My First Test Cyp + Dianabol Cycle and Obstacles Encountered

[gold43]

I'm sure you know your too young for AAS.

Stop the Dbol and continue your cycle. Don't worry about not getting gains by stopping Dbol. You will most likely lose 80% of Dbol gains anyways, it's water weight.

Your missing hCG ON cycle!! 250iu twice a week.
You need Clomid in your PCT
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 75/50/50/50

[holasenor]

I'll take your word for it and stop the Dbol . I'm sick of the headaches! And yes I'm aware of the age, Regardless I made up and my mind and am sticking to it.

In regards to the hcg , from what I've read I thought I wouldn't need it since I'm not taking high amounts of anything, also I figured the less substances in me the better.

As for the clomid wouldn't the nolva be enough alone? Why both?


Thanks for the help

[MuscleInk]

I'll take your word for it and stop the Dbol . I'm sick of the headaches! And yes I'm aware of the age, Regardless I made up and my mind and am sticking to it.

In regards to the hcg , from what I've read I thought I wouldn't need it since I'm not taking high amounts of anything, also I figured the less substances in me the better.

As for the clomid wouldn't the nolva be enough alone? Why both?

Thanks for the help

You should read threads from guys your age who ran better cycles and now have erectile dysfunction, depression, anxiety, no sex drive and have lost most of their gains. They were confident too......once.

Your questions unfortunately speak to the lack of research you've done.

The negative feedback loop caused by exogenous testosterone will suppress your intratesticular testosterone. HCG mimics LH by activating leydig cells and minimizes cellular dormancy and atrophy, albeit a different molecular pathway.

Clomid......you should already know this as well. It induces spermatogenesis to help recover sperm motility and load which is attenuated while cycling.

Again, not to bust your balls but you are asking for problems not fully understanding the drugs you are using.

As for the headaches, far far greater problems are ahead if you don't get that blood pressure down. Hypertensive heart disease and arterial diseases are only a few.

[holasenor]

You should read threads from guys your age who ran better cycles and now have erectile dysfunction, depression, anxiety, no sex drive and have lost most of their gains. They were confident too......once.

Your questions unfortunately speak to the lack of research you've done.

The negative feedback loop caused by exogenous testosterone will suppress your intratesticular testosterone. HCG mimics LH by activating leydig cells and minimizes cellular dormancy and atrophy, albeit a different molecular pathway.

Clomid......you should already know this as well. It induces spermatogenesis to help recover sperm motility and load which is attenuated while cycling.

Again, not to bust your balls but you are asking for problems not fully understanding the you are using.

As for the headaches, far far greater problems are ahead if you don't get that blood pressure down. Hypertensive heart disease and arterial diseases are only a few.

Ok I'm done with the dbol . And now I will be ordering the clomid. As for the hcg, is it too late to start running it? Or possibly add it to my pct?

[havanakid]

I'll take your word for it and stop the Dbol. I'm sick of the headaches! And yes I'm aware of the age, Regardless I made up and my mind and am sticking to it. In regards to the hcg, from what I've read I thought I wouldn't need it since I'm not taking high amounts of anything, also I figured the less substances in me the better. As for the clomid wouldn't the nolva be enough alone? Why both? Thanks for the help

you need both clomid and nolva as they each work on different receptors of the body.Running just one will be an incomplete recovery.It wont be enough to help you return to normal function if your fortunate to return to normal function considering your age.