minor gyno, 4 weeks in what course of action.

**masso** · 09-06-2013, 12:04 AM

After one of my heavier cycles I contracted minor gyno under my left nipple. It became apparent a few weeks after the cycle. I went to doctors/specialist etc, got blood work done etc etc.

I was told it was minor grade 1 gyno, I was told to come back in a few months for a re check.

During That 3 months I did a short var cycle and funnily enough the gyno disappeared, Idk if it was the var or whether it naturally subsided.

Anyway the tissue has re formed under my left nipple I just realised today as in the morn my singlet rubbing on my nipples was slightly irritating lol. What would be the best course from now on.

Currently I am on 600mg of cypionate which I front loaded, in 2 weeks I will be switching to sus250, I am running var also.

Currently I have nolvadex and letro and next week I will have armidex.

Would running a small amount of letro until I get my adex in be the way to go. Eg E3D or use 10mg nolva ED till I get the adex.

If so how much letro, the letro is liquid.

Once I get the adex I plan on doing. 25ed

Does this sound like the right course.

I have never used anti e during my cycles but now it looks like it's something I need to be on top of.

Thanks in advance, you guys are all helpful.

Cheers

**austinite** · 09-06-2013, 12:08 AM

Letrozole is a poor choice. Two articles included for review below...

Nolvadex is effective for gynecomastia reversal. Raloxifene, however, is the superior compound today. Protocols included in the links below:

No More Letro for Gyno!

Stop Using Aromatase Inhibitors to Reverse gynecomastia! SERM's Only!

Best of luck to you.

**Java Man** · 09-06-2013, 12:11 AM

Var is dht derived if I'm not mistaken. I'm assuming you didn't run test with it. This is an educated guess but dht coupled with no added test means you shut down and there was no test in your body to aromatize, thus your breast tissue atrophied.

I'll let the experts answer on how best to treat it under normal circumstances. I'm not prone to gyno so I'm no expert. Gl.

**calstate23** · 09-06-2013, 12:12 AM

Sounds like you had some estro rebound your last cycle...Did you use AI on cycle and what did you use for PCT?

And you already started this cycle with no AI so that's why it popped up again...

**masso** · 09-06-2013, 12:35 AM

Java man you are correct.

Pct for the cycle was nolva. Thst last cycle which gave me the gyno was over a year ago now, and honestly I didn't follow through whole pct properly due to circumstances.

Yea i started without a.i but taking care of it now.

So what would the more experienced recommend.

**masso** · 09-06-2013, 12:43 AM

Oh I have never used a.i before in any cycles.

How much letro would you use and when I get the armidex is. .25 Ed correct dose for 600mg test?

I'm not sure I want to use nolva every day during cycle rather try an a.i

**austinite** · 09-06-2013, 12:48 AM

If you're taking this seriously, why not take a moment a read the links I've provided?

**masso** · 09-06-2013, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

If you're taking this seriously, why not take a moment a read the links I've provided?

Yes I will read through when I get home on the pc.

Thing is I don't have access to rexofine (sorry I know it's probably spelt wrong)

As I said I only have the letro, nolva and adex next week. I need to know how to best use these to help the situation.

Thank you for the link I'm mobile atm will def read later on.

Thanks

**calstate23** · 09-06-2013, 01:05 AM

People need to realize AI stops the conversion of androgens into estrogen...Thus, keeping estro from getting high...

But if you ALREADY have high estro and it's already taking effect on certain tissue AKA (Breast Tissue) then all AI will do is start to lower estro by stopping conversion..

Nolva on the other hand, blocks estrogens effect on breast tissue...

Meaning if someone were to take nolva on cycle it is not going to STOP the conversion of androgens into estrogen AKA estro will still be high...But it WILL block its effects...

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**Java Man** · 09-06-2013, 01:13 AM

If youre on a cycle and already have gyno you should be running an AI to control aromatization and a SERM to block it from binding with breast tissue.

**masso** · 09-06-2013, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Java Man

If youre on a cycle and already have gyno you should be running an AI to control aromatization and a SERM to block it from binding with breast tissue.

So nolva 10mg armidex.25 ED

I have heard varying reports on nolva hampering gains.

Doesn't look like anyone so far thinks using letro till my adex arrives is a good thing..

**Euroholic** · 09-06-2013, 02:32 AM

Just get the surgery

**masso** · 09-06-2013, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Just get the surgery

Lol, it ain't that bad man.

**Java Man** · 09-06-2013, 03:14 AM

Austinite has been very busy updating the sticky threads lately. Dude is a wizard. Read his links. I don't have any experience with letro or adex.

I've only used examestane / aromasin as an ai. There's more info on all of them in the ai section. Never heard of or had a problem with nolva hampering gains.

**masso** · 09-06-2013, 04:23 AM

Thanks man ill read That section.

Cheers

**calstate23** · 09-06-2013, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by masso

So nolva 10mg armidex.25 ED

I have heard varying reports on nolva hampering gains.

Doesn't look like anyone so far thinks using letro till my adex arrives is a good thing..

Would you rather take the possibility of hampering minor gains or would you rather have a C cup of titties after your cycle?