Truth and myth about Peptides

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Hi all,
So I got my IGF-1 LR3, not from ARR because it did not work. Got it from ****.
I do not have any Acetic Acid, and I think, I won’t find some soon, so I’ll stick to freeze precharged pins with bac.
I read in german forums, that at 20mcg /day and above, receptors will get saturated very soon. They plan to do 13mcg E3D, to maintain their receptors fresh.
My Idea was to to it like follow:
Week 1: 25mcg PWO
Week 2: 50mcg PWO
Week 3: 50mcg PWO
Week 4: 75mcg PWO

To get receptors saturated as slow as possible, and then at week 4 where they should be very saturated, upper the dose, to get some benefit.
How does it sounds???
Thanks

Would someone please tell this shit for brains Spanish Fly that 4 weeks on peps is jokular I refuse to give this idgit one oz of good info I ike reading his DA post

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Thanks Porkchop!
I’ll do a 4 weeks run, so after reconstruction, it will stay 4 weeks in the fridge.
I’ll do 50mcg after workout, I workout 5 days a week so it will be 5 days on 2 days off, 250mcg a week.
I’m thinking about freezing precharged pins. Hope that freezed hormone won’t die.
I’m thinking too, to pin IM instead of pinning subq.
My question about that is: what is more efficient for muscle growth, subQ or IM (not localized growth intended, but IM like in the legs or glutes)??
Whats about the IGF Gut? IM will help not getting the gut? I think its all BS, I mean, for logic, IGF-1 LR3 has an halflife of 20h so either you pin IM or subq, you’ll have IGF-1 in your bloodstream for a long time.
So intestine receptor won’t get less amount IM instead of subQ, different than DES, that has some 10-20min halflife, so maybe there’s no time to get in bloodstream and go straight to intestine, and maybe, localized growth is more possible. That’s my thinking, am I wrong??

To copy a respected member Fit2bold " you can't make this shit up " I bet this numb nuts is really doing what he is posting and thining he is feeling what he states ?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Just go back to 800 mg of Tren a day an 500 mg of Test and 200 mg of Masterone and all the d-Bol you can and not piss blood you should feel a difference then why play with sissy peptides when you are the chemical man you pee anabolic piss ?

4 weeks on peps what a pure waste . . . lol !

[Lunk1]

Would someone please tell this shit for brains Spanish Fly that 4 weeks on peps is jokular I refuse to give this idgit one oz of good info I ike reading his DA post

To copy a respected member Fit2bold " you can't make this shit up " I bet this numb nuts is really doing what he is posting and thining he is feeling what he states ?

Is it possible for you to EVER say anything constructive? More importantly, useful?? If your only purpose in this thread is to violate board policy and flame another member then please find your way back to the cheese line.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Is it possible for you to EVER say anything constructive? More importantly, useful?? If your only purpose in this thread is to violate board policy and flame another member then please find your way back to the cheese line.

Oh are you warm for my forum there hun ? Did you miss me ? I never addressed you and who maade you thread God ? FO !

Your still jealous because I look better than you and I am 20 + years older I can see why you would feel bad but get over it I work harder than you laddy

[Lunk1]

Oh are you warm for my forum there hun ? Did you miss me ? I never addressed you and who maade you thread God ? FO !

Your still jealous because I look better than you and I am 20 + years older I can see why you would feel bad but get over it I work harder than you laddy

Why are you so angry? I paid my taxes so I'm sure you got your check. Since your capable of busting your aas so hard in the gym, perhaps you could spend less time trash talking and more time filling out job apps.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Why are you so angry? I paid my taxes so I'm sure you got your check. Since your capable of busting your aas so hard in the gym, perhaps you could spend less time trash talking and more time filling out job apps.

Why I go to school and make 50K a year tax free and I paid more in taxes when I owned my Used car dealership than you DA will pay in your life time You will never get you donation to the gov back and I may come close I have plenty of time to train and ride my MTB 20 miles a day and date and why would I want a job so I could be a looser like you I bet I make as much as you if not more and don't have a job lol If I had I job I would have to pay taxes and deal with Obama care as it is I am fully covered for $105.00 a mth

I don't want a job thae VA pays me 20 K to go to school on the VRAP program I would be a fool to get a job ?

