ask metalject anything?

[canesfan804]

5'7" 174lbs. Test E, tren , mast and clen . Basically I east about 2000 calories a day right now. 350grams of protein and about 60 grams of carbs.

[gearbox]

That's a good size for sure. Cause we already know your lean being 6 dayz out. Wish I could weigh that much lean
Keep it up bro.

[davesah1]

Most bodybuilders don't keep that close of an eye on their health. I can't tell you of Bostin does, I don't know him, but most don't anymore than your every day person does. How bad is that? Who knows, but there is not a chance in this world it's as bad as people often make it out to be, think about it:

1. Guys have been using butt loads of steroids for decades and they're not dropping like flies or all dying at the age of 40. Sure, sometimes a bodybuilder dies, but most of them live into old age.

2. Most bodybuilders (Pros) have kids, very few don't have kids.

3. Most bodybuilders have hair (you brought up the hair argument). Sure you can lose your hair but that's genetic. You can't lose your hair unless you were going to lose it anyway.

All of that said, does that mean it's healthy? Nope, but neither is eating lard or smoking pot every day but plenty of people do that too.

Kind of a side note but still relevant to the topic, the bodybuilders that do die young, in my opinion it's far more often due to other things, not steroids - such as:

1. Severe diuretic abuse
2. Rec drugs - this gets a lot of bodybuilders in trouble, particularly coke and pain meds.

So basically Dorian's view of steroids being somewhat mild drugs holds some truth in this video, dunno if you've seen it.

[Metalject]

So basically Dorian's view of steroids being somewhat mild drugs holds some truth in this video, dunno if you've seen it.

No, I haven't seen it. But that was excellent IMO. I don't disagree with anything he said in that video.

[stirated]

Hey mate came across this on another forum im a member on, I kind of know what the answer will be but just for the sake of the exercise would you think that this cycle is more the norm now days. I guess what im asking do people really
Take this much gear.

A Very Special Treat- Mr. Olympia Cycle
This was the Olympia cycle for a top 6 guy. Someone you all know of.

1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th week:

ANDROGENIC /ANABOLIC :

SUSTANON (or OMNADREN ) 250 mg - every other day
TESTOSTERON UNDECANOATE - 1000 mg (4ml shot, 250 mg/ml injections) - every Sunday
TRENBOLONE ACETATE 400 mg per week
DECA -DURABOLIN (Nandrolone Decanoate) 900 mg per week
OXANDROLONE (tablets) 60 mg/day (20 mg every 8 hours)
TURINABOL (tablets) 60 mg/day (20 mg every 8 hours)

ANTI-ESTROGENS:

2 mg ARIMIDEX (Anastrozole) per day
50 mg CLOMID (Clomiphene Citrate) - every day 25 mg in the morning + 25 mg 12 hours later

OTHER HORMONES:

Growth Hormone - 4 IU's ON EMPTY STOMACH and as many times a day as possible (up to 12 IU's a day)

Insulin - HUMALOG, 20 units 1 hour before every training, as scheduled

Thyroid:

T3 (Triiodothyronine) - 25 mcg per day (12.5 mcg morning + 12.5 mcg 12 hours later in the evening), first 2 weeks, than 37.5 mcg per day (25 mcg morning + 12.5 mcg 12 hours later in the evening) week #3 + week #4
T4 (Thyroxine)- 50 mcg per day (25 mcg in the morning + 25 mcg 12 hours later) first 2 weeks, than 100 mcg per day (50 mcg in the morning + 50 mcg 12 hours later) week #3 + week #4

XYREM - every night before sleep - 4.5 grams

5th, 6th, 7th, 8th week:

ANDROGENIC/ANABOLIC:

TESTOSTERONE Propionate 100 mg - every day
TESTOSTERON ENANTHATE 200 mg - every other day
TRENBOLONE Acetate 400 mg per week, week #5 + week #6
PRIMOBOLAN (Methelnolone) 600 mg per week, week #7 + week #8
EQUIPOSE (Boldenone ) 600 mg per week
WINSTROL (Stanozolol ) (tablets) 60 mg every day (20 mg every 8 hours)
OXYMETHOLONE (tablets) 150 mg per day (50 mg every 8 hours)

