Today was D-Day

[Richard Cabeza]

7th pin coming up in a bit, i know its early in my cycle but I've been seriously considering adding some dbol in the mix ...thoughts? I'm responding well to the test, no sides and i just kind of want to kick things up a notch ... i know this isn't something guys recommend on a first cycle and maybe i just caught the bug and am anxious so idk at this point its just a thought probably not something i'll even do but i am considering it

[Couchlock]

7th pin coming up in a bit, i know its early in my cycle but I've been seriously considering adding some dbol in the mix ...thoughts? I'm responding well to the test, no sides and i just kind of want to kick things up a notch ... i know this isn't something guys recommend on a first cycle and maybe i just caught the bug and am anxious so idk at this point its just a thought probably not something i'll even do but i am considering it

No.

That's the human "more is better" thinking.

Trust me, if your liking test at the 7th pinning stretch (lol, I had to) them wait till the 13th pinning overtime. If its performing well now, you'll be flabbergasted then. And don't get me started on 16 and 17 pinning.

KISS - keep it simple slick

[Richard Cabeza]

No.

That's the human "more is better" thinking.

Trust me, if your liking test at the 7th pinning stretch (lol, I had to) them wait till the 13th pinning overtime. If its performing well now, you'll be flabbergasted then. And don't get me started on 16 and 17 pinning.

KISS - keep it simple slick

Yeah its just me being impatient, I'll hold off and cool my jets.

[Couchlock]

Yeah its just me being impatient, I'll hold off and cool my jets.

I wanted to throw the kitchen sink in at one point. I did do low dose bar at last month. Wish I'd have saved it.

And I was told exactly that, save it for next cycle til you get enough to run it right. But I'm a hard head

[Richard Cabeza]

I wanted to throw the kitchen sink in at one point. I did do low dose bar at last month. Wish I'd have saved it.

And I was told exactly that, save it for next cycle til you get enough to run it right. But I'm a hard head

2nd cycle i think I'll run some d bol with my test and shake shit up a bit, just gotta stop being so anxious for these gains and be happy with what I'm getting, its just you start seeing the benefits and then are like well shit if I'm doing this goid with this imagine if i add a little of this lol. I just gotta keep telling myself its not a sprint

[fit_deskjocky]

I'm looking forward to the second cycle too, and hopefully getting through it to start planning a third. I know my second cycle will be Test-E only as the first. Just not sure about the third yet. Hell we aren't even midway through our first so it's hard to tell. I like it so far though. I did my 10th pin yesterday

[kelkel]

2nd cycle i think I'll run some d bol with my test and shake shit up a bit, just gotta stop being so anxious for these gains and be happy with what I'm getting, its just you start seeing the benefits and then are like well shit if I'm doing this goid with this imagine if i add a little of this lol. I just gotta keep telling myself its not a sprint

Exactly how guys get themselves into problems. Glad you recognize this.

[Richard Cabeza]

Exactly how guys get themselves into problems. Glad you recognize this.

The temptation is all too real, but thats why i said something on here. Writing it and getting you guys to tell me no reinforces what i already know and keeps my hand out the cookie jar lol 2nd cycle i think i will add dbol and see what benefits i get from it, I've already accepted that I'm a lifer but i do want to be smart and safe about it and not rush

[Richard Cabeza]

Solid workout today, good moderate pace but made it count.... hardest I've worked my shoulders since i had surgery last year, gotta cook and i can barely lift my arms lmao i love this feeling!!!! Noticed all kinds of new definition and development in my shoulders its such a great feeling especially after an injury and being told i wouldn't be able to lift heavy or train hard... fuck that, if my orthopedic surgeon could see me now he'd shit a brick lol

[Richard Cabeza]

Sick as a dog, started feeling a cold coming last night and woke up today feeling like shit.... despite the way i feel my body is calling for the gym but I'm not gonna be the guy who spreads a cold to the gym bros so I'll stay my ass home and use my dumbells and some pull ups and other calisthenics fml i hope this is a 48 hour type of bug... weather changes always fuck me up i get sick only once a year and its always around this time, not gonna let it hinder these gaaaiiinnnzzzzz though

[MToption2]

Sick as a dog, started feeling a cold coming last night and woke up today feeling like shit.... despite the way i feel my body is calling for the gym but I'm not gonna be the guy who spreads a cold to the gym bros so I'll stay my ass home and use my dumbells and some pull ups and other calisthenics fml i hope this is a 48 hour type of bug... weather changes always fuck me up i get sick only once a year and its always around this time, not gonna let it hinder these gaaaiiinnnzzzzz though

[Couchlock]

Fight the cold by injecting your test eod. Lol

[Richard Cabeza]

I just murdered some chicken noodle soup lol thats too funny.

