Fedor Vs. Tim Sylvia Confirmed

[rush_604]

Where the hell does Tim train? maybe he should get with the Liddell or GSP camp so he can get a little more SNAP behind those jabs. jabs can be effective as hell!!! Tommy Hearns, Lennox Lewis, "Ali" The Greatest.....that was their bread and butter!!

With Pat Miletich. His camp has produced many champions so I dont no what your talking about

[Synyster]

With Pat Miletich. His camp has produced many champions so I dont no what your talking about

RUSH RUSH RUSH!! brotha.... go back and read. i didnt speak ill of the miletich camp. those dudes are monsters out there. im speaking SPECIFICALLY about tim sylvia and his jab. he has a darn good one. but id would be nice to see him use it at 100% during a match. he could win on his jab alone if he just put a little more SNAP behind it.

[rush_604]

Alright my bad. I thought you said he basically needs a new training camp cause this one is no good

[Synyster]

theres a camp out there for every fighter. you have have to get in the one that helps you bring out your natural ability. examples......
Kimbo in the Gracie Camp(NO WAY!!)
Josh Koshchek in the Anderson Silva camp(WONT HAPPEN!!)

see what i saying?

[rush_604]

theres a camp out there for every fighter. you have have to get in the one that helps you bring out your natural ability. examples......
Kimbo in the Gracie Camp(NO WAY!!)
Josh Koshchek in the Anderson Silva camp(WONT HAPPEN!!)

see what i saying?

I think Koscheck would do awesome in Silva's camp. The Nog's can teach him some BJJ that would go very, very well with his already awesome wrestling. Whats the main thing Koscheck is lacking? His stand up. Who better to teach him some Muay Thai than one of the best strikers in the game

[Synyster]

i dont know man. i guess its never too late to learn a trade. lol!!!! lets change that!!!
Mark Coleman in A. Silva's camp...... LOL!!!!!!

[rush_604]

Mark Colemans exact same thing as Josh a wrestler. He can benefit from all the BJJ and Striking

[BG]

Sylvia did juice at one time and was suspended by the UFC several years ago for testing positive for AAS.

While I believe Fedor is a much better fighter than Sylvia (of whom I personally don't like), styles make fights. This isn't a good matchup for Fedor. 1st because he's a ground specialist (superior sub game and tremendous gnp), but Tim has probably the best take down defense in the game (aside from Chuck). Now I know Randy took him down frequently but IMO Randy is a better pure wrestler than Fedor. 2nd, Tim's height ad the size of the octagon will allow Tim to jab and move much more effectively than in a ring. So as long as Tim can keep Fedor at distance with his jab and a few well placed high kicks and leg kicks, I think he can eak out a victory in a long boring match.

I smell an upset, but I would love to see Fedor rush Sylvia early, take him down, and beat the shit out of his ass. But I don't think that's Fedor's style. He much more calculated than that.

As far as the AAS, thats what I was saying, that fight was the most aggressive Ive ever seen Sylvia, he's going to need to be to last, or he will get picked apart imo. Now saying Randy is a better wrestler then Fedor, I dont know about that, both do it very well, but Fedor has taking down guys twice the size that Randy has. If you go back and look he worked everybody that he locked up with (except Randleman .....but we know what happened after that slam and Crocop did well but he fuc ran from Fedor swinging that hammer/back fist hoping to get lucky). Now Mir subbed him easly, he gave that arm right up...which we know is Fedors bread and butter.

Imo.....Fedor by KO...Sylvia is going to eat his words...maybe some teeth.


(please Fedor dont let me down like evryone else that I pick has !!!!!!!!!!) LOL


BTW someone should start a poll thread.

[jonny101]

LoL at tim havin no ground game. How do you come up with this? Just because he got subbed by Nog?

Jus like somebody said Monson an ADCC champ couldnt submit him

that was me

[J-Dogg]

A lot of guys that dominated in pride are not doing so well in the US. I honestly feel that Pride set fights, paid people to loose. It was ran by Japannanesse criminals and funded the same way. And trust me, I am a HUGE pride fan, IMO the fights were so much more exciting. The chute style fighters were so impressive, Cro Crop’s kicks would go right though a 12” oak tree and Fedor was an unstoppable juggernaut.