ANTI-ESTROGENS:

2-3 mg ARIMIDEX (Anastrozole) per day (1 mg in the morning, 1mg 12 hours later)

OTHER HORMONES:

Growth Hormone - 3-4 IU's ON EMPTY STOMACH and as many times a day as possible (12 to 16 units per day)

Insulin - HUMALOG, 15-20 units 1 hour before every training, as scheduled (depending on condition)

Thyroid:

T3 (Triiodothyronine) - 50 mcg per day (25 mcg morning + 25 mcg 12 hours later in the evening), first 2 weeks, than 75 mcg per day (37.5 mcg morning + 37.5 mcg 12 hours later in the evening) week #3 + week #4
T4 (Thyroxine)- 150 mcg per day (75 mcg in the morning + 75 mcg 12 hours later) first 2 weeks, than 200 mcg per day (100 mcg in the morning + 100 mcg 12 hours later) week #3 + week #4

XYREM - every night before sleeping 4.5 grams

9th, 10th, 11th, 12th week

ANDROGENIC/ANABOLIC:

TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE 200 mg - every day
MASTERON (Drostanolon Propionate) 600 mg per week
OXANDROLONE (tablets) 60 mg every day (20 mg every 8 hours)
PRIMOBOLAN (Methelnolone) 600 mg per week, week #9 + week #10
HALOTESTIN (Fluoxymesterone) (tablets) 30 mg/day (10 mg every 8 hours)
PROVIRON (Mesterolone)(tablets) 150 mg/day (50 mg every 8 hours)
WINSTROL (Stanozolol) (injections) 50mg every day on week #9, 100mg every day on week #10, 150 mg every day on week #11...

ANTI-ESTROGENS:

3 mg ARIMIDEX (Anastrozole) per day (1 mg in the morning, 1mg 12 hours later)

OTHER HORMONES:

Growth Hormone - 3-4 IU's ON EMPTY STOMACH and as many times a day as possible (12 to 16 units per day)

Insulin - HUMALOG, 10 - 20 units 1 hour before every training, DEPENDING ON CONDITION

Thyroid:
T3 - (Triiodothyronine) - DEPENDS ON YOUR CONDITION
T4 (Thyroxine) - DEPENDS ON YOUR CONDITION

XYREM - every night before sleeping 4.5 grams
__________________
Crazolade Crewke

[Metalject]

In my opinion the above cycle would be considered mild. So yes, people take this much gear and a whole lot more.

[canesfan804]

Thanks GB honestly I was expecting some criticism for being on multiple compounds and only 176 lbs. Although I don't run high doses it just seem like a lot of guys think you should be 225lbs @10% to run tren .

[oldnsedentary]

Have you used anavar in a cycle for cutting or contest prep, and what are your thoughts on it?

[emayarsh]

What are your thoughts on nolotil metal?

[Capebuffalo]

What are your thoughts on nolotil metal?

My understanding is extreme pain even with the lidocaine mixed in.
Painful inflammation for 2-5 days.

[gearbox]

Thanks GB honestly I was expecting some criticism for being on multiple compounds and only 176 lbs. Although I don't run high doses it just seem like a lot of guys think you should be 225lbs @10% to run tren.

If someone was smart they would realize that everyone is different and some people cant get to 225 or 250 even on aas. But we like a rule of thumb cause we get newbies who are 5'10 and 150 and say they have been eating and training hard for 3 years with no gains. then we look into there diet of cereal, pbj's, and some chicken sandwiches.

Also many have no clue what lean really is. Everyone thinks there under 15%. It is pretty funny sometimes and annoying others.

Good luck to you and keep at it.

[Metalject]

Have you used anavar in a cycle for cutting or contest prep, and what are your thoughts on it?

Yes I've used it, but it's not something I care to use. There's nothing wrong with it but there are better options. Good Anavar can be hard to find, and if it's good it can be pretty expensive.

