Boxer vs MMA Expert. Who wins? (video)

[scriptfactory]

Seriously, the only guys that talk this way are guys who have never been in a street fight, or guys who simply can not fight. Put a boxer in front of me, his ass is on the ground within 20 seconds. Three gravel fights were with boxers, 2 were gold gloves. They were all dancing around, but they shit themselves when they got to the ground and I had taken away their offense. Some people just don't understand, until you grab ahold of them and they get all wide-eyed.........Not trying to be an ass to the boxing fans in here, just being real and speaking from experience.

Doubt it.

[QuieTSToRM33]

Relax gentlemen.

[scriptfactory]

Relax gentlemen.

You're right.

[abombing]

Ignorant

Watch former boxer Jermemy Willams teach these MMA punks how we kick ass.

http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20034

[Logan13]

Doubt it.

Been there, both in the cage and in the street. You can hate all you want, but it does not change what the facts are.

[ectomorph28]

Been there, both in the cage and in the street. You can hate all you want, but it does not change what the facts are.

That doesnt prove anything. I highly doubt that you can take a boxer with any kind of hand speed. He would knock your head off. The point is boxers, kickboxers, muay thai are better standing up and BJJ, wrestling are better on the ground. Does that make one a better fighter than the other. NOPE. Because there are situations where a fight on the ground will be impractical and you will be forced to stand. However, there will be times where a standup fighter will be on the ground. Who cares? We can go on forever.

Boxers ARENT street fighters. They are in boxing to get away from that because many of them were forced to fight to survive during their childhood. Boxing is an outlet for their aggression. Boxing is a skilled, more controlled combat sport.

Which is more skilled? MMA or boxing? Honestly, id pick boxing. We have high school wrestlers in Sean Sherk, Quinton Rampage who have accomplished nothing in a respective combat sport and yet are UFC champions. Rampage outwrestled Dan Henderson who was a greco roman wrestler in the 1992 and 1996 olympics. Georges St. Pierre outwrestled Josh Koscheck who was a 2 time NCAA wrestling champion. Floyd Mayweather, Ricky Hatton, Winky Wright have been boxing since the age of 3. I dont think people realize how much skill is involved in boxing.

I do enjoy both sports though.

[ectomorph28]

Been there, both in the cage and in the street. You can hate all you want, but it does not change what the facts are.

WHAT FACTS???

[Mogamedogz]

Seriously, the only guys that talk this way are guys who have never been in a street fight, or guys who simply can not fight. Put a boxer in front of me, his ass is on the ground within 20 seconds. Three gravel fights were with boxers, 2 were gold gloves. They were all dancing around, but they shit themselves when they got to the ground and I had taken away their offense. Some people just don't understand, until you grab ahold of them and they get all wide-eyed.........Not trying to be an ass to the boxing fans in here, just being real and speaking from experience.

I’m not debating “who is tougher” (the MMA guy or the boxer). I’m just saying that it takes much more Skill and ability to be a successful Boxer, than it does a MMA fighter. And it's true.

P4P... an inexperienced guy off of the street would have a MUCH better chance of beating BJ Penn in a MMA match, than he would @ beating Floyd Meyweather in a Boxing match. There is a reason for that.

[ectomorph28]

I’m not debating “who is tougher” (the MMA guy or the boxer). I’m just saying that it takes much more Skill and ability to be a successful Boxer, than it does a MMA fighter. And it's true.

P4P... an inexperienced guy off of the street would have a MUCH better chance of beating BJ Penn in a MMA match, than he would @ beating Floyd Meyweather in a Boxing match. There is a reason for that.

As far as "who is tougher" it really is the fighter not the sport. But boxing is the tougher sport physically than MMA. Boxers take an incredible amount of punches over a 12 round fight. In fact on average they take well over 500 punches per fight from the best PUNCHERS in the world. Some have thrown well over 1200 punches in a fight. Boxers suffer short-term damage and long-term damage in their sport.

[Logan13]

As far as "who is tougher" it really is the fighter not the sport. But boxing is the tougher sport physically than MMA. Boxers take an incredible amount of punches over a 12 round fight. In fact on average they take well over 500 punches per fight from the best PUNCHERS in the world. Some have thrown well over 1200 punches in a fight. Boxers suffer short-term damage and long-term damage in their sport.

I hate to break it to you, but boxing has gotten much less prevalent over the last decade and continues to loose viewers to MMA. Now why do you think that is?