With that being said though, Cro Crop can’t seem to win a fight. Wandy who was undefeated for 5 years in pride could not beat Tito in UFC 47 and had a ******* attempt at Liddel recently. Shogun was impossible to beat for a LHW and he lost to Forrest.
I’m not taking anything away from Fedor, but I’m not going to be shocked if Tim beats him. I was shocked at everything else, but am not going to be over this.
Rampage has mentioned in interviews and radio chats that pride “created” fighters like Wandy. He has also mentioned that he has been offered money to take a dive in pride, but refused.

[Pooks]

I think specifically u are thinking of Cro-Cop when u say "most pride fighters"

The cage kills his game apparently.. no good grappling skills.. and his opponents have out-weighted him.. they push him against that cage and the minutes in the round just tick away.. BORING.

that does not happen to him, in the ring.

He was actually doing alright in that first round with Kongo... just broke his rib later on.. and sucked from that point on. He did decimate Eddie Sanchez.. who beat that Australian Goon at UFC a few events ago..

Gonzaga fight.. got caught with those elbows.. Cro-Cop lost that one, no excuses there.

He has also lost to Randleman, Nog, mark hunt, and Fedor... i think thats it for losses in MMA..

so losses do happen.

I think Randleman, and Gonzaga are the only ones that knocked him out.. all other losses were in decision. Nog sumbitted him lin the last round i think all this is off the top of my head.

[fdrx7man]

With Pat Miletich. His camp has produced many champions so I dont no what your talking about

yeah he trains with pat! pats a great guy!

[prealdeal]

[QUOTE=J-Dogg;3922112]A lot of guys that dominated in pride are not doing so well in the US. I honestly feel that Pride set fights, paid people to loose. It was ran by Japannanesse criminals and funded the same way. And trust me, I am a HUGE pride fan, IMO the fights were so much more exciting. The chute style fighters were so impressive, Cro Crop’s kicks would go right though a 12” oak tree and Fedor was an unstoppable juggernaut.

With that being said though, Cro Crop can’t seem to win a fight. Wandy who was undefeated for 5 years in pride could not beat Tito in UFC 47 and had a ******* attempt at Liddel recently. Shogun was impossible to beat for a LHW and he lost to Forrest.
I’m not taking anything away from Fedor, but I’m not going to be shocked if Tim beats him. I was shocked at everything else, but am not going to be over this.
Rampage has mentioned in interviews and radio chats that pride “created” fighters like Wandy. He has also mentioned that he has been offered money to take a dive in pride, but refused.[/QUOTE


very interesting points but i would be shocked if fedor lost

[sprawlbrawl]

i agree with everything that you are saying about tim. but the fight is going to have 3 x 5 min rounds and for tim that is a great thing, because although he rarely finishes a guy he has a nack for staying away and not loosing. and in a timed fight that is a pretty effictive stratagy for the fighter. we as fans are the ones who loose out, hence the reason that tim has no fan support. i avoid the payperviews if he is on the main card b/c i know what im going to get.

couldnt agree more

[sprawlbrawl]

pride has a rep that the fighters dont do all that great in the UFC. well i think thats bullshyt because two current UFC belt holders are former pride fighters. we all know who they are.....

how can u say that because before they were in pride they were in cage rage and king of the cage so i mean come on and who knows what show before thatand they are the only two and they are great fighters i love em both everyone else got beat and usually beat bad

[Synyster]

hey i didnt say that shit!!! im just tell you what im reading in some of these forums. alot of good guys came and are coming from pride.

[sprawlbrawl]

LoL at tim havin no ground game. How do you come up with this? Just because he got subbed by Nog?

Jus like somebody said Monson an ADCC champ couldnt submit him

you guys make it sound like tim is agood ground fighter he has takedown defence and little bit of submission defence.monson is so ****in short he couldnt get the take down,once he did he was so gased he couldnt hold him down and tim got up and stayed up and sprawled the rest of the fight if you see a ground game there well you see something i dont

[lotaquestions]

tims limbs are extremely long and he is not that strong (but yes powerful) wich makes him susceptable to submissions. though i dont think that his ground game is great, i do think that it is average for a heavyweight.

