Beware of UGL: Chemical Muscle - Worrisome Recent Events - Contaminated Gear

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 04:08 PM

Anyones says anything good dismissed anything bad its private. Never used em have some as stated. But this whole thing is done. Lock the thread and ban the words chemical muscle whenever they are used together. The intent was to help but I don't think it's helping anymore. Thanks for the heads up guys probably saved someone thousands in medical bills.

**Matt** · 11-08-2013, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

Anyones says anything good dismissed anything bad its private. Never used em have some as stated. But this whole thing is done. Lock the thread and ban the words chemical muscle whenever they are used together. The intent was to help but I don't think it's helping anymore. Thanks for the heads up guys probably saved someone thousands in medical bills.

This thread will stay open and be bumped so that every member and visitor that comes here will be made aware of the serious dangers of using dirty gear....

Besides i thought you wanted to see the original thread???

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Matt

This thread will stay open and be bumped so that every member and visitor that comes here will be made aware of the serious dangers of using dirty gear....

Besides i thought you wanted to see the original thread???

I did but who cares at this point. Minds are made up. True colors were shown. Bump it til your blue in the face and save the masses.

**austinite** · 11-08-2013, 04:22 PM

Yeah no one is locking it. Might actually make for a good sticky for a while. But for now, keep it bumped.

**Euroholic** · 11-08-2013, 04:51 PM

Horrible news seriously some people have no work ethic. they give steroids a bad name. I hope the scammers and there love ones die of HIV.

Another reason why aas should be legal and regulated.

Godspeed infected members

**MartyMcFly** · 11-08-2013, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yeah no one is locking it. Might actually make for a good sticky for a while. But for now, keep it bumped.

I think this is a great idea. I was lucky enough to see the thread yesterday and promptly disposed of my upcoming cycle.

I may have lost some cash but I'm not going to risk my life for some muscle gains. I'm rethinking even running any ugl gear ever. Not worth it when you step back and look at the potential risks involved.

I wish a speedy and full recovery to all who experienced any health issues.

**Euroholic** · 11-08-2013, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by MartyMcFly

I think this is a great idea. I was lucky enough to see the thread yesterday and promptly disposed of my upcoming cycle.

I may have lost some cash but I'm not going to risk my life for some muscle gains. I'm rethinking even running any ugl gear ever. Not worth it when you step back and look at the potential risks involved.

I wish a speedy and full recovery to all who experienced any health issues.

Pharm grade is the way to go. I only use tren which i made my self everything else is pharm.

**RockShawn** · 11-08-2013, 05:11 PM

Well I have no personal stake in this, and I'm not friends with anyone here, but I've been using CM gear and have never had a problem. I popped in cause I hadn't been here in a while and I saw the thread and thought WTF. I never saw the OP complaining or any other thread on this issue, just logged back in today and saw this. I would love to see more proof, but I'm going with my experience at the moment. Not bashing anyone or calling anyone a liar.

**thisAngelBites** · 11-08-2013, 05:28 PM

I saw the original post which was not by a mod, but a member, and he was justifiably very ill and upset. I hope he and the others who are dealing with issues as a result who wish to remain anonymous recover well. And I have no financial interest in CM, as I'm not into any of that stuff in any way.

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 05:31 PM

I'll stay out of this. ...cm

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 05:33 PM

Never mind ...cm

**austinite** · 11-08-2013, 05:40 PM

Very, very defensive mike. What gives? Most of what you said is untrue. Actually completely made up. Every infection complaint came from members, not mods.

You do realize that scammers can be selective, right?

**Euroholic** · 11-08-2013, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Send me some. I am unable to get pharm grade

...crazy mike

Careful dont let admin see that mate.

You will find pharm/vet just got to send out feelers, meet people etc

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 05:46 PM

I decided to stay out of this. I think you can appreciate that.

...crazy mike

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Careful dont let admin see that mate.

You will find pharm/vet just got to send out feelers, meet people etc

That was a joke and we all know that. ...crazy mike

**Hazard** · 11-08-2013, 05:57 PM

well.....

I agree that those with issues should come out like one member in particular did. That would take a lot of the flac off the staff here. Now if they wont doit..... then theres not much I personally can do. I will say that im hoping we can get those who have had problems to come forward to lay this to rest.

The staff here does its best to protect it's members. Many scammers and reps for UGL's have come and gone over the years. At the end of the day I don't give a good fvck is a CM rep thinks i'm lying about what I say. I have my own source who is phenominal. He's closed to new customers and I wouldn't give him out to anyone for the simple fact that I don't want to be held responsible for a users mistake. I have zero stake in CM - I don't care if they are successful or not. I'm not going to spend time bashing someone or a company for the hell of it. I am simply passing on information I was given and/or have seen so the members of this board can make a choice for themselves if they already have the contact info for this lab. The last thing I want to happen is for someone I talk to on the regular or even someone I consider a friend on this site to use their gear and wind up in the hospital.

As a staff member of this site I have a job to protect the site and it's members. We have so much shit to deal with on a daily basis..... posts to review, posts to put into moderation or delete, review advice given, give advice, etc. How many people here frequent every single section of this forum? how many people here go through every single thread in every single forum? It's too much for one person and thats why we have many staff members. Sometimes things pass through the cracks..... like ugl reps. We catch on to them though..... we always do.

My point here is that..... we do what we do because we love this community. We aren't paid..... we have nothing in this but the love of the sport and the desire to help those who need it. If reps from CM want to come in here and try and tarnish that but claiming we have no proof.... then fine. If members choose to believe them over guys who have been here doing this for years and years..... then fine. All we can do is warn people of what we find out.

Oh and lastly..... there is proof :-) it'll come to light..... all in good time! Unfortunately I don't own this site and I can't just go and take things out of moderation. I have someone to answer to..... when they give the go-ahead.... everyone will see those pictures and the original thread started.

