a bit? Thanks bro

[Iron Mind]

Great post, Aromasin seems to me like a good option to use as an AI during a first cycle with something like 350-500mg/EW test.

Could Aromasin be continued to be used during the PCT as 1 AI along with 2 other SERMs (nolva, clomid)? (trying to get things in a logical order for myself ). Should the dose still be 25mg/day during PCT just like during the cycle?

[austinite]

Great post, Aromasin seems to me like a good option to use as an AI during a first cycle with something like 350-500mg/EW test.

Could Aromasin be continued to be used during the PCT as 1 AI along with 2 other SERMs (nolva, clomid)? (trying to get things in a logical order for myself ). Should the dose still be 25mg/day during PCT just like during the cycle?

Not speaking for jmmy, but personally, I would not recommend the use of any AI during PCT. Nolva and clomid will suffice, and hopefully hCG was used on cycle.

[jimmyinkedup]

^^ I agree 100% ..

[dreadnok89]

don't those both estrogen alot?

[austinite]

don't those both estrogen alot?

Both what?

[APM]

I just got my bloodwork back today... I've been taking 25mg of liquid stane from the site sponsor for the duration of my cycle which started roughly 8weeks ago (500mg/week Test C).. My E2 sensitive came back at 303!!

My previous bloodwork I was taking my HRT dose of 200mg Test C/week, and using the same liquid stane at 25mg/day... E2 sensitive last time was 25

So... Being that I upped my test more than double my HRT dose, I think I need to up the stane to 50mg/day.... Anyone have experience with stane at 50mg/day?

[APM]

Double post...

[jimmyinkedup]

I just got my bloodwork back today... I've been taking 25mg of liquid stane from the site sponsor for the duration of my cycle which started roughly 8weeks ago (500mg/week Test C).. My E2 sensitive came back at 303!!

My previous bloodwork I was taking my HRT dose of 200mg Test C/week, and using the same liquid stane at 25mg/day... E2 sensitive last time was 25

So... Being that I upped my test more than double my HRT dose, I think I need to up the stane to 50mg/day.... Anyone have experience with stane at 50mg/day?

Double the test doesn't necessarily equate to double the ai but it will most likely need to be increased and I would not be afraid to run it that high if necessary. My buddy Ryan ran it at 50/day his cycle he just came off of. He is very gyno/estrogen sensitive or prone. High "aromatizer" if you will. His test dose was 750mg/week and ran low dose dbol for entire cycle. He started stane at 25mg/day and about half way through cycle settled in at 50mg/day and it worked out very well for him.His e2 was 29.

[APM]

Double the test doesn't necessarily equate to double the ai but it will most likely need to be increased and I would not be afraid to run it that high if necessary. My buddy Ryan ran it at 50/day his cycle he just came off of. He is very gyno/estrogen sensitive or prone. High "aromatizer" if you will. His test dose was 750mg/week and ran low dose dbol for entire cycle. He started stane at 25mg/day and about half way through cycle settled in at 50mg/day and it worked out very well for him.His e2 was 29.

Thank you for the reply Jimmy. Luckily for me I don't have any issues (anymore) with gyno since my glands are gone, lol... Took me a long time to fine tune my E2 levels, I've only used adex (prescription) in the past. I took a good amount of time off before/during/after my surgery so when I got back to my HRT dosing I figured I'd try stane. Was very happy with the results last bloodwork so I decided to jump back on cycle and continue with it. I went to see my doc specifically to look at E2, as lately I haven't been feeling all that great, slight mood swings, kinda down, and worst of all, a bit of acne starting to show up on my back (I took accutane for five months last summer and have never had a problem since). I can honestly say I've gotten pretty good at being able to understand/listen to my body when things don't seem right, and now a days I can usually answer my own questions as to why I'm feeling a certain way (especially while on cycle).... And in this case it's just as I suspected that my E2 level is waaaaaay high.

I'm gonna bump up my AI dose to 25mg 2x a day (morning and night).. I just switched to Test P about a week ago (400mg/week). I plan on doing BW again in 4/5 weeks, so ill def report back.

Thanks again Jimmy for a great informative thread!

[TestAce]

Thanks Jimmy, I think this deserves a bump. Just more evidence to suggest that Aromasin is the best AI that you can run.

[devil-1986]

hi great jimmy . i have a question about exemstane , i'm currently on cycle week 2 , and don't run ai just yet my cycle is 100 mg test -p eod (~350 mg weekly/total) for this dosage what exemstane dosages is good and best for me as you suggestion ?

[jdpeters]

I'd say 25mg would be fine