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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    its subjective. someone like flex wheeler is a 'monster' but he had the most asthetically pleasing physique ive ever seen.

    guys like victor martinez look great in this day and age
    I'm a Vic fan myself....I think his only downfall is that bloated belly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armed&Dangerous View Post
    imagine if Sergio was competing in this era. OMG.!. would be freaking insane!
    Amen to that! Sergio imo was the biggest genetic freak of all time, with chemicals, training, and nutritional advances today he would be untouchable.

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    I personally love the freaks. This is what got me into this . Figuring out how to get to the best and biggest possible tyhen to push it further . Amazing

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    i like todays look more the the old school

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    what type of roids did they used to take compared to what they take now???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ...aydn... View Post
    what type of roids did they used to take compared to what they take now???
    What the pros take?!?!

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    thanks for the link was a good read

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    so people seriously wanna look like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up553...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by ...aydn... View Post
    so people seriously wanna look like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up553...eature=related
    Sure. What's wrong with Jonnie Jackson?

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    ARNOLD IS GOD lol, IMO he is the image of bodybuilding, and set the stage and recognition for bodybuilding as a sport
    YES arnold was considered a monster in his day in age, BUT arnold got laid, girls found him attractive, arnolds body was in portion to his height and he didnt look ridicuous

    ARNOLD ALSO HAD A SOCIAL LIFE and wasnt a LIAR about his steroid usage, he also was a typical guy who smoked the occasional pot, cigarettes and ate unhealthy occasionaly and went out

    arnold may have been seen as OMFG look how big he is, back in his day BUT arnold physique was still attractive, women wanted him and men idolised him

    thats why he also become a movie star, his physique WAS ATTRACTIVE, aswell as arnold could still RUN and walk normally

    HELL ARNOLD could breathe properly

    his arms are still idolised 2dai even though these new bodybuilders arms arm obviously bigger and scarier

    2dais bodybuilders are NOT IDOLISED, idolised means u aim, look up to or want to acheive that, thier are few who want to acheive that size
    these bodybuilders are ADMIRED, meaning people look at them and marvel at what they are and have become, NOT IDOLISED
    , a majority of men NEVER want to obtain that size
    women do not find that sexy, a rare few might, i am yet to meet one
    these bodybuilders are LIARS and will not admit to their anabolic usage
    these bodybuilders cannot even walk or run
    these bodybuilder DIE because of their substance abuse
    these bodybuilders have NO social life,
    these bodybuiders struggle to breath due to carrying their enourmous mass, the human heart was not designed to carry that level of genetic abuse
    think about it imagine trying to carry around 300 pounds of solid muscle everywhere u go, good luck

    i admire these bodybuilders for not WHAT they ARE but for WHO THEY ARE

    thses guys walk around and struggle to breath
    they dedicate their life to sleep, eat, train, rest
    they need to find sites to inject, due to they build up ruff skin over injection sites over time from all the injections, meaning they need to find new spots to inject or the needle needs to get bigger since it wont pierce the skin
    they inject several times a day, in all different places
    they use anything they can get their hands on, e.g DNP , GHB for christ sake, yes they use these things
    these guys suffer stomach and interal disgetive issues from the mass amounts of calories they are required to eat
    they have massive bowel movements (they fart huge and cant stop it) because off all the food they eat, thats lil embarressing wen u cant control it
    they eat every 2 hours, i know alot of us do this but remember they eat 5 times what we do, meaning every 2 hours their down 3 or 4 chicken breasts with 3 cups of rice, thats alot of food

    bodybuilding is not just a sport BUT and EXTREME SPORT, because now it is a risking ur life
    anyone who thinks injecting 10 grams of anabolics, sytherol, taking t3, DNP, GHB, amphetamines while eating 6000-7000 calories minimum, carrying 300 pounds, and training morning and night with 20 set a muscle group while almost deydrating urself or starving urself for competions all year round cant kill u, or lead to long term health probelms or death is an idiot

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    n i was hoping someone would argue or agree with me lol
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    hell yeah i wanna look like that...it blows my mind how huge and full his pecs are.

    Quote Originally Posted by ...aydn... View Post
    so people seriously wanna look like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up553...eature=related

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    hell yeah i do...blows my mind how freaking huge and full his pecs are

    Quote Originally Posted by ...aydn... View Post
    so people seriously wanna look like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up553...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    BUT arnold got laid, girls found him attractive, arnolds body was in portion to his height and he didnt look ridicuous
    Arnold was a freak in his time, much like any current pro is a freak now.