[scriptfactory]

I hate to break it to you, but boxing has gotten much less prevalent over the last decade and continues to loose viewers to MMA. Now why do you think that is?

Your arguments are ridiculous. You are calling your personal experiences facts (when you can't even prove that you were in one single fight). You are basing the amount of damage a martial artist might take in a fight on the amount of viewers that watch the respective sports.

You are 5'5" and probably have the wingspan of a gnat so you probably can't box. Would that be affecting your point of view in any way?

[Logan13]

Your arguments are ridiculous. You are calling your personal experiences facts (when you can't even prove that you were in one single fight). You are basing the amount of damage a martial artist might take in a fight on the amount of viewers that watch the respective sports.

You are 5'5" and probably have the wingspan of a gnat so you probably can't box. Would that be affecting your point of view in any way?

Don't need to prove anything. But I am still interested in how you base your opinions, read alot of books have ya? Fact is, boxing is one of many parts of the MMA arsenal. Boxing has, well, boxing. You want to tell me that a lone boxer is going to have good takedown defense? If your answer is "yes, than I can only deduce that you simply do not know, what you simply do not know. Again, hating does not change the facts. Hating simply shows how little one has accomplished.

[scriptfactory]

Don't need to prove anything. But I am still interested in how you base your opinions, read alot of books have ya? Fact is, boxing is one of many parts of the MMA arsenal. Boxing has, well, boxing. You want to tell me that a lone boxer is going to have good takedown defense? If your answer is "yes, than I can only deduce that you simply do not know, what you simply do not know. Again, hating does not change the facts. Hating simply shows how little one has accomplished.

I just don't think you've been in any street fights, especially with a boxer. Why don't you post a picture with your head blanked out? Maybe show some of your scars? Any way to prove your "facts" about all of your "gravel fights."

[bRKBEATz]

And this is why I will ALWAYS prefer watching a great boxing match.

Dont get me wrong. I enjoy MMA (i've been watching UFC since before it was cool to watch UFC)... But Championship boxing will always be #1 in my house.

I like the fact that there is a CLEAR #1, and that other "up and coming" fighters have to strive to overtake them.

That's a matter of opinion. I personally like to watch a sport where the underdog always has a decent chance.

Again, MMA is a sport with a lot of variables, and in which many of unique and unpredictable situations can occur. This will result in more erratic records for the top fighters.

However, this is NOT not proof that boxing takes more skill. In my opinion, the only way to compare what sport takes the most skill is not based on the physical logistics on how the sport is performed, but rather how many people participate in that sport.

For example, it's a clearly harder to be the top basketball player in the world than the top dodgeball player. This is because you need to be the best out of millions rather than the best out of thousands.

So in my mind, the real question is: how many people practice boxing and how many people practice MMA?

[Mogamedogz]

Again, MMA is a sport with a lot of variables, and in which many of unique and unpredictable situations can occur. This will result in more erratic records for the top fighters.

AKA... there is much more LUCK involved in MMA. This may make the sport more exciting (for some), but to me it is a glaring example of how it takes less skill to win a MMA contest. (P4P) A guy “off of the street” will ALWAYS have a better chance at beating Rampage Jackson in MMA, than he would at beating Floyd Meyweather Jr in a boxing match. This is NOT coincidence.

However, this is NOT proof that boxing takes more skill.

In my opinion, the only way to compare what sport takes the most skill is not based on the physical logistics on how the sport is performed, but rather how many people participate in that sport.

For example, it's a clearly harder to be the top basketball player in the world than the top dodge ball player. This is because you need to be the best out of millions rather than the best out of thousands.

So in my mind, the real question is: how many people practice boxing and how many people practice MMA?

No offense. But that is a HORRIBLE example.

The reason it is harder to become a world class Basketball player, than it is a world class Dodge ball player, has NOTHING to do with the number of people who play the sports.

It is harder to be a world class B-ball player, because it takes MUCH MORE ATHLETIC SKILL/TALENT to do it!!

It is MUCH easier for the average “Joe Smoe” to practice their way to becoming a great Dodge ball player, than it is for them to practice their way into the NBA!!

How many people do something... has absolutely NOTHING to do with how many people become WORLD CLASS doing it.

The cream always rises to the top of any sport. The numbers have ZERO relevance in this discussion.

[godkilla]

does boxing take more skill then mma? maybe, maybe not, thats debatable. one thing thats not debatable is that i need to set my ****ing alarm clock when i watch 12 rnds of 2 men pawing at each other trying to inflict friction burn with an over sized red leather glove.