[Richard Cabeza]

Fight the cold by injecting your test eod. Lol

Haha yeah i wish that was the cure, although funny enough tomorrow is a pin day so we'll see what happens

[MToption2]

Are you still on the same Arimidex dose? And do you still plan on BW in the next couple weeks?

[Richard Cabeza]

I increased arimidex to .5mg e3d and yes blood work in a week and a half or so.

[Richard Cabeza]

Weird pin today.... after removing the needle i was losing a little test i could see the oil mixed with a little bit of blood, i aspirated and it was clean so i injected as always so I'm not sure what could have happened there. I did however inject a small dose on the other glute just to make sure i got a full dose, im sure i got more than what i needed today but I'm not too worried about that, just weird that a little test leaked out. I have some weird spider veins on my glutes so from time to time I'll bleed a little after injection but never lost any test, i used a 1.5" in needle and was fully in, wtf could have happened?

[Richard Cabeza]

Last week was a deload week and idk why but I'm depressed kinda sort of, after not really working out I miss the gym and i have a little anxiety and feel almost some apprehension about going this morning which is weird because most times after a deload im fucking amped to hit the gym I'm like a fiend that can't wait for his fix. I think its time to get bloods done, even though its a little earlier and off schedule i don't like this feeling ..... anyone else experience anything like this before?

[Richard Cabeza]

Sucked it up and went to the gym, not the best workout but it was productive. Definitely in a weird space today

[MToption2]

Last week was a deload week and idk why but I'm depressed kinda sort of, after not really working out I miss the gym and i have a little anxiety and feel almost some apprehension about going this morning which is weird because most times after a deload im fucking amped to hit the gym I'm like a fiend that can't wait for his fix. I think its time to get bloods done, even though its a little earlier and off schedule i don't like this feeling ..... anyone else experience anything like this before?

Woah. Are you on hcg ? High blood pressure? I don't know just throwing thoughts.
I agree with early BW

[Richard Cabeza]

Woah. Are you on hcg ?
I agree with early BW

Yeah hcg and arimidex , I've been stressed lately though because my gf has been having a crazy allergic reaction to something and we've been in and out of the er for the past 5 days, haven't been able to eat properly or get much sleep and I'm pretty sure thats the cause but to be safe I'm ordering bw incase its hormonal and i need to adjust my dosages

[MToption2]

Yeah hcg and arimidex, I've been stressed lately though because my gf has been having a crazy allergic reaction to something and we've been in and out of the er for the past 5 days, haven't been able to eat properly or get much sleep and I'm pretty sure thats the cause but to be safe I'm ordering bw incase its hormonal and i need to adjust my dosages

Yeah. That sounds relatively normal then. But I don't have any experience so my input is limited. Sorry. Hope someone else can chime in.

[Richard Cabeza]

Yeah. That sounds relatively normal then. But I don't have any experience so my input is limited. Sorry. Hope someone else can chime in.

No worries man, it's nothing that's not manageable honestly just different and noticeable. I doubt its even serious but its better to be safe than sorry

[Richard Cabeza]

Ok so the down mood and all that craziness was just temporary, i absolutely murdered it in the gym today, week 5 and oh buddy I'm a go lol strength is waaaaay up i hit PR's on every exercise today and honestly i probably could've went heavier and for more sets had i had a spotter. Added 20lbs on my dumbell incline presses, added 40lbs on my seated rows, 35lbs on my pull downs, full stack on seated fly machine and definitely could've went heavier, hammer strength decline press machine 4 plates on each side for 10 reps, max before today was 3 and a quarter, not sure if my T levels are increased or if it was the deload week or a combo of both but i felt like a monster in the gym today!!!

I woke up feeling hard, not my guy lol but i mean my body felt solid, my chest and delts especially just feel really solid and thick not like a pump or tight but dense idk how to explain it.