    Some girls found him attractive... others found him too heavily muscled... same as today's cult-following bodybuilders have.

    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    ARNOLD ALSO HAD A SOCIAL LIFE and wasnt a LIAR about his steroid usage, he also was a typical guy who smoked the occasional pot, cigarettes and ate unhealthy occasionaly and went out
    Arnold wasn't a liar about his steroid usage?

    LMAO... you're delusional.

    Do you have any idea what Arnold's cycles looked like?

    Arnold played loads of mind games with his competitors, and bullshitted a lot about what he used and ate so he'd always have an edge.


    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    women do not find that sexy, a rare few might, i am yet to meet one
    these bodybuilders are LIARS and will not admit to their anabolic usage
    No kidding.

    Steroids are ILLEGAL now.

    Arnold could walk into any pharmacy in his time and grab a bag full of gear without having to look over his shoulder.

    The comparison is just silly.

    Beyond silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    these bodybuilders cannot even walk or run
    these bodybuilder DIE because of their substance abuse
    these bodybuilders have NO social life,
    these bodybuiders struggle to breath due to carrying their enourmous mass, the human heart was not designed to carry that level of genetic abuse
    think about it imagine trying to carry around 300 pounds of solid muscle everywhere u go, good luck

    i admire these bodybuilders for not WHAT they ARE but for WHO THEY ARE

    thses guys walk around and struggle to breath
    they dedicate their life to sleep, eat, train, rest
    they need to find sites to inject, due to they build up ruff skin over injection sites over time from all the injections, meaning they need to find new spots to inject or the needle needs to get bigger since it wont pierce the skin
    they inject several times a day, in all different places
    they use anything they can get their hands on, e.g DNP , GHB for christ sake, yes they use these things
    these guys suffer stomach and interal disgetive issues from the mass amounts of calories they are required to eat
    they have massive bowel movements (they fart huge and cant stop it) because off all the food they eat, thats lil embarressing wen u cant control it
    they eat every 2 hours, i know alot of us do this but remember they eat 5 times what we do, meaning every 2 hours their down 3 or 4 chicken breasts with 3 cups of rice, thats alot of food

    bodybuilding is not just a sport BUT and EXTREME SPORT, because now it is a risking ur life
    anyone who thinks injecting 10 grams of anabolics, sytherol, taking t3, DNP, GHB, amphetamines while eating 6000-7000 calories minimum, carrying 300 pounds, and training morning and night with 20 set a muscle group while almost deydrating urself or starving urself for competions all year round cant kill u, or lead to long term health probelms or death is an idiot
    Get off your soapbox man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    ARNOLD IS GOD lol, IMO he is the image of bodybuilding, and set the stage and recognition for bodybuilding as a sport
    YES arnold was considered a monster in his day in age, BUT arnold got laid, girls found him attractive, arnolds body was in portion to his height and he didnt look ridicuous

    ARNOLD ALSO HAD A SOCIAL LIFE and wasnt a LIAR about his steroid usage, he also was a typical guy who smoked the occasional pot, cigarettes and ate unhealthy occasionaly and went out

    arnold may have been seen as OMFG look how big he is, back in his day BUT arnold physique was still attractive, women wanted him and men idolised him

    thats why he also become a movie star, his physique WAS ATTRACTIVE, aswell as arnold could still RUN and walk normally

    HELL ARNOLD could breathe properly

    his arms are still idolised 2dai even though these new bodybuilders arms arm obviously bigger and scarier

    2dais bodybuilders are NOT IDOLISED, idolised means u aim, look up to or want to acheive that, thier are few who want to acheive that size
    these bodybuilders are ADMIRED, meaning people look at them and marvel at what they are and have become, NOT IDOLISED
    , a majority of men NEVER want to obtain that size
    women do not find that sexy, a rare few might, i am yet to meet one
    these bodybuilders are LIARS and will not admit to their anabolic usage
    these bodybuilders cannot even walk or run
    these bodybuilder DIE because of their substance abuse
    these bodybuilders have NO social life,
    these bodybuiders struggle to breath due to carrying their enourmous mass, the human heart was not designed to carry that level of genetic abuse
    think about it imagine trying to carry around 300 pounds of solid muscle everywhere u go, good luck