[Diamonite]

Both take such damn skill. Boxing is such a part of "Mix Martial Arts" anyways. But these new MMA fighters are beasts. Taking strikers from UFC and PRIDE and K1 against pro boxers in a boxing match would be fun IMO.

[ectomorph28]

I hate to break it to you, but boxing has gotten much less prevalent over the last decade and continues to loose viewers to MMA. Now why do you think that is?

I dont get what you're trying to prove. How about we review this years PPV's. Boxing is actually beating MMA in PPVs this year. Boxings largest gate was 18 million. The biggest UFC gate is around 4 million. Boxings not losing its fans to MMA. Many of the MMA fans are completely new to the fight game in general. THere largest demographic are white males aged 18-30. Boxings big demographic in North America include a large hispanic population as well as inner cities and and a portion of caucasian males.

Hatton/Mayweather sold out within 30 minutes. They are now adding 30,000 additional closed circuit seats around Las Vegas casinos. This is for one FIGHT. Boxing has made alot of managerial mistakes but for it to still be going strong is attributed to the sport and its hardcore fanbase.

Boxing has survived 2 world wars, the depression, boxing is going to be here forever with or without the popularity of MMA.

[ectomorph28]

Don't need to prove anything. But I am still interested in how you base your opinions, read alot of books have ya? Fact is, boxing is one of many parts of the MMA arsenal. Boxing has, well, boxing. You want to tell me that a lone boxer is going to have good takedown defense? If your answer is "yes, than I can only deduce that you simply do not know, what you simply do not know. Again, hating does not change the facts. Hating simply shows how little one has accomplished.

The thing is MMA does not do BOXING. They punch. There are many aspects to boxing such as bobbing, weaving, parrying, countering, head and foot movement, ring generalship, chin, arsenal of punches. Also, MMA throw predominantly 1s and 2s ie) jabs and straights. They do not throw an arsenal of punches and simply cannot throw combinations. Also they completely avoid aspects of boxing such as ring generalship ie) cutting the ring off and body punching. Body punching is a huge part of boxing but in MMA its nonexistent.

The bottom line is both sports are different. There is not one fighter in MMA who can even beat an average at best boxer. Boxers are the best, most powerful, accurate and fastest punchers in the world. Hands down. They are content with that.

Chris Lytle, Marcus Davis, Alessio Sakara were all former Pro Boxers who were at AVERAGE AT BEST. They go to MMA and all 3 of them are arguably among the top 10 in their weight class or at least on the cusp of it. This with less than a few years of MMA training.

I cant say the same about MMA fighters in boxing.

[abombing]

This is the stupidest thread. What is one of the first things the "boxer" does? He takes the guy down. Obviously he is no longer just a boxer he is a mma fighter now. The other guy is throwing some lame kicks, does that make him a taekwondo guy?

[ectomorph28]

Both take such damn skill. Boxing is such a part of "Mix Martial Arts" anyways. But these new MMA fighters are beasts. Taking strikers from UFC and PRIDE and K1 against pro boxers in a boxing match would be fun IMO.

It wouldnt be fun because it would be a massacre. K-1, UFC, PRIDE whatever would get demolished in a boxing match. However, in a pure striking match id favour the best muay thai fighter over a boxer or kickboxer. However, you cant underestimate the boxers dynamic handspeed.

[ectomorph28]

does boxing take more skill then mma? maybe, maybe not, thats debatable. one thing thats not debatable is that i need to set my ****ing alarm clock when i watch 12 rnds of 2 men pawing at each other trying to inflict friction burn with an over sized red leather glove.

I feel the same way when watching two guys "lay and pray" in MMA or when two amateur level strikers like Koscheck/Sanchez slap each other for 15 minutes. You get bad fights in both sports. But in my opinion id gladly take a Micky Ward/Arturo Gatti fight over the best fight in MMA. In fact it wouldnt be close.

[Diamonite]

How can you be so biased? I'm not even going to argue.

[ectomorph28]

How can you be so biased? I'm not even going to argue.

Im not being biased. In fact in an anything goes standup fight id favour a muay thai fighter over anybody else.

However in boxing, its a different story. The top K-1 fighters have gone to boxing ie) Mighty Mo and he got his jaw broken and lost to a no name journeyman boxer. Ray Sefo I believe also tried his hand in boxing with very little success.

[rockinred]

Im not being biased. In fact in an anything goes standup fight id favour a muay thai fighter over anybody else.

