LOL! Arlovski can beat Fedor!!!!!

**soo2bhuge** · 04-19-2006, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by USfighterFC

Fedor was hardly rocked in their fight and I knew that would be an argument. Fedor took a punch straight on the nose and it broke. That is being stunned not rocked. You cannot knock someone out from breaking their nose. He came in and ate a straight left if memory serves me and was wobbled. He was more off balance than anything to be knocked back like that. Where as Fujita caught him straight on the temple. Thats a knockout punch. Takahashi is a good coach but your only as good as the guy your teaching. Getting rocked makes the world go round and your equilibrium is totally fvcked. Breaking your nose is breaking your nose.

i didn't know his nose was broken but needless to say he was rocked pretty damn good. he was wobbling and he was going back without any good defense. CroCop didn't capitalize on it. if my memory serves me correctly, he even had an opportunity to knock him out with a high kick, which Fedor didn't even defend.
i'm not arguing the fact that you can't knock somebody out by breaking their nose, but at the same time you're making it sound as if everytime somebody gets hit in the temple then all you have to throw is a jab in order to put them away.

But if a man is that badly rocked, a jab can put him away. When your hurt that bad the slightest hit after that causes the brain to shut down as a security mechanism for your body.

That could be an argument for any kind of punch that connects. after all, the reason people get knocked out is the fact that their brain hits the skull. any punch can do that.
therefore, your argument of being hit on the temple didn't work in the case with Jeremy Horn against Chuck, it wasn't the case with Fedor and Fujita, as well as many others that i can't think of at the moment.

**USfighterFC** · 04-20-2006, 11:15 AM

Well think about this for example....when Mark Kerr made a comeback he fought Yamamoto. He was in a car accident a few days prior and the doc told him any slight head trauma will put him out. Now in that fight Mark took down Yamamoto and his head hit the canvas as he took him down and it was lights out for Kerr. Now people will say "well He hit his head on the hard canvas." I highly doubt that a man who took flush punches from Igor Vovchanchyn NUMEROUS times and was NEVER rocked in his career would go to sleep that quickly. Also Brandon Vera versus Justin Eilers. Eilers took a high kick to the head that knocked the ever loving shit out of him. Now Vera came in and threw a knee that barely connected and Eilers was out like a light. You're right about about Jeremy Horn and Chuck cuz Horn was able to stay in the fight...barely. when he was rocked he would just throw himself to the ground and pull guard. Cro-cop made the mistake of throwing the high kick trying to finish Fedor in a spectacular way. Thats actually his own words right there. He didnt capitalize on it because Fedor wasn't hurt that badly, Fedor still threw a right hand that woulda knocked cro-cop into next week, then cro-cop tried with the LHK that grazed Fedors head but as many people have tried and failed to do with CC was defend that high kick.

**realmxofxnoise** · 04-20-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by USfighterFC

He was lucky he made it to the clinch/ I'm sorry to say that any above average striker would've finished that fight. Fujita has to be one of the worst strikers in the sport. I think thats whats so shocking about it.

There's no question Fujita is not a top striker, but he still landed the strike. It had Fedor for a second but it's Fujita's fault he didn't capitalize on it and partly due to Fedor being smart.

I honestly think if a better striker had done the same (i.e., Cro Cop) Fedor would have had another plan. Just like he did with Cro Cop. He trained Muay Thai and beat him at his own game!

**USfighterFC** · 04-20-2006, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by realmxofxnoise

There's no question Fujita is not a top striker, but he still landed the strike. It had Fedor for a second but it's Fujita's fault he didn't capitalize on it and partly due to Fedor being smart.

I honestly think if a better striker had done the same (i.e., Cro Cop) Fedor would have had another plan. Just like he did with Cro Cop. He trained Muay Thai and beat him at his own game!

Well if your hurt that bad there really is no other option but to clinch. You def dont wanna stand there and slug it out.

**realmxofxnoise** · 04-21-2006, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by USfighterFC

Well if your hurt that bad there really is no other option but to clinch. You def dont wanna stand there and slug it out.

No doubt about that. I was just pointing out the fact that he is very intelligent in the right. Obviously you know this since he's your favorite fighter.

**soo2bhuge** · 04-21-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by USfighterFC

Well think about this for example....when Mark Kerr made a comeback he fought Yamamoto. He was in a car accident a few days prior and the doc told him any slight head trauma will put him out. Now in that fight Mark took down Yamamoto and his head hit the canvas as he took him down and it was lights out for Kerr. Now people will say "well He hit his head on the hard canvas." I highly doubt that a man who took flush punches from Igor Vovchanchyn NUMEROUS times and was NEVER rocked in his career would go to sleep that quickly. Also Brandon Vera versus Justin Eilers. Eilers took a high kick to the head that knocked the ever loving shit out of him. Now Vera came in and threw a knee that barely connected and Eilers was out like a light. You're right about about Jeremy Horn and Chuck cuz Horn was able to stay in the fight...barely. when he was rocked he would just throw himself to the ground and pull guard. Cro-cop made the mistake of throwing the high kick trying to finish Fedor in a spectacular way. Thats actually his own words right there. He didnt capitalize on it because Fedor wasn't hurt that badly, Fedor still threw a right hand that woulda knocked cro-cop into next week, then cro-cop tried with the LHK that grazed Fedors head but as many people have tried and failed to do with CC was defend that high kick.

When you're talking about Mark Kerr, you also have to remember that when he fought Yamamoto, that was not the old Kerr. The old Kerr was on so many AAS and pain killers that even Igor couldn't knock his lights out. Not to take anything away from Kerr, he was a "smashing machine", but the only reason why he was able to take so much punishment was due to the drugs he took. He even said so in the documentary. As far as him knocking himself out, we saw the same with Lindland in the UFC and I'm sure it's one of those things that we can't really explain. it happens. I sure as hell knocked myself out silly for a few seconds here and there when i landed wrong on the mat.