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 06:06 PM

To staff and other vets, you all know of my problems in the past and the accusations of me. I should stay totally out of this thread and so I have deleted my few posts.

Austin as usual I didn't represent myself accurately on paper here, so I took that post of mine down and wish to stay out of this. Best for me and all. My experiences are what they are and they are true. That's how I will leave my comments, and back off the tread. Thx. ...crazy mike

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 06:07 PM

I want to see who ends up being a rep for CM surely the people defending it WILL be on that list. Only a fool would defend a dirty product.

**JJ78** · 11-08-2013, 06:09 PM

I dont use them and never had.

But, one other way to look at it is that the infected members could have a grudge with the company and are making it all up.

Or the people defending them could also have a stake in the company.

2 sides to every story.

But I in no way think that mods have any agenda, but to provide good and helpful info for all members here.

Doing the right thing and appreciated.

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 06:10 PM

Ok no personal attacks please..

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 06:18 PM

^^^^

**JJ78** · 11-08-2013, 06:19 PM

I personally try not to think about getting infections or the risks I take everytime I inject.

I know my shit that I get is brewed up in some frekishly large friend of a friends apartment.
I'M serious this dude is 6'5 350lbs? and low body fat. Looks like a monster out of a nightmare.
Acne everywhere, but f*cking huge.

So all Im sayin is that can pretty much happen to anyone who doesnt brew in a sterile med. lab, right? Not like the FDA are doing random checks on these home labs.

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

Ok no personal attacks please..

Good post. ....crazy mike

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 06:22 PM

Fortunately this thread will NOT die.

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

Fortunately this thread will NOT die.

What's your interest in it anyhow.

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

What's your interest in it anyhow.

My interest is seeing the scumbags who sell/rep dirty gear and cause someone to become very ill be exposed and go down in flames. And after reports of people becoming infected,this lab continued to sell their gear with complete disregard for other people's safety.

I respect the majority of the people in this community and I don't want to see the same thing happen to one of them.

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

What's your interest in it anyhow.

Good Q's Fcastle. ...cm

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

My interest is seeing the scumbags who sell/rep dirty gear and cause someone to become very ill be exposed and go down in flames. And after reports of people becoming infected,this lab continued to sell their gear with complete disregard for other people's safety.

I respect the majority of the people in this community and I don't want to see the same thing happen to one of them.

What facts are you basing this on.

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 06:33 PM

Someone sounds jacked up on Tren ....!!!! Ya think . ...crazy mike

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

What facts are you basing this on.

I'm basing it on members testimonials. The most recent being yesterday. Prior to him getting an infection and being in the hospital he supported this lab and defended it. He then came back and have a run of what happened to him. Why would he defend it and then come back and post pictures and tell his story about have tubes in his butt to drain this nasty infection. That is how people die and give steroids a bad name.

The real question is why did this become 20 questions. And I'm sorry mike but I thought you were leaving his thread. Idk why but I think I remember your name in his thread. ***scratch**
I could be wrong... Not.

What other facts could there possibly be? More than one person getting a infection and the common denominator being CM gear.

Pretty cut and dry to me.

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 06:39 PM

Unless you sat with this person and followed his whole injection process you don't know. As far as the rest of the people they have yet to surface. For now I will hold off on dumping my gear. I don't have enough evidence to toss it or use it.

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 06:40 PM

Edit

I see now. You are upset you wasted your money. You could try the gear but I wouldn't wish an infection on anyone.

And your telling me more than one person using the same gear, have poor enough injection technique that they get an infection?

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

I'm going to respectfully bow out because I don't want to hurt feelings.

I will be around for when the OP is brought out of moderation and people realize what really happened. Have a good rest of the night

Brought out of moderation. This whole thing sounds like a joke. Sounds like something the government would do. We have proof were just not ready to show it. Trust us. In the meantime silence all who oppose.

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

Brought out of moderation. This whole thing sounds like a joke. Sounds like something the government would do. We have proof were just not ready to show it. Trust us. In the meantime silence all who oppose.

I see why you would be skeptical. But I have messaged staff for your safety regarding the original post. Regardless of my attitude I do not want to see other members hurt and in the hospital. Just don't inject that gear until you review the facts for yourself.

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

I see why you would be skeptical. But I have messaged staff for your safety regarding the original post. Regardless of my attitude I do not want to see other members hurt and in the hospital. Just don't inject that gear until you review the facts for yourself.

Safety for what

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

Safety for what

Really?

So you don't end up in the hospital because you don't want to throw your gear in the garbage.

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

Really?

So you don't end up in the hospital because you don't want to throw your gear in the garbage.

What are they gonna do about it.

**Fcastle357** · 11-08-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

Really?

So you don't end up in the hospital because you don't want to throw your gear in the garbage.

Is that a threat are they gonna contact local authorities is that what your saying

**Mp859** · 11-08-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

What are they gonna do about it.

Omg bro.

I'm done. If you can't comprehend what I'm saying to you then I can tell no matter what anyone says that you will still inject this crap. Good luck to you

**crazy mike** · 11-08-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

I'm basing it on members testimonials. The most recent being yesterday. Prior to him getting an infection and being in the hospital he supported this lab and defended it. He then came back and have a run of what happened to him. Why would he defend it and then come back and post pictures and tell his story about have tubes in his butt to drain this nasty infection. That is how people die and give steroids a bad name.

The real question is why did this become 20 questions. And I'm sorry mike but I thought you were leaving his thread. Idk why but I think I remember your name in his thread. ***scratch**
I could be wrong... Not.What other facts could there possibly be? More than one person getting a infection and the common denominator being CM gear.

Pretty cut and dry to me.

Do we have a problem here? ...crazy mike