OH suck my root

Also do you have a current pic the one you have posted makes you look disabled ?

[Lunk1]

I really hope at under 40 that your avatar is not a pic of you ? Unless it is pre High school ! DF Grunt Oh an official BS for the USMC poster child for PTWS . Ate to many MRES

^^^If your going to PM me with these cryptic insults then please keep in mind I that I only read English and Spanish. By the way if 240-250lbs is pre high school then I wanna know what that kids doin bahahahah!

[Lunk1]

Why I go to school and make 50K a year tax free and I paid more in taxes when I owned my Used car dealership than you DA will pay in your life time You will never get you donation to the gov back and I may come close I have plenty of time to train and ride my MTB 20 miles a day and date and why would I want a job so I could be a looser like you I bet I make as much as you if not more and don't have a job lol If I had I job I would have to pay taxes and deal with Obama care as it is I am fully covered for $105.00 a mth

I don't want a job thae VA pays me 20 K to go to school on the VRAP program I would be a fool to get a job ?

OH suck my root

Also do you have a current pic the one you have posted makes you look disabled ?

20K from the VA and and your disability check from the sand lodged in your vagina? Amazing!! Remember when I told you that you are un-armed in the war of wits? Nothing has changed.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I really hope at under 40 that your avatar is not a pic of you ? Unless it is pre High school ! DF Grunt Oh an official BS for the USMC poster child for PTWS . Ate to many MRES

^^^If your going to PM me with these cryptic insults then please keep in mind I that I only read English and Spanish. By the way if 240-250lbs is pre high school then I wanna know what that kids doin bahahahah!

So you are happy with bird legs, a gut, no definition , and looking disabled ? I am the disabled one and you look sad SADRU laddy .

You claim to have been a Jar Head ? I think you may have been a section 8 Jar Head !

My 19 year old son joined the Corp today and not a DA grunt either and he is in better shape natty than you he is 6 2 and 220 and lay you to shame not to mention his old man me 54 and 6 0 and 218 lbs SADRU again !

[Lunk1]

So you are happy with bird legs, a gut, no definition , and looking disabled ? I am the disabled one and you look sad SADRU laddy

Oh snap. I just figured out what brought you back. It's the first of the month so you were able to pick up more rec drugs and Boones Farm. Enjoy!

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Oh snap. I just figured out what brought you back. It's the first of the month so you were able to pick up more rec drugs and Boones Farm. Enjoy!

Yep you are a section 8 and know all the tricks I volenteer at the VA and you could come by and let me give you a dose of what you really need ! I would make sure you had no need to return

You are the out of shape expert I have only been back training 13 mths and make you look sad ? Do you not have any pride at all just want to mess with me try being healthy and let your body speak for you you are in piss poor shape or a young man SADRU !

Still don't have a job and make more take home spendable $$$ than you ! lol

Post a current pic you big wussy ! That is a man on man challange I will post one from july and if that is not better heath wise tha you I will go to all the trouble to take a fresh one tomorrow and it is even leaner more cut and more vascular so put up or STFU you big cry baby ! all you do is oiss and moan are you sure you don't have a virgina ? _ussy !

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Come on lunky put up or STFU I am 54 and you are under 40 and all you want to do is run you dick skinner ! Man to man show what you work so hard to have so much knowledge to share you should look like Kel the way you talk so put it on the line against a 54 year old or again STFU and get off my back if you can't apply the advice you give and are not a walking bill board of health you are insane you stuid MF er !

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Well I guess that proves it you are a wussy and are ashamed to lay ot on the line against a 13 mth novice that was stating what everyone thinks baout Andera and you even take away from that d you know how absure his post are and you call me out and I will go toe to toe with your DA everytime you started it and I called you so I se you are an un healthy POS so leave me alone and STFU about my post and until you body reps what you advise stop trying to be a pro trainer ! you are really getting to look very stupid and remember you stated this you called me out when I had not even addressed you so PO !

