Help with Kickboxing and training....

[energizer bunny]

Alreet lads/lasses, hope you can give me a few ideas on how to get the best out of my training time.

Ive started kickboxing a couple of weeks ago on a monday and friday, im realy enjoying it!! im going to start a lesson called combat conditioning hopefully on a wednesday very soon, this will include circuit,interval training, bag work etc..

that leaves me with 2 days tue and thur for another type of traing, i.e weights, kettle bels...etc etc

Any suggestions, different ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!!

[WARMachine]

tell me your acutally at a Muay Thai gym and not a cardio kickboxing class at your local 24hr fitness right?

[yannick35]

tell me your acutally at a Muay Thai gym and not a cardio kickboxing class at your local 24hr fitness right?

Does sound weird i got some real kickboxing near my house, its a kenpo school that has kickboxing.

I really tough it was some kind of kickboxing tae bo type of thing but its really legit.

Lots of boxing, bag work, there is a ring too for sparring.

[energizer bunny]

[QUOTE=war4BTT;4066488]tell me your acutally at a Muay Thai gym and not a cardio kickboxing class at your local 24hr fitness right?[/QUO


No its not a muay thai gym thats why i said started kickboxing, not muay thai..

its proper kickboxing with elements of Aikido, as far as i know, ive jst started and ive never done it before. You do bag, pad work, sparring,lots of technique. competitions available to enter if and when your ready. The instructor is WUMA european champion and seems to know what he is talking about.

Any answers to my question??

[zimmy]

I'd do kettle weights...they are GREAT for over all strength....but don't over do it...the joints don't like it when you over do

[energizer bunny]

I'd do kettle weights...they are GREAT for over all strength....but don't over do it...the joints don't like it when you over do

Thanks for your reply mate,

Ive never used kettle weights before but ive read a bit about them and they sound like the way forward.

[energizer bunny]

Does sound weird i got some real kickboxing near my house, its a kenpo school that has kickboxing.

I really tough it was some kind of kickboxing tae bo type of thing but its really legit.

Lots of boxing, bag work, there is a ring too for sparring.

What sounds weird mate???

[alexxflash22]

With three days per week devoted to strength training - Focus on basic major muscle group movements, ab work, and you should begin some conditioning / roadwork immediately.

Best,

Nap

[yannick35]

What sounds weird mate???

Most places that advertise kickboxing class turn out to be tae bo, or fitness kickboxing.

Not the real thing

[energizer bunny]

With three days per week devoted to strength training - Focus on basic major muscle group movements, ab work, and you should begin some conditioning / roadwork immediately.

Best,

Nap

Thanks for the reply mate, am not looking forward to early morning running again!! used to do it when i woz boxing and al have to start it again to shed a lot of weight!! lol

[energizer bunny]

Most places that advertise kickboxing class turn out to be tae bo, or fitness kickboxing.

Not the real thing

Defo not tae bo mate, jst did some training the night and did some light sparring at the end. Realy hard work for me, not in the best of shape at the moment.

[yannick35]

Defo not tae bo mate, jst did some training the night and did some light sparring at the end. Realy hard work for me, not in the best of shape at the moment.

Dont worry i cant even do kickboxing right now, still in rehab.

I got at least another 6 months to do lower back and pelvic strenghtening exercise.

Then and only then i will be able to get back into kickboxing.

[WARMachine]

just reg. weight workouts work well... i assume your tryin to cut the weight, try bumping up the cardio... cardio, cardio, cardio... any type of fighting sports require it.

btw after you get tired of the lack of contact and realism in kickboxing, try Muay Thai.... it will compensate your need.

Aikido= crap

utterly worthless in any type of fight, professional or not... not tryin to flame, i just really dislike the art in terms of legit practical martial arts. ive had many heated arguements with practioners of Aikido. My main criticism of aikido is that it suffers from a lack of realism in overall training and competition. The attacks initiated are sloppy, and little more than caricatures of an attack. As well as weak attacks cause a conditioned response and result in underdevelopment of the strength and conditioning needed for the safe and effective practice of both partners. Basically, it just lacks all realism and practicality in modern fighting technique.

sorry for getting so off topic, i just REALLY dislike Aikido....

[mmasupplements]

Hey if you are trying to improve your boxing/muaythai/kickboxing i have a few things that can work well
Medicine ball throwing.. put your feet in a fight stance line the ball up on your right side.. throw it at a wall, and catch it.. bring it all the back and throw again
also paper throwing! this is one thing i tell all my new students.. wad up some paper (expensive equipment here) and throw it at your wall like you were "punching" this teaches you to throw your punches with your hips and core instead of trying to push them out with your upper body
shadow boxing... shadow boxing.. shadow boxing
classic road work is really getting worked out of the mainstream for boxers and fighters.. lean more towards interval training.. from doing 20 second sprints/10 second walks to .. one minute at 10 MPH and 30 seconds at 5 MPH
you want your body to focus on going hard and then recovering.. not can my body learn to go for one hour at a slow pace

(i teach muay thai and boxing)

[energizer bunny]

just reg. weight workouts work well... i assume your tryin to cut the weight, try bumping up the cardio... cardio, cardio, cardio... any type of fighting sports require it.

btw after you get tired of the lack of contact and realism in kickboxing, try Muay Thai.... it will compensate your need.