I have truly crossed over to the dark side haha

[Richard Cabeza]

Added some d bol to the mix 40mg a day pre workout... this goes against what everyone has told me and i get that but I'm a big boy and after researching forever I see no issues with running it these last weeks of my cycle. I have 7 weeks till pct so I'll run dbol 2 weeks on 1 off until i start pct, i increased my NAC and since my estradiol is pretty low I'll keep my adex at .25 eod, get bloods done in a few weeks and adjust from there if necessary.

I did this because I'm pretty in tune with my body, at this point in my test cycle i see how I'm responding, gyno is not an issue being my estradiol is low, if anything the dbol will bring it into a good normal range which i need, i don't care about being a little bigger as it seems i already bloat with test and will cut after pct, the increased strength gains up to pct will help me mentally as well as give me that little push to possibly build a little more lean mass, not too concerned with immediately dropping size once off the dbol i understand this will happen so i mean as i thought about all of this i realized there was no reason not to add it. This is my first cycle yes but faaaaaar from the last, I've pretty much decided this is something i will be doing for a very long time ... so before guys ridicule me for this decision please understand I've done the research and have accepted what comes with this decision

[Couchlock]

Added some d bol to the mix 40mg a day pre workout... this goes against what everyone has told me and i get that but I'm a big boy and after researching forever I see no issues with running it these last weeks of my cycle. I have 7 weeks till pct so I'll run dbol 2 weeks on 1 off until i start pct, i increased my NAC and since my estradiol is pretty low I'll keep my adex at .25 eod, get bloods done in a few weeks and adjust from there if necessary.

I did this because I'm pretty in tune with my body, at this point in my test cycle i see how I'm responding, gyno is not an issue being my estradiol is low, if anything the dbol will bring it into a good normal range which i need, i don't care about being a little bigger as it seems i already bloat with test and will cut after pct, the increased strength gains up to pct will help me mentally as well as give me that little push to possibly build a little more lean mass, not too concerned with immediately dropping size once off the dbol i understand this will happen so i mean as i thought about all of this i realized there was no reason not to add it. This is my first cycle yes but faaaaaar from the last, I've pretty much decided this is something i will be doing for a very long time ... so before guys ridicule me for this decision please understand I've done the research and have accepted what comes with this decision

So you've went down the rabbit hole.

Don't stress it, EVERY ONE ADDS AN ORAL whether they admit it or not.

I didn't but I did, add var the last 4 weeks of mine

[Richard Cabeza]

So you've went down the rabbit hole.

Don't stress it, EVERY ONE ADDS AN ORAL whether they admit it or not.

I didn't but I did, add var the last 4 weeks of mine

Holy shit this shit works fast lol, first 40mg was yesterday took second dose today preworkout and idk if its placebo but i was determined in the gym like ultra focused and felt strong as fuck, the pump was insane i still feel like I'm just holding a pose lmao back is a little tense but not so much this deadly pump I've heard about its very manageable at this point, my mood in the gym was aggressive but outside of the gym i have this sense of calm ness and well being its almost a meditative state for lack of better words. If this is what dbol does I'm sold lol bring on the bloat because its worth it haha I'm so fucked, someone call mtv true life because I'm addicted to the juice!!!

[kelkel]

. so before guys ridicule me for this decision please understand I've done the research and have accepted what comes with this decision

No ridicule. You have done your homework, lab work, etc and it shows. It's the guys who don't take prudent steps that deserve a bit of ridicule, imho.

[Richard Cabeza]

No ridicule. You have done your homework, lab work, etc and it shows. It's the guys who don't take prudent steps that deserve a bit of ridicule, imho.

I appreciate that, i was tempted and was looking for all the reasons not to add it but the more i researched the more i felt comfortable with the decision. I just thought since i brought it up previously and was like yeah I'll wait guys would give me a hard time .