However in boxing, its a different story. The top K-1 fighters have gone to boxing ie) Mighty Mo and he got his jaw broken and lost to a no name journeyman boxer. Ray Sefo I believe also tried his hand in boxing with very little success.

Wow, this thread blew up into all kinds of debates... I have to agree with the muay thai or kickboxer for standup... it is the true combination of hand a feet work at a peak level. even so, I still think a good boxing match is more entertaining then kickboxing matches... why? I don't know... boxing is in my blood i guess.

Had a buddy who was into kickboxing and he came over threw on some gloves and sparred around with just boxing.... we then switched up to his sport and i quit real quick.. nothing fun about getting kicked in the legs, elbows, shins, forearems were killing me.. I thought man, this stuff sucks but, since he played my sport of boxing I figured I had to do his..lol... believe me kickboxing is nothing like tai kwan do or other martial arts that use kicking as a self defense... totally different.

[ectomorph28]

Wow, this thread blew up into all kinds of debates... I have to agree with the muay thai or kickboxer for standup... it is the true combination of hand a feet work at a peak level. even so, I still think a good boxing match is more entertaining then kickboxing matches... why? I don't know... boxing is in my blood i guess.

Had a buddy who was into kickboxing and he came over threw on some gloves and sparred around with just boxing.... we then switched up to his sport and i quit real quick.. nothing fun about getting kicked in the legs, elbows, shins, forearems were killing me.. I thought man, this stuff sucks but, since he played my sport of boxing I figured I had to do his..lol... believe me kickboxing is nothing like tai kwan do or other martial arts that use kicking as a self defense... totally different.

I totally agree. Ive done both boxing, kickboxing and muay thai. Muay Thai I think has the advantage over kickboxing because of some variables that just arent utilized in kickboxing ie) muay thai clinch etc.. I will say this being a boxer teaches you specialized techniques in punching which is a HUGE advantage when making the transition to kickboxing. For example, I started boxing first and continue to do it but when I went to a kickboxing club they worked SOLELY on kicks. My hands were already among the best there despite me being in boxing for only half a year. boxers would have an easier transition to kickboxing, muay thai as opposed to the opposite.

And I agree, I enjoy watching boxing moreso than any other combat sport. I enjoy Thailand Muay Thai, K-1 etc. I also follow MMA closely as well. Its funny because the UFC opened my eyes to other combat sports and now MMA is not even among my preferences for combat sports.

[pepperoni]

The thing is MMA does not do BOXING. They punch. There are many aspects to boxing such as bobbing, weaving, parrying, countering, head and foot movement, ring generalship, chin, arsenal of punches. Also, MMA throw predominantly 1s and 2s ie) jabs and straights. They do not throw an arsenal of punches and simply cannot throw combinations. Also they completely avoid aspects of boxing such as ring generalship ie) cutting the ring off and body punching. Body punching is a huge part of boxing but in MMA its nonexistent.

The bottom line is both sports are different. There is not one fighter in MMA who can even beat an average at best boxer. Boxers are the best, most powerful, accurate and fastest punchers in the world. Hands down. They are content with that.

Chris Lytle, Marcus Davis, Alessio Sakara were all former Pro Boxers who were at AVERAGE AT BEST. They go to MMA and all 3 of them are arguably among the top 10 in their weight class or at least on the cusp of it. This with less than a few years of MMA training.

I cant say the same about MMA fighters in boxing.

I wouldnt put any of these three guys in the top ten of their weight classes.

[Diamonite]

Don't even bother pepperoni.

[zimmy]

The thing is MMA does not do BOXING. They punch. There are many aspects to boxing such as bobbing, weaving, parrying, countering, head and foot movement, ring generalship, chin, arsenal of punches. Also, MMA throw predominantly 1s and 2s ie) jabs and straights. They do not throw an arsenal of punches and simply cannot throw combinations. Also they completely avoid aspects of boxing such as ring generalship ie) cutting the ring off and body punching. Body punching is a huge part of boxing but in MMA its nonexistent.

The bottom line is both sports are different. There is not one fighter in MMA who can even beat an average at best boxer. Boxers are the best, most powerful, accurate and fastest punchers in the world. Hands down. They are content with that.

Chris Lytle, Marcus Davis, Alessio Sakara were all former Pro Boxers who were at AVERAGE AT BEST. They go to MMA and all 3 of them are arguably among the top 10 in their weight class or at least on the cusp of it. This with less than a few years of MMA training.

I cant say the same about MMA fighters in boxing.

um... arguably amonth the top 10...not so much.