[Metalject]

What are your thoughts on nolotil metal?

I've never used it or recommended it.

[Metalject]

Thanks GB honestly I was expecting some criticism for being on multiple compounds and only 176 lbs. Although I don't run high doses it just seem like a lot of guys think you should be 225lbs @10% to run tren.

A lot of guys also think if they time their meals out perfectly and drink the perfect amount of waxy maze 42.73 seconds after training that it will transform them into gargantuan mass. They're mistaken, you need to drink it 44.8 seconds after training with plenty of BCAA's and a meal of rice and goat cheese 38 minutes later.

[stirated]

A lot of guys also think if they time their meals out perfectly and drink the perfect amount of waxy maze 42.73 seconds after training that it will transform them into gargantuan mass. They're mistaken, you need to drink it 44.8 seconds after training with plenty of BCAA's and a meal of rice and goat cheese 38 minutes later.

Lol, mate you forgot to mention all this must been done on the eve of a full moon while facing the star constellation growth.

[kelkel]

A lot of guys also think if they time their meals out perfectly and drink the perfect amount of waxy maze 42.73 seconds after training that it will transform them into gargantuan mass. They're mistaken, you need to drink it 44.8 seconds after training with plenty of BCAA's and a meal of rice and goat cheese 38 minutes later.

Lol, mate you forgot to mention all this must been done on the eve of a full moon while facing the star constellation growth.

All these years and I've been screwing it all up. Damn.

[Metalject]

All these years and I've been screwing it all up. Damn.

I recommend buying your own goat. Make sure he has a really long beard. That will ensure you get the most bang for your buck.

[stirated]

I recommend buying your own goat. Make sure he has a really long beard. That will ensure you get the most bang for your buck.

Just having had a look at some of the new threads started in the steroid section over the last few months im sure there is some goats over there lol

[David PvP]

Young goat checking in

[carbman]

Hey!
I have 14 months til my show. Now I'm wondering my bulk stuff. I have lots of deca and tren and test. Should I cycle like 8 weeks tren then change for 8 weeks for deca. I think I will use more anabolics than test but nothing is written in stone. Should I use only npp and tren ace or does it harm if I use long ester deca or tren. any other anabolics that you have used during bulk season before contest? 6-ghrp is it worth it? I have three years experience with steroids .

[Capebuffalo]

Hey!
I have 14 months til my show. Now I'm wondering my bulk stuff. I have lots of deca and tren and test. Should I cycle like 8 weeks tren then change for 8 weeks for deca. I think I will use more anabolics than test but nothing is written in stone. Should I use only npp and tren ace or does it harm if I use long ester deca or tren. any other anabolics that you have used during bulk season before contest? 6-ghrp is it worth it? I have three years experience with steroids.

Curious of your stats and what class you are aiming for.

[carbman]

I'm now 200 lb and 5.7" and about 10-12 %. Aiming for show under 200 lb. So I have to collect some serious mass in the next 7-8 months.

[Capebuffalo]

I'm now 200 lb and 5.7" and about 10-12 %. Aiming for show under 200 lb. So I have to collect some serious mass in the next 7-8 months.

Those are some nice numbers. How old ?

[carbman]

I'm 25. I'm very serious about bodybuilding. It's my future, pleasure and destination. I can't wait for my first show.

[David PvP]

Metal what is you're experience with eq?i noticed i cannot control my diet right when i am on it...i frenzy and eat icecream,then i repent of the sin...but it hapopens more and more often...

[Metalject]

Metal what is you're experience with eq?i noticed i cannot control my diet right when i am on it...i frenzy and eat icecream,then i repent of the sin...but it hapopens more and more often...

I've never had any steroid increase my appetite or decrease it, at least not in the way people often mention. As far as its use, some here hate it and find it worthless, I disagree but it doesn't only serve a few specific good purposes.

*Good for adding more to a cycle when you don't want to increase the mg's of testosterone you're using or other items but you're looking for a little more punch overall, particular when using a lot of gear during prep.