Aikido= crap

utterly worthless in any type of fight, professional or not... not tryin to flame, i just really dislike the art in terms of legit practical martial arts. ive had many heated arguements with practioners of Aikido. My main criticism of aikido is that it suffers from a lack of realism in overall training and competition. The attacks initiated are sloppy, and little more than caricatures of an attack. As well as weak attacks cause a conditioned response and result in underdevelopment of the strength and conditioning needed for the safe and effective practice of both partners. Basically, it just lacks all realism and practicality in modern fighting technique.

sorry for getting so off topic, i just REALLY dislike Aikido....

thanks for your reply, as far as doing muay thai i would have done it if there was a class in my area but unfortunately there is not. and no flame taken mate, as ive said ive just started and no nothing of aikido so im in no position to defend or attack it. it is mainly kickboxing with elements of aikido and i think i heard him mention droping the aikido.

[energizer bunny]

Hey if you are trying to improve your boxing/muaythai/kickboxing i have a few things that can work well
Medicine ball throwing.. put your feet in a fight stance line the ball up on your right side.. throw it at a wall, and catch it.. bring it all the back and throw again
also paper throwing! this is one thing i tell all my new students.. wad up some paper (expensive equipment here) and throw it at your wall like you were "punching" this teaches you to throw your punches with your hips and core instead of trying to push them out with your upper body
shadow boxing... shadow boxing.. shadow boxing
classic road work is really getting worked out of the mainstream for boxers and fighters.. lean more towards interval training.. from doing 20 second sprints/10 second walks to .. one minute at 10 MPH and 30 seconds at 5 MPH
you want your body to focus on going hard and then recovering.. not can my body learn to go for one hour at a slow pace

(i teach muay thai and boxing)

Thanks for your reply,

for roadwork il be doing hill work as i live in a very hilly area and actualy live on a steep hill... not being at my best fitness i think ill jst take it easy at first then when i feel good il start putting interval training in.

[False Positive]

Fedor and Anderson Silva are Akido practioners.........

[T_Own]

Fedor and Anderson Silva are Akido practioners.........

along with everything else.. like muay thai and bjj

[WARMachine]

Fedor and Anderson Silva are Akido practioners.........

Source?

And btw, when do they actually use it in MMA?


.... thats what i thought

[False Positive]

Jesus Christ it was a joke! That's not to say that two fighters of that caliber couldn't possibly take something useful from a practice such as akido. Its an ever evolving sport that takes the best of every discipline. Would it really ruin your night if you found out in fact that while Fedor was smashing the best in the world that he once "used" akido?

[elpropiotorvic]

U COULD DO THIS ROUTINE...IT WORKS GREAT FOR ME...

Tuesdays:

Barbell overhead squats, warm up sets, then 2x6 reps
Incline barbell press, warm up sets, then 2x6 reps
Deadlifts, warm up sets, then 2x6 reps
Pull ups, warm up sets, then 2x6 reps
Weighted dips, warm up sets, then 2x8 reps
Bent-over barbell rows, warm up sets the 2x8 reps

NOTE: YOU ARE NOT USING ENOUGH WEIGHT IF YOU CAN STILL DO 2 OR MORE REPS AFTER THE 6.......

[WARMachine]

Jesus Christ it was a joke! That's not to say that two fighters of that caliber couldn't possibly take something useful from a practice such as akido. Its an ever evolving sport that takes the best of every discipline. Would it really ruin your night if you found out in fact that while Fedor was smashing the best in the world that he once "used" akido?

No it wouldn't ruin my night... Because you dont "use" Aikido, you can practice it as a martial art...

And it doesnt really matter if they used it anyway, it doesnt make it a a legit practical martial art, im sorry it doesnt, even if the two best fighters in the world did (which they do not) use it.

Jesus Christ it was a joke!

Pretty lame attempt at humor.

[energizer bunny]

U COULD DO THIS ROUTINE...IT WORKS GREAT FOR ME...

Tuesdays:

Barbell overhead squats, warm up sets, then 2x6 reps
Incline barbell press, warm up sets, then 2x6 reps
Deadlifts, warm up sets, then 2x6 reps
Pull ups, warm up sets, then 2x6 reps
Weighted dips, warm up sets, then 2x8 reps
Bent-over barbell rows, warm up sets the 2x8 reps

NOTE: YOU ARE NOT USING ENOUGH WEIGHT IF YOU CAN STILL DO 2 OR MORE REPS AFTER THE 6.......

Thanks for your reply mate, but i had a routine set up untill i injured my knee, it realy pissed me off id only been back in training 4 weeks! Now ive been un able to do anything for the past 2 and half weeks!!

[ayomacs]

maybe he's training for the movies. Like he worships steven segal

[ayomacs]

can you even throw down/ like judo?

[Golden Gloves]

I'd Use the days To get stronger/ work on plyometric movements.

Lotsa deadlifts power cleans barbell swings russian twists....And if ya really wana punch like a champ work ya grip ALOT...theres an article in mens fitness with jens pulver thats pretty good.

As for plyometric i usually do 2 different rounds 5 of each.

Round 1
15 Plymetric push-ups (Clapping push ups)
20 burpees
10 Tuck jumps ( i duno what other people call 'em but just jump and pull your knees to your chest)
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Sprint 20 m
Jog back to wear i was
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Round 2
15 triangle push ups
20 burpees
10 tuck jumps

Hope that helps.

[energizer bunny]

Ive been injured for a couple of months now. Knee fuked. seeing a physio but will take some time. cheers for the reply tho mate.

[BJJ]

What have you learnt so far?

[Pete789]

I fought Muay Thai for years....... i recommend CARDIO,, CARDIO ,, AND CARDIO

[energizer bunny]

What have you learnt so far?

I fought Muay Thai for years....... i recommend CARDIO,, CARDIO ,, AND CARDIO

LOL at bumping the 2 year old thread.....but to answer your ???? BJJ.....i aint learned shit.....i havent been back since i damaged my knee.

[Brown Ninja]

Akido rules