    i admire these bodybuilders for not WHAT they ARE but for WHO THEY ARE

    thses guys walk around and struggle to breath
    they dedicate their life to sleep, eat, train, rest
    they need to find sites to inject, due to they build up ruff skin over injection sites over time from all the injections, meaning they need to find new spots to inject or the needle needs to get bigger since it wont pierce the skin
    they inject several times a day, in all different places
    they use anything they can get their hands on, e.g DNP , GHB for christ sake, yes they use these things
    these guys suffer stomach and interal disgetive issues from the mass amounts of calories they are required to eat
    they have massive bowel movements (they fart huge and cant stop it) because off all the food they eat, thats lil embarressing wen u cant control it
    they eat every 2 hours, i know alot of us do this but remember they eat 5 times what we do, meaning every 2 hours their down 3 or 4 chicken breasts with 3 cups of rice, thats alot of food

    bodybuilding is not just a sport BUT and EXTREME SPORT, because now it is a risking ur life
    anyone who thinks injecting 10 grams of anabolics, sytherol, taking t3, DNP, GHB, amphetamines while eating 6000-7000 calories minimum, carrying 300 pounds, and training morning and night with 20 set a muscle group while almost deydrating urself or starving urself for competions all year round cant kill u, or lead to long term health probelms or death is an idiot
    Uhhhh JAY CUTLER can walk, Jay can GO AT A GOOD PACE on an Elliptical... He is able to move around. He breathes.. he's alive isn't he??

    I doubt.. HIGHLY DOUBT that JAY CUTLER/ Branch Warren/ Victor Martinez/ Dexter Jackson/ Ronnie Coleman or ANY of the Great use DNP or GHB... those substances are for people that DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

    They probably use a combo of Igf-Hgh-slin + AAS obviously.. but venturing into the realm of DEATHLY substances.. NAH i don't think so. If you wanna believe that then you are entitled to your opinion man,

    I am going to PUSH my Body to the EXTREME.. I am going to PACK on as MUCH muscle as I can.. I DON'T CARE IF I WEIGHT 275lbs. at 6% BF Contest weight or 310lbs. 12% off contest weight. I am going to make sure my health is in check and that is all that matters. I HAVE LOVE FOR THE SPORT. I am NEW to it. I have a LOT to learn, but I can promise you ONE thing. If this leads me down an avenue where I NEED TO TAKE DnP or GHB or anything that will PUT MY LIFE AT RISK other than the norm.. then NO i will not continue...

    Who knows if I will truly make it. But I don't care if I am called a GENETIC FREAK. I don't care if I am looked down upon for what I do... and why is that??

    MY LIFE MY CHOICE !!!

    Just like it is EVERY BodyBuilders out there... Their own personal choice what they do to their bodies...

    AND YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR GAS...

    Where the heck did that come from??? I can consume 4 chicken breasts and 3 cups of rice in a sitting NOW and I am nowhere even near THEIR size.. Yes I fart.. BUT WHO DOESN'T ?!?!? Natural HUMAN function.. heck I think it is in EVERY LIVING THINGS nature to do this...

    What you stated was your own opinion man...

    And guess what.. This is their chosen career and they are damn good at it. They have made MILLIONS off of their bodies.. They dedicate their lives to it. It's just like if you are a doctor .. it's what you chose to do as a profession. As far as I know.. Jay Cutler Invested his money in other things and Now is sitting perfectly comfortable now.. where he would not need to EVER compete again.. WHY DOES HE DO IT?? Because he loves the sport...

    I am sure after Peyton Manning's first contract ran out .. or even his second one he could have retired nicely somewhere.. BUT GUESS WHAT !!! He is still on that field practicing and playing what he loves to do.. his job... FOOTBALL.. Possibly risking something like a shattered spine so he will never walk again.. or maybe even with the right colllision from a DT .. DEATH !!! But right this second he has enough money in his Bank account to retire never to work again a DAY IN HIS LIFE.. But he gets on That field every SUNDAY (Monday on occasion.. even saturday sometimes...) risking LIFE AND LIMB to do what he loves... get what i am getting at??

    People do what they love.. they strive for excellence.. they want to be the BEST at what they do.. it's human nature...

    Same goes for BODYBULDING IF IT MEANS THAT the bodybuilder has to get an extra edge by throwing on an extra plate or two to create the much needed muscle tissue to beat the competitor.. not knowing whether or not that extra plate could rip the pectoral muscle beyond surgical repair...