*Low dose female use can be OK at times.

[David PvP]

I want to cruise for a month or two i feel my body tired,then i want to go on test aroung 1g/w,and hgh maibe 4-5 iu/day,what do you think,? is this suffice for a bulk?,or should i add sometin like eq or deca ?

And another thing i wanted to ask you,did you noticed alot of people have very very different training styles but even tough they seem to do it wrong, for some it works,for example i have a stripper friend who trains 3-4 hours a day,allmost all muscle groups a day every day for 25 working sets per muscle group,but he look awesome,and he is only oh test 1k,winstrol ,Tbol and a lil hgh,with a very weird diet,someting like 30 egg wites a day lots of chicken breast,""""0 fat""",and cycles carbs like crazy.i have a few friends who get theyre training done in 30 mins,other hamer it for 50 sets per muscle group,others dont do crap just pump and leave,what you're toughts on this one?

[Metalject]

I want to cruise for a month or two i feel my body tired,then i want to go on test aroung 1g/w,and hgh maibe 4-5 iu/day,what do you think,? is this suffice for a bulk?,or should i add sometin like eq or deca ?

And another thing i wanted to ask you,did you noticed alot of people have very very different training styles but even tough they seem to do it wrong, for some it works,for example i have a stripper friend who trains 3-4 hours a day,allmost all muscle groups a day every day for 25 working sets per muscle group,but he look awesome,and he is only oh test 1k,winstrol,Tbol and a lil hgh,with a very weird diet,someting like 30 egg wites a day lots of chicken breast,""""0 fat""",and cycles carbs like crazy.i have a few friends who get theyre training done in 30 mins,other hamer it for 50 sets per muscle group,others dont do crap just pump and leave,what you're toughts on this one?

I'm not sure exactly what your question is regarding cruising simply because I wouldn't call 1g of test/wk a break. If you feel your body needs a break, come off everything or at least to TRT levels.

Training - everyone responds a little better to certain things. In my opinion, very few people respond well to very high volume training, they just beat the crap out of their body. Granted, if you're lean enough, even if you train like that you'll still look far better than the average guy, that's a given. And I sometimes wonder how many guys that do train high volume if they would look a little better if they didn't? Hard to say and impossible to prove if they never try it. Personally, I prefer lower volume. I wasn't always that way, when I started out I was very high volume (like most). High volume makes sense in our head. If I had it to do over again, I'd train 9-12 sets per body part once per week per body part, 8 rep range and if one week a certain body part was hurting (actual pain, not sore but pain) I'd lay off it that week or push back training it until it feels better.

[Times Roman]

Brother Metal

Sorry for not showing up earlier. This could be my first time in the door. Just wanted to say hello and see how things are with you?

---Roman

[Metalject]

Brother Metal

Sorry for not showing up earlier. This could be my first time in the door. Just wanted to say hello and see how things are with you?

---Roman

Things are good. Just living life. Thanks for asking

[David PvP]

I want to cruise for a month or two i feel my body tired,then i want to go on test aroung 1g/w,and hgh maibe 4-5 iu/day,what do you think,? is this suffice for a bulk?,or should i add sometin like eq or deca ?


i meant afther the 2 moth trt period,and i see trt around 150 test/week.......

About training i somewhat share youre opinion,i too feel that my body responds perfect to a brief stimulation but very intense,short period betwen sets,very simple training,and around 7-9 sets per bodypart,i just wonder how can some people still train in the 30's sets and make progress.....wouldnt they be much better if they lay off the volume....???


And i want to share with you someting i experimented on yself,i can clearly say i cannot control my diet on EQ,i would eat a dead rat if i see one,even tough this is what i think i still like to include all posibilities,and another reason why i might think i cannot controll it is because i am doing it for too long...afther a while you get enough of the same chicken breast,same oatmeal,same crap every every every day.....

