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Thread: Who cruises and how much?

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    Who cruises and how much?

    So I just finished a cycle of Mast, Test, EQ, and NPP with the last month also having t3, clen , and Var.

    Went something like this -
    First third
    Sust 500mg/wk
    Tren 400mg/wk
    Mast 400mg/wk

    Second third
    Sust 400mg/wk
    NPP 350mg/wk
    Mast 400mg/wk
    EQ 500mg/wk

    Third third
    Sust 400mg/wk
    NPP 350mg/wk
    Mast 400mg/wk
    EQ 400mg/wk
    Anavar 50mg/ed
    T3 50mcg/ed
    Clen 60mcg/ed


    My question is, when you start getting into cycles like mine with lots of compounds and rotating, when you come off and cruise, What do you cruise on and how much of it do you use. I was planning and cruising on 500mg of Test a week. Thoughts?

    My goal was to cut 15lbs and retain muscle, which I think I did pretty well at. Could probably still drop another 10lbs.

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    I usually just cruise on 250mg of test and do alright. Next time I’ll probably lower the test (or not) and add in some primo around 300mg
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    I just go back to my TRT dose of 80-100mg of test C.

    I think at your level of development that 200mg of test C would be plenty to cruise on.

    great job on your cut!!

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    I doubt you'd need more than 200mg Test or 100mg Test + 200mg EQ/Primo with your frame.

    Continuing Cutting at your size doesn't really make sense to me.

    Someone else's cruise isn't really relevant to your own needs. For example if you copied my HRT cruise you'd either end up bankrupt or very sick or both.
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    Thanks deadlift. Yeah I'm pretty sure my T levels would still be above the normal range on 500mg a week so I think I'll drop it to the 200s or so.

    I forgot to ask, how long do you guys cruise for before starting up again?

    or since I just read Windex post which makes sense

    Why do you saying continuing cutting doesn't make sense to you? I think I agree with you but I would like to hear your reasoning's
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    There's no magical number of weeks to transition from cruise to cycle. In this space you simply cannot give blanket statements everyone is different. You need to use bloodwork and be in tune with your body to recognize when it's smart to transition.

    This is how people get trapped because they cut corners and don't do bloodwork to monitor themselves and end up getting burned.
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    Ok I understand that but what am I looking for in blood work?

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    Healthy lipids for several months.
    Good blood pressure too.
    A healthy liver is always nice.

    Cruising at 500mg of test isn't gonna be good for you in the long run IMO.

    People tend to think that coming off a cycle for a month or two is all they need health wise.
    Hell, a month later at your cycle doses I bet your lipids will still be shitty.

    So if you cycle for 3 months and come off for 2 then you will have shitty health for 4 out of 5 months or 80% of the year.
    Shit will catch up to all of us sooner or later.

    (For the record, I do admit that I am of the less is more crowd. I have never ran a cycle like your last one.)
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    Well I have been on BP meds for years which control my BP very well. I guess I'll get a lipid panel and see what it says. How long after this cycle do you think I should wait to do bloods to make sure everything it out of my system? I don't have insurance right now so doing lots of bloods is simply just not possible right now, need to be very selective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djnuffsaid View Post
    Well I have been on BP meds for years which control my BP very well. I guess I'll get a lipid panel and see what it says. How long after this cycle do you think I should wait to do bloods to make sure everything it out of my system? I don't have insurance right now so doing lots of bloods is simply just not possible right now, need to be very selective.
    I pay less in cash for comprehensive bloods than most people do dealing with copay and final billings. Insurance is a joke.

    If you’re in the US, privatemdlabs is your friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djnuffsaid View Post
    Well I have been on BP meds for years which control my BP very well. I guess I'll get a lipid panel and see what it says. How long after this cycle do you think I should wait to do bloods to make sure everything it out of my system? I don't have insurance right now so doing lots of bloods is simply just not possible right now, need to be very selective.
    I always see discount codes for the American private lab companies. If you can't afford bloodwork then that is a big red flag in this lifestyle.

    I'm sure if you set up a lemonade stand and wore some daisy dukes you could scrounge up enough cash for bloodwork.
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    depends on what your goal is during the cruise. just like your cycle plans are based on goals, your cruise can be different every single time based on what your wanting to accomplish .

    example
    - if you were on a cruise and wanting to bulk. then you could just run 250mg of test and thats it. because you'll be in a big calorie surplus the food is your main 'anabolic ' and you don't need much to cruise on.

    - if you were wanting to cut, then you'd probably need more AAS to cruise on. I'd do like 150mg test and 300mg primo. you don't have the anabolic support from food being your in a deficit so you'll need more drugs.


    - or , maybe your cruising just to give your body a break from androgens and "re sensitize" your receptors . in that case you may not run any test at all and run something like just 300mg of Eq or Primo.

    - or , perhaps your cruising but still wanting to make awesome gains. then you may do a much more advanced cruise like
    150mg test
    4iu HGH
    30iu insulin
    25mg MK677
    40mcg Clen
    75mcg T4

    sounds like a lot of drugs but there is no androgen load here. your still basically off cycle being the only androgen is a low dose of test


    so again there is no cut and dry cruise protocol, its all situation and goal dependent
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    Ok thanks guys

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