[jonny101]

you guys make it sound like tim is agood ground fighter he has takedown defence and little bit of submission defence.monson is so ****in short he couldnt get the take down,once he did he was so gased he couldnt hold him down and tim got up and stayed up and sprawled the rest of the fight if you see a ground game there well you see something i dont

fair enough he is short but if he's "too short" to beat the champ why be in that weight division???he has beaten alot of big guys?
as for saying he hasnt got a ground game i ask
How can someone who has been training with Pat militich Matt hughes and Jeremy horn for YEARS (2name a few)
o and randy couture not have a good ground game??? to even imply that is just ignarant,we might not of seen it that much but come on be serious

[sprawlbrawl]

fair enough he is short but if he's "too short" to beat the champ why be in that weight division???he has beaten alot of big guys?
as for saying he hasnt got a ground game i ask
How can someone who has been training with Pat militich Matt hughes and Jeremy horn for YEARS (2name a few)
o and randy couture not have a good ground game??? to even imply that is just ignarant,we might not of seen it that much but come on be serious

actually i am seriuos first im not monson so dont know why he is in that divison,but show me a fight were tim has or used a ground game nog subed him he got hes arm broke by meir all i seen him do is sprawl and brawl he might roll in practice but he doesnt seem to be very good at it

[rush_604]

actually i am seriuos first im not monson so dont know why he is in that divison,but show me a fight were tim has or used a ground game nog subed him he got hes arm broke by meir all i seen him do is sprawl and brawl he might roll in practice but he doesnt seem to be very good at it

You've never seen him because hes a stand up fighter and doesnt go to the ground. I know hes no crazy grappler or anything like that. But to see he has no ground game and will get subbed right away is ridiculous. Who did he get subbed by, Nog and Mir. Argueably two of the best MMA submission artists.

[jonny101]

actually i am seriuos first im not monson so dont know why he is in that divison,but show me a fight were tim has or used a ground game nog subed him he got hes arm broke by meir all i seen him do is sprawl and brawl he might roll in practice but he doesnt seem to be very good at it

two submissions and he's no good on the ground???
by that logic your saying that chuck lidell most be garbage on the floor as wel,all he does is sprawl and brawl?but we cant judge that because we havent seen it!
i agree with rush 1000% that Nog and Mir are two of the best.as for the nog gullitine alot of good ground fighters have been subd by him lol,tim was destroying him before that.
gsp got arm bard by matt hughes but no1 ever said he had a bad ground game???and that was b4 we had seen it

[BgMc31]

I'm by no means a MMA expert, simply a fan, but I have a question...wouldn't someone as tall as sylvia be at a great disadvantage on the ground? With his long arms and legs, does not give someone a greater area to grab for a submission?

[jonny101]

I'm by no means a MMA expert, simply a fan, but I have a question...wouldn't someone as tall as sylvia be at a great disadvantage on the ground? With his long arms and legs, does not give someone a greater area to grab for a submission?

yes and no,he's arms n legs r long but that helps for him 2 posture up or pull guard

[lotaquestions]

he was also subd by arlovskie but he has survived ground attacks by a lot of great fighters. so i dont know how any one can say that he has no ground game. his JJ may be his weakest link but it is still better than most heavyweights and especially any one aroun 6'8

[jonny101]

he was also subd by arlovskie but he has survived ground attacks by a lot of great fighters. so i dont know how any one can say that he has no ground game. his JJ may be his weakest link but it is still better than most heavyweights and especially any one aroun 6'8

totaly agree

[Synyster]

yeah but tim is still gonna get his ass kicked. let us all just face the facts.

[jonny101]

yeah but tim is still gonna get his ass kicked. let us all just face the facts.

lol he probly will dnt get me wrong i hate tim lol i just dnt under estimate people that clearly can cause problems

[Synyster]

a tisket, a tasket....tims gonna get his ass kicked!!!