[pitchindude]

Come on lunky put up or STFU I am 54 and you are under 40 and all you want to do is run you dick skinner ! Man to man show what you work so hard to have so much knowledge to share you should look like Kel the way you talk so put it on the line against a 54 year old or again STFU and get off my back if you can't apply the advice you give and are not a walking bill board of health you are insane you stuid MF er !

What the hell is wrong with you, you tool? A few too many shots to the head or what? You're just a nasty, unhappy old man it seems. Go away, stop filling the boards with you crap.

[Lunk1]

Would you like my phone number and address as well? Perhaps the number and name of my employer? By the way...you forgot a cpl birthdays, I'm almost 41. So inconsiderate lol.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Would you like my phone number and address as well? Perhaps the number and name of my employer? By the way...you forgot a cpl birthdays, I'm almost 41. So inconsiderate lol.

Oh I see now you want a handicap like in golf for being 41 I was a Sgt with only 2 years in so buck up there laddy you called me out ! don't try to change the subject put up or STFU ! if you don't have the body from using your knowledge that would indicate a flaw in you advice ?

Just post a pic man don't be scared unless you are in that sad of shape ?

Keep in mind you called me out lunker !

That avatar is after 8 mths of training see if you can compare I got 5 mor thhs . under my belt now and thank God it shows so if a pics is a fact what can you argue with ?

No I anin't no Kel but that is a 54 year old man that had not touched a weight in 25 years and you are 20+ years younger so what is your problem you tried cutting me dow because I am disabled and you have no idea why ? You lied and said your taxes paid my disability ! I paid my sel my own disability for 28 years and huge amouts to the Govt you said I was a street drug user and a wino ? You tried every cut you could think of and all I ask was how healthy wre you ?

[Lunk1]

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

What the hell is wrong with you, you tool? A few too many shots to the head or what? You're just a nasty, unhappy old man it seems. Go away, stop filling the boards with you crap.

Oh and if I wanted any crap from you I would squeeze it out who asked you to call me out ? You don't know me and I owe you nothing Mind your own aid issues

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Oh I will believe that you are a black square . . . . lol ?

Make it a current one because it will be tomorrow before I can post mine with 5 more mths of training on this old man

Good night you simple minded FU_k I am going to bed and sleep and then get up about 8:00 go ride my MTB and then eat a second time then go do a light w/o then come home eat and take a nap then eat again and go shoot some pool and then eat again then got to the gym again keep playomh simpleton I will check back tomorrow . . . lol !

[pitchindude]

Oh and if I wanted any crap from you I would squeeze it out who asked you to call me out ? You don't know me and I owe you nothing Mind your own aid issues

-Squeeze it out of me, huh? Lol okay tough guy.

-Didn't need to be asked to call you out. People generally "call out" those who act like total idiots.

You may not owe me anything but you're a jerk and quite clearly contribute nothing of use around here so, again, go away.

...and mind my own "aid issues"?

[Lunk1]

Oh I will believe that you are a black square . . . . lol ?

Make it a current one because it will be tomorrow before I can post mine with 5 more mths of training on this old man

Good night you simple minded FU_k I am going to bed and sleep and then get up about 8:00 go ride my MTB and then eat a second time then go do a light w/o then come home eat and take a nap then eat again and go shoot some pool and then eat again then got to the gym again keep playomh simpleton I will check back tomorrow . . . lol !

Sounds great. I'll get up at 6:30, go to work at the first job for 7-9 hours, come home and shower before leaving for my second nine hour job. Then squeeze in a bit of gym time, come home and make love to my beautiful wife then go to bed. I hope you keep enjoying my pay check.

[XxAndreaxX]

WTF is goin on with you all, crazy gringos huh?? Haha OMG, I only wanted to talk about IGF-1…. So, ok, some news, I’m feeling crap all day, very tired, yesterday diarrhea (maybe coincidence that I got a virus), and hot flashes while training. Still no numb hands and pumps during WO. Still at 25mcg PWO, next week 50mcg, I think 50mcg is too much to begin with, too many sides, and if the receptor story is true, I think starting low, is more a hit than a miss.
My goals are to shred some fat, and get back to my summer look, when I was on AAS (I know it could be possible, because ppl tell me I look bigger than this summer, although I know that’s not true, but maybe it could be true with the IGF-1). My diet is still clean, not as clean as during summer, I’m not even taking protein shakes, because I want to take a break from all that stuff, to clean my body and my organs.

