Eating question

**tinyguy2** · 07-09-2006, 09:18 PM

alright ill post it tommorow. I'm not ashamed of my body. can you post yours also?

**IBdmfkr** · 07-09-2006, 09:24 PM

I'm all over the place you dipshit and you're the one talking shit in this guys thread.. he didn't ask for your negative response, he is here to get help to look better. Not sure why you even posted in his thread?

**tinyguy2** · 07-09-2006, 09:26 PM

your blowing this way out of proportion. I was involved in the thread earlier. what do you mean your all over the place?

***Narkissos*** · 07-09-2006, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by tinyguy2

your blowing this way out of proportion. I was involved in the thread earlier. what do you mean your all over the place?

His pics are all over the board.. as are mine..

And i agree... yours was a dipshit response

This aint the frigging lounge man.

**IBdmfkr** · 07-09-2006, 09:32 PM

It's very easy to criticize someone when you have no pictures anywhere for them to respond about.. plus there is just no need.

Just drop it and move along. The better thing to do would've been to just apologize for the ignorance and then gotten over it.

**Surfstud18** · 07-09-2006, 09:33 PM

Thanks guys well i hear what your saying whatever i need to add to my diet i'll do it I bought a work out pass been getting my ass up every morning at 6am just to do my am cardio went and bought a bunch of cans of chicken breast and tuna. before i would just do 3 gaint meals drink beer eat a bunch tell. a other bad habit that happened was i wouldn't be hungry but eat fast food anyway but Dr's said i'm good to start working out agian and it's time to get busy

**Surfstud18** · 07-09-2006, 09:37 PM

I just want to say thanks guys for helping me learn more about macros lol and just how to start eating right the only way i can repay you guys is just take pic's every month and show you some hard work paying off

**bor** · 07-10-2006, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by tinyguy2

alright ill post it tommorow. I'm not ashamed of my body. can you post yours also?

Well now you're just being a smarta$$ which is uncalled for.

You told the guy he's in terrible shape, which he's not, and you're making fun of his gut which is not cool.

And trust me, you could get banned for a lot less then this, and it looks like you're not gonna last long here.

A tip - instead of "you're in terrible shape" you should write out a diet or some tips that could help the guy, thats how we roll here at AR. Got it?

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 04:50 AM

i was just being honest when i said he was in bad shape. i just really dont like people that dotn try and think they can just inject themselves with steroids and they will be skinny and buff. Also it bothers me when people do not read sticies etc. If people read them these questions would not be asked. i didnt know saying something like that was a big deal.

**IronFreakX** · 07-10-2006, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by tinyguy2

i was just being honest when i said he was in bad shape. i just really dont like people that dotn try and think they can just inject themselves with steroids and they will be skinny and buff. Also it bothers me when people do not read sticies etc. If people read them these questions would not be asked. i didnt know saying something like that was a big deal.

LMAO

You said "your gut is hot" not something positive and you dont even know him to kid with him, Im pretty sure he didnt appreciate it.

2nd I'm pretty sure he said nothing about steroids as magic drugs.

3rd Stickies(that's how it's spelled btw.) are a starting guide, you post you're diet after or any additional questions for advice and help.

I'm kinda guilty cause I thought the "you're gut is hot" comment was funny(sorry SS

) but it's inappropriate.

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 07:06 AM

whats the big deal with me making a joke i just thought somebody would laugh. we are all grown men here if you cant take a little joke then you need some help. You can tell me im fat im not going to cry about it. it was a harmless joke that people took way to seriously. oh sorry i didnt type the k in stickies you should all call me stupid for it cause then i will feel bad and my feeling will be crushed. then we can call it even and get on with our lives.

**IronFreakX** · 07-10-2006, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by tinyguy2

whats the big deal with me making a joke i just thought somebody would laugh. we are all grown men here if you cant take a little joke then you need some help. You can tell me im fat im not going to cry about it. it was a harmless joke that people took way to seriously. oh sorry i didnt type the k in stickies you should all call me stupid for it cause then i will feel bad and my feeling will be crushed. then we can call it even and get on with our lives.

STUPID

*watches as tiny's feelings are getting crushed*

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 07:31 AM

haha are we even now sorry about that it probably had something to do with beign kinda drunk but are we even now can we just drop it. it wont happen again.