[David PvP]

And i also wanted to ask you if you noticed the importance of stress in life and in muscle building? few weeks ago i had some problems and i was stressed 24/7 for a couple of weeks and i could feel my body turning in to shyt,no energy no drive nothing,and now afther things got alot better i feel i can fly,i think stress affects us more than we know....just saying

[Metalject]

Sure, stress can make things hard. For myself, if I'm really stressed going to the gym is a big help. It's the one place where I can block out all the things going on in my life, it's the one place where you can feel you have control over a situation when you may be lacking as much control in other areas of your life. Energy may be lower and you may feel drained, but once you get going into your workout things usually start to click.

Then there's food...I know a lot of people gorge and eat stupid when they're stressed. My natural instinct when I'm stressed is to stop eating, I lose my appetite. But again, staying on at least some level of consistency with eating along with training really helps me manage my stress.

[David PvP]

Sad to say i am one of those people that when stress is high i eat like a idiot....always feel guilty afther....and swear to myself it is the last time...

[cannix]

i need help with my contest prep please!
I am currently 5.5 weeks out of my first show. I am currently on 100mg test p eod, 40mg of var ed, 40mg of winny ed(oral), and .5 arimidex eod. I also had masteron but my at home tests determined it bunk so ill have to make due with what i have. i also have nolva, clomid, and exemestane on hand.
my question; what combination of the doses of the test, winny and the anti e's will get me to come in the leanest/dry as possible?
stats: 24yrs old, 5'11, 205 at 9% bf caliper tested as of week 6. diet and training done by my coach

[Metalject]

i need help with my contest prep please!
I am currently 5.5 weeks out of my first show. I am currently on 100mg test p eod, 40mg of var ed, 40mg of winny ed(oral), and .5 arimidex eod. I also had masteron but my at home tests determined it bunk so ill have to make due with what i have. i also have nolva, clomid, and exemestane on hand.
my question; what combination of the doses of the test, winny and the anti e's will get me to come in the leanest/dry as possible?
stats: 24yrs old, 5'11, 205 at 9% bf caliper tested as of week 6. diet and training done by my coach

Generally I increase anastrozole to 1mg/ed the last two wks of the diet. Seems to help dry you out, also makes you feel like crap though. Winny, 50-100mg/ed is pretty common. If I used winny I'd typically stay at 50mg/ed and sometimes increase to 100mg/ed the last 2wks or so. Testosterone , hard to say and I wouldn't attempt to without seeing what you look like. I've had diets where my testosterone dose was 1000mg/wk or more all the way until the very end, and diets where it was at a TRT level at the end...just depends on the situation.

[cannix]

Awesome thank you. that is my major hang up is doses leading to show, especially testosterone . my worst nightmare is keeping it in and looking watery on stage(literally a dream i had). I am on a carb cycling diet, with 2 low days for every high.

[Mp859]

Just transitioning into prep and just started some mast e about 2 weeks ago. I have ran it multiple times but for whatever reason Ive lost my appetite. Normally would be fine if I was starting to diet but I was going to continue to try and hold size while the longer Esters build up. Have you had an issue with mast e doing this?


I was thinking about throwing an oral in but I'm scared now that my appetite has already diminished.

[Metalject]

I've never used mast-e, just regular masteron prop.
Sometimes I have a hard time eating all the food when I start a diet and I normally have an appetite that never ends, but dieting is different. Best thing to do is just to force the food down one way or another. Things will eventually click and your appetite will come back around.

[Metalject]

Awesome thank you. that is my major hang up is doses leading to show, especially testosterone. my worst nightmare is keeping it in and looking watery on stage(literally a dream i had). I am on a carb cycling diet, with 2 low days for every high.

Being at 9% with 5wks left, you have your work cut out for you, I'm not saying it's impossible but it's going to be a rough few weeks. I'd worry more about losing the fat you need to lose than how dry you're going to look, at least at the moment that should be your only focus.

You're at the phase where things can really start stagnating when it comes to fat loss and often this is when changes need to occur in your diet and cardio plan. Small changes are normally needed throughout the diet but they can be a little bigger at this stage. I'm not saying to reinvent you're whole diet, just examine what's in front of you and ask yourself if you think you can drop another 5% in 5wks on the current plan as is.