[Back In Black]

WTF is goin on with you all, crazy gringos huh?? Haha OMG, I only wanted to talk about IGF-1…. So, ok, some news, I’m feeling crap all day, very tired, yesterday diarrhea (maybe coincidence that I got a virus), and hot flashes while training. Still no numb hands and pumps during WO. Still at 25mcg PWO, next week 50mcg, I think 50mcg is too much to begin with, too many sides, and if the receptor story is true, I think starting low, is more a hit than a miss.
My goals are to shred some fat, and get back to my summer look, when I was on AAS (I know it could be possible, because ppl tell me I look bigger than this summer, although I know that’s not true, but maybe it could be true with the IGF-1). My diet is still clean, not as clean as during summer, I’m not even taking protein shakes, because I want to take a break from all that stuff, to clean my body and my organs.

Let's get this right, you want to clean your body and organs so you aren't having protein shakes and your diet is less clean than it was. But you are happy to inject all types and all combinations of steroids and peptides?

If you aren't a troll you're an imbecile.

[Back In Black]

BuzzardMarinePumper next time you post on this forum can you get your interpreter to type it and maybe add some grammar because I haven't got a fvcking scooby doo what you say in ANY of your posts. Thank you.

[XxAndreaxX]

Let's get this right, you want to clean your body and organs so you aren't having protein shakes and your diet is less clean than it was. But you are happy to inject all types and all combinations of steroids and peptides?

If you aren't a troll you're an imbecile.

No man, you don’t get it.
Ufff and its hard to explain, mainly to a bodybuilder, but I’ll try that.
When I say, my diet is not as clean as this summer, and I want to take a break of “synthetical” protein, but be on IGF-1, I know what I’m saying.
I mean, someone who drinks 3 protein shakes a day, takes creatine without a break, and eats only meat and weat, all year long for many years, is not any healthier than someone who does his grandmother diet, ands slams in a cycle a year.
I’m convinced, that we should take a big break, sometimes in a year, from all that stuff, maybe not all at the same time, but sometimes from each compound. I’d do a cycle once a year, take peptides once a year too, but separated from the cycle, to maintain gains, take creatine once or twice a year, and live for a couple of months from natural proteins and vitamins without taking any supplements.
That for not going from use to abuse.
I’m shure, someone that abuses from protein shakes and creatine, wont live longer than someone who makes one cycle a year, without abusing from proteins, or doing crazy diets.
And switching between compounds like I do (steroids and peptides) is less bad than doing only steroids 2-3 times a year, or even blast and cruise on TRT.
This is my personal opinion, and I know I’m wrong in this forum, but outside, in the real world, I’m right.

[Back In Black]

Keep believing it Andrea, protein powders are at least as bad as steroid abuse . You don't cycle once a year and you ram in as many compounds as you can.

Whatever. See you next year when you still weigh less than 80kg after your 10th cycle.

[Capebuffalo]

Please post data for this statement. I find it amazing I've been doing this wrong for so long. How many years have you been doing this? You must have amazing results can you post those as well? Thank you so much. I'm here to learn.

"And switching between compounds like I do (steroids and peptides) is less bad than doing only steroids 2-3 times a year, or even blast and cruise on TRT.
This is my personal opinion, and I know I’m wrong in this forum, but outside, in the real world, I’m right."

[Capebuffalo]

Ding ding ding. Round 2. Lunk vs Buzzard

Wtf?