This thread is a bit retarded...for the umteenth time... BOXING IS NOT MMA AND MMA IS NOT BOXING. For f*ck sake...they are NOTHING alike. Can't compare them. Boxing doesnt have to worry about take downs or knees or kicks at all so they of course are going to have better head movement and combo's.

If you spent some time training with people who do more than stand up.. you'd know that
1) you can't bob too much because you will bob yourself right into a kick or a throw since you're off balance

and

2) you can't do multipunch combo's because while you are trying to land 3 , 4 , and 5... you are wrapped up and being stalled or taken to the ground unless you were lucky to rock them on the first 2.

not saying mma is better or that they would win... just saying from what i KNOW ... since i trained this style.. i wouldn't comment on what mma fighters do in boxing since i don't know sh*t from shine in boxing...this thread would read alot better if people did the same and didn't talk like experts about sh*t they barely even know.

[bRKBEATz]

AKA... there is much more LUCK involved in MMA. This may make the sport more exciting (for some), but to me it is a glaring example of how it takes less skill to win a MMA contest. (P4P) A guy “off of the street” will ALWAYS have a better chance at beating Rampage Jackson in MMA, than he would at beating Floyd Meyweather Jr in a boxing match. This is NOT coincidence.

Sorry but luck is NOT the opposite of skill. It is very possible for a sport to have more luck involved and also require more skill.

I'll use a strange example to prove my point. I'm sure many of you are familiar with Texas Hold'em. Let's compare limit with no-limit.

Everyone agrees that a no-limit game takes more skill. There are more variables involved and many more situations that can occur. The amount that you must bet or call can vary which adds a new and very significant element to the game. Therefore, in order for a player to be the best no-limit player his skill set needs to be much broader than a limit player. However, there is also more luck involved in a no-limit game. You can catch a bad card on the river and lose every chip you had.

Limit poker, on the other hand takes less skill than no-limit because you can only bet and raise by standard amounts. This drastically reduces the amount of situations that a limit player needs to be prepared for. However, there is also less luck involved in a limit game of poker. If 2 poker players are mismatched, the better limit player will ALWAYS win.

If you haven't caught on by now, I am comparing no-limit poker to MMA, and limit poker to Boxing. Although there is more luck involved in MMA, that does not make it a less skillful sport.

LUCK IS NOT THE OPPOSITE OF SKILL

No offense. But that is a HORRIBLE example.

The reason it is harder to become a world class Basketball player, than it is a world class Dodge ball player, has NOTHING to do with the number of people who play the sports.

It is harder to be a world class B-ball player, because it takes MUCH MORE ATHLETIC SKILL/TALENT to do it!!

It is MUCH easier for the average “Joe Smoe” to practice their way to becoming a great Dodge ball player, than it is for them to practice their way into the NBA!!

How many people do something... has absolutely NOTHING to do with how many people become WORLD CLASS doing it.

The cream always rises to the top of any sport. The numbers have ZERO relevance in this discussion.

No.

I'm sure it would be tremendously hard to become the worlds best dodgeball player if it were as popular as basketball.

On the other hand, it would be quite easy to become the worlds best basketball player if it were as popular as dodgeball.

Becoming the BEST IN THE WORLD at anything is hard, and is really based on your competition more than the sport itself.

[Logan13]

um... arguably amonth the top 10...not so much.

This thread is a bit retarded...for the umteenth time... BOXING IS NOT MMA AND MMA IS NOT BOXING. For f*ck sake...they are NOTHING alike. Can't compare them. Boxing doesnt have to worry about take downs or knees or kicks at all so they of course are going to have better head movement and combo's.

If you spent some time training with people who do more than stand up.. you'd know that
1) you can't bob too much because you will bob yourself right into a kick or a throw since you're off balance

and

2) you can't do multipunch combo's because while you are trying to land 3 , 4 , and 5... you are wrapped up and being stalled or taken to the ground unless you were lucky to rock them on the first 2.

not saying mma is better or that they would win... just saying from what i KNOW ... since i trained this style.. i wouldn't comment on what mma fighters do in boxing since i don't know sh*t from shine in boxing...this thread would read alot better if people did the same and didn't talk like experts about sh*t they barely even know.

Zimmy, who would win in the fight: A football player or a hockey player...
But in all seriousness, I sincerely doubt that many who have given their opinions in here actually have the background to do so. This I find funny.

[ectomorph28]

I wouldnt put any of these three guys in the top ten of their weight classes.