    But they do it...

    Ok, now I wanna analyze your talking about SKIN AND NEEDLES.. Uhhh no dude.. their bodies aren't like that all.. YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT !! They are not retarded.. their bodies are on display.. why on EARTH would the have an area on their bodies where theskin would be so ROUGH that they wouldn't be able to stick a needle into it.. YES I KNOW SCAR TISSUE CAN BUILD UP.. but that is why most people ROTATE INJECTION SITES...

    I just find your mock up of Bodybuilding not really educated at all.. These men, and in some case women... put their bodies through hell to get on that stage to please the crowd and to satisfy their own inner demons.. In some ways that it is a job/dream/addiction... but it is a lifestyle just like a LAWYER has to do specific things everyday to ensure their career strives.. So a bodybuilder has to eat ridiculous amounts of food... SO WHAT. So a bodybuilder "MIGHT" inject their bodies with AAS and the like... SO WHAT ?? So a bodybuilder has a totally different lifestyle then YOU.. so what ?? Who are you to judge them..

    And no if it sounded like i was coming off like a dick.. i truly was not trying to.. so do not think that is what i intended.. so please dont take it the wrong way... cool??


    IT'S THIS STATEMENT...

    these bodybuilders are LIARS and will not admit to their anabolic usage
    these bodybuilders cannot even walk or run
    these bodybuilder DIE because of their substance abuse
    these bodybuilders have NO social life,
    these bodybuiders struggle to breath due to carrying their enourmous mass, the human heart was not designed to carry that level of genetic abuse
    think about it imagine trying to carry around 300 pounds of solid muscle everywhere u go, good luck

    That I found ignorant, they do not admit AAS usage for 2 reason i assume... 1) ILLEGAL MAN !! ILLEGAL !! 2) Yes people do look up to them.. I am one of them.. but KIDS look up to them.. and if they KNEW from the BBer's admitance that they used illegal substances then the kids/pre-teens/teens/young adults would think it was ok to do them without any RISK because HEY JAY CUTLER ADMITTED TO USING THEM THAT MEANS THEY MUST BE SAFE !!!

    Bodybuilders walk and run.. but prefer to keep it to a minimum so they do not burn their hard earned muscle.

    Bodybuilders do not DIE from substance USE... some may die from substance ABUSE.. IF done correctly AAS are perfectly safe, remember there hasn't been 1 documented case as to the cause of death being attributed to AAS.

    Bodybuilders have social lives... where did you come up with that one????????????????????? They go out.. Jay has been spotted at Night clubs around Vegas, Branch goes out to DALLAS and has a blast.. These men are still men.. they dont hermit themselves.. ya know???

    The human Heart can actually handle a lot more than you give it credit for... I know people who are 6'6" 350lbs easy and are perfectly healthy, are they solid muscle like the Bodybuilders we are discussing?? NO but they are still large men who are fine and dandy...

    Carrying 300lbs of muscle around is not that hard... They seem to do it just fine to me.. They wont be that way forever.. it's just while they compete... later on in life when their bb-ing careers are over they will revert back to natural settings... kinda like rebooting a computer...

    As far as women liking MEN that big... THERE ARE MOST DEFINITELY MANY A WOMEN OUT THERE THAT THINK THAT A MUSCLE BOUND FREAK IS A HIGHLY ATTRACTIVE SUBJECT...

    One last thing... VIKINGS.. True real Vikings... they didn't have AAS BUT they were massive human beings... and they thrived just fine... Gladiators of the Roman times were muscular freaks of nature of their time without AAS and they were admired... MUSCULAR MEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE STAPLE OF STRENGTH and the More strength you had.. the more power u yielded... the more POWER you possessed the MORE women FLOCKED to you... I think this philosophy is still prevalent TODAY.



    THIS IS ALL MY OPINION OF COURSE AND SHOULD BE REGARDED AS SUCH !!!!
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    if i ever juice i wanna be on the same shit these guys are on. the are my ideal..
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    I say keep the monsters and freaks!

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    One last thing... VIKINGS.. True real Vikings... they didn't have AAS BUT they were massive human beings... QUOTE]

    Not to get off topic but the average viking was only 5'7-5'8 and in the 160-170lb range. At the time they were considered large compared to other Europeans (Romans were averaged 5'4).

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