[XxAndreaxX]

CapeBuffalo I know you were doing it like that until now, like the most people here, I’m not convinced that you’re doing it right, maybe I’m wrong, but we’ll know it only in the long future (at least I hope so).
My stats are, 2 years ago 68kg at 1,86m and now 80kg at 1,86 and less BF. Nothing spectacular compared to a mesomorph, that stock is maybe 80kg @ 1,70m….
But back on topic, I feel like I’m getting fat instead of leaning out, I upped my carbs a little at lunch, and drink some enegy drink during WO.
Today I’ll stick to water during WO.
You should keep this thread clean, because, there are not many logs out there, about IGF-1 experiences, and the little you can find are mostly combined with AAS, or some Adverts for selling peptides like, I got amazing results by taking IGF-1 only, got up 10lbs in a month and so on, or others that say, it did nothing to me no sides, no results.
I mean, IGF-1, you can feel it, I feel it, even at 25mcg /day, wether I’ll have some results or not, we’ll know in less than 3 weeks, but sides are there.
ATM lethargy, sore muscles, gastro-intestinal troubles, and hot flashes during WO.
I’m still waiting for the famous pumps and hand numbness. And obviously for the Hyperplasia.
My personal trainer told me Hyperplasia doesn’t exist, It exists only in rats and maybe other animals, but humans do not get Hyperplasia. I asked him how he came to that conclusion, and he told me, he studied that, and there’s no freakin way to get hyperplasia in skeletal muscle tissue in humans (maybe only in prostate or other organs).
I mean, I thaught hyperplasia was for real, due today BBers are much bigger than the Schwarzenegger-era ones.
But it seems we can get hyperplasia only where we don’t want to.

[Juced_porkchop]

Just go back to 800 mg of Tren a day an 500 mg of Test and 200 mg of Masterone and all the d-Bol you can and not piss blood you should feel a difference then why play with sissy peptides when you are the chemical man you pee anabolic piss ?

4 weeks on peps what a pure waste . . . lol !

no not really, not long term over multiple cycles. dont speak on subject if you dont have exp with it...

[Juced_porkchop]

CapeBuffalo I know you were doing it like that until now, like the most people here, I’m not convinced that you’re doing it right, maybe I’m wrong, but we’ll know it only in the long future (at least I hope so).
My stats are, 2 years ago 68kg at 1,86m and now 80kg at 1,86 and less BF. Nothing spectacular compared to a mesomorph, that stock is maybe 80kg @ 1,70m….
But back on topic, I feel like I’m getting fat instead of leaning out, I upped my carbs a little at lunch, and drink some enegy drink during WO.
Today I’ll stick to water during WO.
You should keep this thread clean, because, there are not many logs out there, about IGF-1 experiences, and the little you can find are mostly combined with AAS, or some Adverts for selling peptides like, I got amazing results by taking IGF-1 only, got up 10lbs in a month and so on, or others that say, it did nothing to me no sides, no results.
I mean, IGF-1, you can feel it, I feel it, even at 25mcg /day, wether I’ll have some results or not, we’ll know in less than 3 weeks, but sides are there.
ATM lethargy, sore muscles, gastro-intestinal troubles, and hot flashes during WO.
I’m still waiting for the famous pumps and hand numbness. And obviously for the Hyperplasia.
My personal trainer told me Hyperplasia doesn’t exist, It exists only in rats and maybe other animals, but humans do not get Hyperplasia. I asked him how he came to that conclusion, and he told me, he studied that, and there’s no freakin way to get hyperplasia in skeletal muscle tissue in humans (maybe only in prostate or other organs).
I mean, I thaught hyperplasia was for real, due today BBers are much bigger than the Schwarzenegger-era ones.
But it seems we can get hyperplasia only where we don’t want to.

he is wrong...

[Juced_porkchop]

Keep believing it Andrea, protein powders are at least as bad as steroid abuse . You don't cycle once a year and you ram in as many compounds as you can.

Whatever. See you next year when you still weigh less than 80kg after your 10th cycle.

Thats a really stupid statment..
I am non-meat eater and take in 150-200g protein daily JUST from protein powders + abit more from food. for many years now...
People seem to think for some reason protein powder DOESNT = Food... but IT DOES!!!
yes not eating food with it will make it pass through you faster ( too fast maybe for some) and being dehydrated while on high protein diet ( regardless of with or without powders) can cause kidny issues. I have mine mostly with food or in smoothy
but it IS safe and NOT ANYWERE like "steroid abuse" thats just an asinine comment to make...