Well they are at least on the cusp of it. Davis is on a winning streak and Lytle has gone to a decision with two welterweight champs in Hughes and Serra. Sure he got massacred by Hughes but to go to a decision with Hughes after having only a couple of years of MMA experience is quite exceptional. Sakara was killing McFedries but made a mistake and lost late in the 1st round.

Oh, and I didnt mean to sound like a prick. I have tons of respect for BJJ, wrestling and all other combat sports. In fact, I think BJJ is absolutely incredible at its highest level. The flexibility, intelligence, patience that these guys possess is phenomenal.

[ectomorph28]

um... arguably amonth the top 10...not so much.

This thread is a bit retarded...for the umteenth time... BOXING IS NOT MMA AND MMA IS NOT BOXING. For f*ck sake...they are NOTHING alike. Can't compare them. Boxing doesnt have to worry about take downs or knees or kicks at all so they of course are going to have better head movement and combo's.

If you spent some time training with people who do more than stand up.. you'd know that
1) you can't bob too much because you will bob yourself right into a kick or a throw since you're off balance

and

2) you can't do multipunch combo's because while you are trying to land 3 , 4 , and 5... you are wrapped up and being stalled or taken to the ground unless you were lucky to rock them on the first 2.

not saying mma is better or that they would win... just saying from what i KNOW ... since i trained this style.. i wouldn't comment on what mma fighters do in boxing since i don't know sh*t from shine in boxing...this thread would read alot better if people did the same and didn't talk like experts about sh*t they barely even know.

Couture, Koscheck and others have bobbed and weaved to victories over Sylvia and Sanchez respectively. Simple head movements, slipping, timely bobbing and weaving would do MMA fighters alot of good. Fedor, Noguiera train extensively in boxing. Why would they train in boxing if many of boxings key concepts of defense supposedly dont work in MMA.

To be fair, its almost impossible to land multi-punch combos in boxing because of their ability to counter and slip punches.

[zimmy]

HAHAH... against sylvia and sanchez? LOL seriously..i understand you seem to be very partial on your opinions...but please... sylvia doesn't know sh*t in terms of kicking OR bjj / takedowns...so slipping against him works WONDERS.... and that sanchez fight he was trained with a boxer and seemed to decide he wasn't going to do anything but box...so those are HORRIBLE examples. seriously...have you trained any ground or are you only going on the opinions of training only stand up?

[Logan13]

seriously...have you trained any ground or are you only going on the opinions of training only stand up?

the latter........

[KRAZYPITBULL]

does boxing take more skill then mma? maybe, maybe not, thats debatable. one thing thats not debatable is that i need to set my ****ing alarm clock when i watch 12 rnds of 2 men pawing at each other trying to inflict friction burn with an over sized red leather glove.

Now thats funny...

[MeanMachine2000]

Boxers that train mma obviously have an advantage at striking,Depending on how quickly they learn some ground work will determine how successful they will be in mma.Throw a boxer in the cage just striking ,he most likely will lose.I say most likely because hey punchers always have a chance, though it is slim.I would love to see tyson in his prime fight alexander houston...that would be a brawl...

Houston Alexander Currently has a terrible ground game so lets just go ahead and take that out of the equation. He is a stand up fighter no doubt. Tyson in his prime would tear him apart

[QuieTSToRM33]

here we go again ... why would you bump this thread to say "now that's funny" ?????

[abombing]

Man, I though we were done with this stupid thread.

[1819]

I hate to break it to you, but boxing has gotten much less prevalent over the last decade and continues to loose viewers to MMA. Now why do you think that is?

boxers are still earning retarded amounts of money. you are never gonna see a mma fighter command 30 million for a fight. any given week in this country there are dozens of pro boxing matches around the country/world. the mma schedule is mighty thin. mma has a tremendous cult following but the truth is it is not even close to boxing. i do this for a living so i know what i'm talking about. go to fight news and look at the schedule for the month. tell me what is more popular. as far as the who would win crap. it is a pointless arguement. it's 2 different sports. i played hockey for a living. who is a better athlete? me or a football player? makes no sense. i do think that alot of people arguing the mma side assume that boxers never street fought. ya think mike tyson never got in a fight growing up? please. also i hear alot of "i train" or "we train" and "i did this". last i checked we were talking about world class athletes not some guys who take mma classes in their spare time. i respect any and everyone who gets in the ring or octagon but there are some guys on here that just have no clue. not meaning you logan. i just happen to pick your quote because of the subject.