[Richard Cabeza]

My lats have the craziest pump still... its such a crazy feeling. So looking forward to legs tomorrow ...what legs on Mondays? What a rebel lol

[Richard Cabeza]

I definitely understand why dbol is such a staple in bodybuilding, these pumps are insane. 4 days and it just gets more and more intense with each gym session. I leave feeling like fucking Arnold haha chest and lats get the most extreme pump I've ever had and it stays for hours on end. Strength is going up for sure, today i dumbell rowed the 140s for 12 reps, my max before was 120 for 10, i pretty much just did a huge drop set and ran the rack all the way to the 60s hitting 10 reps after the 12 on 140, fucking back pump is insane, forearms are on popeye mode and my lats feel like two kids are hanging on my sides haha

[Couchlock]

I definitely understand why dbol is such a staple in bodybuilding, these pumps are insane. 4 days and it just gets more and more intense with each gym session. I leave feeling like fucking Arnold haha chest and lats get the most extreme pump I've ever had and it stays for hours on end. Strength is going up for sure, today i dumbell rowed the 140s for 12 reps, my max before was 120 for 10, i pretty much just did a huge drop set and ran the rack all the way to the 60s hitting 10 reps after the 12 on 140, fucking back pump is insane, forearms are on popeye mode and my lats feel like two kids are hanging on my sides haha

You should be nearing the end soon?

Gotta pic of progress so far?

[Richard Cabeza]

You should be nearing the end soon?

Gotta pic of progress so far?

I'll take a few tomorrow

[MToption2]

I'll take a few tomorrow

Hemavol. Extra pump.

[Richard Cabeza]

Hemavol. Extra pump.

Idk if i can handle any extra pump bro lol anything more than what I'm getting now and its gonna fuck with my lifts, i was hitting some concentration curls in my house and my biceps blew up like fucking balloons

[Richard Cabeza]

Been awhile since i updated, just been super busy. Cycle is going well though, dbol is fucking amazing. Strength is through the roof, only thing is ive gained so much water weight but im ok with that since ill cut after pct anyway, lost a bunch of definition in my shoulders and back still have visible abs and obliques but definitely muddy, but size wise holy shit everything has grown. T shirts fit weird as fuck, super tight on my arms and chest and loose as fuck on my mid section even went up a size and same shit, jeans fit crazy too, baggy in the waist and tight as fuck on my thighs and calves, been wearing sweats and shorts lately cause it sucks wearing anything else haha.... I will say this though, i can feel my body being tired of the cycle, hard to explain but i physically feel like ok glad this is almost over, and i think its simply because ive pushed so hard this whole time, may 26th is my last pin and ill be happy to start pct 2 weeks after that and then cut and see the results, then a couple months later do it again haha. Ill post some pics in June once all is said and done. Havent taken any recently cause im just mass no definition, dbol bloat is real but so are the strength gains lol

[fit_deskjocky]

I will say this though, i can feel my body being tired of the cycle, hard to explain but i physically feel like ok glad this is almost over, and i think its simply because ive pushed so hard this whole time

Right there with you man. I'm physically beat. Think the CNS is taxed as well. My last pin is on Thurs. Looking forward yet not. Not sure if you want to do a cut though. I posted in the Diet and Nutrition section and it was recommended that we don't do a cut post cycle as we'll have a better probability to lose our gains. They recommended to up the intensity and throw in some HIIT

[Richard Cabeza]

Right there with you man. I'm physically beat. Think the CNS is taxed as well. My last pin is on Thurs. Looking forward yet not. Not sure if you want to do a cut though. I posted in the Diet and Nutrition section and it was recommended that we don't do a cut post cycle as we'll have a better probability to lose our gains. They recommended to up the intensity and throw in some HIIT

Im going to cut after pct not during, probably a few weeks after is when ill start my cut.... definitely feeling taxed like you said and its a conflict cause i want to be done but not like you said haha i still have a month left so itll be interesting to see how i feel when im at the point you are now

[Richard Cabeza]

Pct sucks... like seriously sucks. I was good for the 2 weeks up to pct but im a week into my clomid and nolvadex and fuck i feel so unmotivated. My body hasnt changed which is great well actually i wont say that, ill say i lost a bunch of water i was holding on to and so i look a little less full but all in all im happy with the way thats progressing, its just this feeling of laziness thats killing me all i want to do all day is lay on the couch

[Couchlock]

Pct sucks... like seriously sucks. I was good for the 2 weeks up to pct but im a week into my clomid and nolvadex and fuck i feel so unmotivated. My body hasnt changed which is great well actually i wont say that, ill say i lost a bunch of water i was holding on to and so i look a little less full but all in all im happy with the way thats progressing, its just this feeling of laziness thats killing me all i want to do all day is lay on the couch

Damn I am sorry to hear that.

Take some energy stuff. Drinks, vitamin c & b , etc. Enjoy the weather