**IBdmfkr** · 07-10-2006, 08:13 AM

it's all good.. No hard feelings just lookin out for ppl that's all. Seriously when ppl are in that shape it's hard for them to get motivated enough without ppl saying stupid shit to bring them down.. ok back to this shitty diet.

**IBdmfkr** · 07-10-2006, 08:27 AM

Surf stud, here's an example of the diet I'm doing right now to lean up for a contest, follow something similar and I guarantee you will lose BF as well.

Cutting Diet

9:00am – 8eggwhites + 1scp V60 (protein blend) + 1cup oats
Prot(50), Carbs(55), Fat(5)

11:30am – 8oz Lean Steak + ½ Yam + 1cup Veg
Prot(50), Carbs(35), Fat(5)

1:30pm – 8oz Chicken breast + 1cup oats
Prot(50), Carbs(60), Fat(5)

4:30pm – 6oz Lean Steak, chicken or Turkey + ½ Yam + 1 cup Veg
Prot(40), Carbs(35), Fat(5)

7:00pm – 12egg whites + 1cup oats + ½ cup fatfree cottage cheese (blended to make pancakes) Sugar free syrup and spray butter used for dressings.
Prot(60), Carbs(60), Fat(5)

10:00pm – 6oz Steak + 6oz Chicken + 1cup Veg
Prot(70), Carbs(5), Fat(10)

12:30am – 6-8oz Salmon + 1 ½ cup Veg
Prot(50), Carbs(5), Fat(10)

Total Macros
Prot - 375
Carb - 250
Fat – 45
Calories = approx 2900.

Adjust carbs as needed to play with calorie intake, normally I use 200carbs/day.

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 09:00 AM

I'm the opposite when people are mean to me it makes me wanna change it gives me motivation. about 7 months ago i was 20+ bf maybe more. I weighed 215 and had no muscle. I was a depressive drunk drug addict. mostly to do with my manipulative bitch girlfriend at the time. Then i got clean and started working out and since then i have changed dramatically. So for the guy who posted this dont let anything get in your way of reaching your goals. nothing is impossible. Determanation is all you need. I want to still post my pic later and i want you guys to rip me apart . It will give me inspiration to get even better. get in shape is totally worth it. i never had any confidence till i started working otu and now its through the roof.

**IBdmfkr** · 07-10-2006, 09:02 AM

If you were 20% bf 7months ago then you have no room to talk about this guy, stop clogging his thread and lets get him in the right direction.

**audis4** · 07-10-2006, 11:05 AM

I have been reading this thread and I have been holding myself back from making a mean comment to tinyguy....BUT HE CONTINUES TO POSTS NEGATIVE THREADS!!

If I were in charge of AR, I would

for his negative feedback not in just this thread but several threads.

Tinyguy...chill out man; maybe the guy is new and didn't happen to see the cutting sticky at the top of the page. The last thing you should be doing is criticizing others for their looks; rather, help them out so they know what they need to fix!

Thats all....

**IBdmfkr** · 07-10-2006, 11:06 AM

Well you see he was previously a fatty and he lost a few lbs... now he thinks he's big shit.

Poor lil guy. LMAO

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 11:07 AM

i posted 2 negative threads out of what 200... and they both happened last night when i was intoxicated. sorry. i already chilled out

**IBdmfkr** · 07-10-2006, 11:08 AM

lmfao

**audis4** · 07-10-2006, 11:14 AM

Tinyguy, you were going on about how you use to be an alcoholic and druggie 7 months ago but you totally changed your life and have been clean ever since..........yet you were intoxicated last night and posted sh*t all over the board that did nothing but hurt people's feelings.

Tinyguy, I almost guarantee you don't have a perfect body....therefore QUITE CRITICIZING OTHERS!!!

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 11:15 AM

i thou ght we were done clogging this thread involving me its over. its been that way. this started over me saying i liked some guys gut. ive seen people say a lot worse things and they dont have people jumping down there throat. its like i killed jesus or something. well i didnt kill jesus. ive been chill and i keep getting told to chill

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 11:17 AM

i meant i drank every day now i only do it once in a while i don tdo drugs. inever said i had aperfect body i said in a joking manner your gut is hot. it wasnt even meant to be mean. he showed a picture of his gut i responded.