[Juced_porkchop]

No man, you don’t get it.
Ufff and its hard to explain, mainly to a bodybuilder, but I’ll try that.
When I say, my diet is not as clean as this summer, and I want to take a break of “synthetical” protein, but be on IGF-1, I know what I’m saying.
I mean, someone who drinks 3 protein shakes a day, takes creatine without a break, and eats only meat and weat, all year long for many years, is not any healthier than someone who does his grandmother diet, ands slams in a cycle a year.
I’m convinced, that we should take a big break, sometimes in a year, from all that stuff, maybe not all at the same time, but sometimes from each compound. I’d do a cycle once a year, take peptides once a year too, but separated from the cycle, to maintain gains, take creatine once or twice a year, and live for a couple of months from natural proteins and vitamins without taking any supplements.
That for not going from use to abuse.
I’m shure, someone that abuses from protein shakes and creatine, wont live longer than someone who makes one cycle a year, without abusing from proteins, or doing crazy diets.
And switching between compounds like I do (steroids and peptides) is less bad than doing only steroids 2-3 times a year, or even blast and cruise on TRT.
This is my personal opinion, and I know I’m wrong in this forum, but outside, in the real world, I’m right.

I guess my protein comment was to you... not Back in black..... missed this post...

[Juced_porkchop]

ok, yes my plan was 4 weeks on 4 weeks off, but is it a 5 day on and 2 day off scedule?? because I only WO 5 days a week. i'd pin 1-2 hours after WO 50mcg.
thanks!!

i do it 7 days on for 4-10weeks at a time ( normally about 6 weeks) but 5 on 2 off is fine. just preference

[Back In Black]

I guess my protein comment was to you... not Back in black..... missed this post...

Good, saved me getting upset with you

[Juced_porkchop]

There is NO alternative to hgh, its all hype and any gains will be lost after you stop the peps. I don't know anyone who continued to use them who has used hgh for any length of time. Poor man's gh lol

I agree straight HGH is better, but i dont agree that peptides are crap. they do help and will last long term. but a cycle of peps is not going to be noticed like say a 500mg 12 week cycle of test. not even close.

[Juced_porkchop]

another question: AR-R does not ship Acetic Acid... where can I find it??

Didnt you see my post above about aa?

[Capebuffalo]

CapeBuffalo I know you were doing it like that until now, like the most people here, I’m not convinced that you’re doing it right, maybe I’m wrong, but we’ll know it only in the long future (at least I hope so).
My stats are, 2 years ago 68kg at 1,86m and now 80kg at 1,86 and less BF. Nothing spectacular compared to a mesomorph, that stock is maybe 80kg @ 1,70m….
But back on topic, I feel like I’m getting fat instead of leaning out, I upped my carbs a little at lunch, and drink some enegy drink during WO.
Today I’ll stick to water during WO.
You should keep this thread clean, because, there are not many logs out there, about IGF-1 experiences, and the little you can find are mostly combined with AAS, or some Adverts for selling peptides like, I got amazing results by taking IGF-1 only, got up 10lbs in a month and so on, or others that say, it did nothing to me no sides, no results.
I mean, IGF-1, you can feel it, I feel it, even at 25mcg /day, wether I’ll have some results or not, we’ll know in less than 3 weeks, but sides are there.
ATM lethargy, sore muscles, gastro-intestinal troubles, and hot flashes during WO.
I’m still waiting for the famous pumps and hand numbness. And obviously for the Hyperplasia.
My personal trainer told me Hyperplasia doesn’t exist, It exists only in rats and maybe other animals, but humans do not get Hyperplasia. I asked him how he came to that conclusion, and he told me, he studied that, and there’s no freakin way to get hyperplasia in skeletal muscle tissue in humans (maybe only in prostate or other organs).
I mean, I thaught hyperplasia was for real, due today BBers are much bigger than the Schwarzenegger-era ones.
But it seems we can get hyperplasia only where we don’t want to.

I should keep this thread clean? I simply asked for you to supply data to support your claim. Have you read any of the other post? And I need to keep it clean. Yeah.

[redhawk01]

BuzzardMarinePumper next time you post on this forum can you get your interpreter to type it and maybe add some grammar because I haven't got a fvcking scooby doo what you say in ANY of your posts. Thank you.

^^^^this^^^^
I think I became dumb, trying to read his posts.