**audis4** · 07-10-2006, 11:19 AM

Not only did you hijack this guys thread with your bullsh*t comments but you are still talking...so go ahead and quit before you are banned.

**IBdmfkr** · 07-10-2006, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by tinyguy2

i meant i drank every day now i only do it once in a while i don tdo drugs. inever said i had aperfect body i said in a joking manner your gut is hot. it wasnt even meant to be mean. he showed a picture of his gut i responded.

You aren't very good at spelling either. lmao

Go back to college? or elementary school for that matter.

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 12:07 PM

actually nothing in that sentence was spelled wrong i just didn't hit the space bar 3 times

**IBdmfkr** · 07-10-2006, 12:25 PM

ohi mus thave rea dit wrong then. LMAO

**tinyguy2** · 07-10-2006, 12:30 PM

Lmao

**chest6** · 07-10-2006, 03:53 PM

Damn..this thread is offically been fvcked

**Surfstud18** · 07-10-2006, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

ohi mus thave rea dit wrong then. LMAO

Haha i like that one

**Surfstud18** · 07-10-2006, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

Damn..this thread is offically been fvcked

I concur I just needed some tips

Guess i'll mix my diet a bit with the vet's and keep doing am cardio

**IBdmfkr** · 07-11-2006, 12:59 AM

Refer to my posts and my thread on dieting but make proper changes and possibly seperate carbs/fat because your metabolism differs from mine.

Keep us posted in the next few weeks so we can reevaluate and rearrange your diet as needed.

**bor** · 07-11-2006, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Refer to my posts and my thread on dieting but make proper changes and possibly seperate carbs/fat because your metabolism differs from mine.

Keep us posted in the next few weeks so we can reevaluate and rearrange your diet as needed.

You look AWESOME in your new avatar!

**IBdmfkr** · 07-11-2006, 09:40 AM

Thanks bro.. dieting for contest so I'm still a bit chubby

7wks to go, I'm sure I'll change it every few wks to show progress.

**Surfstud18** · 07-11-2006, 12:46 PM

Meal 1
9:30 a.m.
6oz chicken breast + muli V + 2 tsp flax
[ (274 cal) + (0 carbs) + (28g fat) + (7 pro) ]

Meal 2: Pro/fat
11:30 a.m.
2 scoops whey + multi vitamin + 1000mg Vit C + 2 tsp flax
[ (264cal) + (1 carbs) + (28g fat) + (2 pro) ]

Meal 3: Pro/carb
1:30 p.m.
1 can tuna + 2 slices wheat bread + 200mg chromium + 100mg b-complex
[ (335 cal) + (26 carbs) + (4g fat) + (49 pro) ]

Work Out 2:30-3:30 p.m.

Meal 4: PWO Pro/carb
3:45 p.m.
1 ½ cups oats + 2 scoops whey + 200mg chromium + 100mg b-complex
[ ( 318 cal) + (46 carbs) + (10g fat) + (10 pro) ]

Meal 5: Pro/fat
6:00 p.m.
6oz chicken breast + 2 tsp flax + muli V
[ (274 cal) + (0 carbs) + (28g fat) + (7 pro) ]

Meal 6: Pro/fat
8:00 p.m.
2 scoops whey + 1000mg Vit C
[ (23 cal) + (1 carbs) + (1g fat) + (2 pro) ]

Meal 7: Pro/fat
10:00 p.m.
1 can tuna + 3 egg whites + 2 tsp flax
[ (642 cal) + (1 carbs) + (43g fat) + (60 pro) ]
I couldn't figure out just the white on the eggs

[ (1856 cal) + (75 carbs) + (142 fat) +(137 Pro) ]= Total

**Surfstud18** · 07-11-2006, 12:47 PM

I'll give this diet plan a run for a couple of weeks and keep y'all posted i'm at 243lbs right now and in size 36

**IBdmfkr** · 07-11-2006, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Surfstud18

Meal 1
9:30 a.m.
6oz chicken breast + muli V + 2 tsp flax too much fat lower to 1tsp flax, 7grams of protein? you're a bit off bro.. try 30-40grams
[ (274 cal) + (0 carbs) + (28g fat) + (7 pro) ]
Prot (35)/carbs (0)/ Fat (14) = calories/266
Meal 2: Pro/fat
11:30 a.m.
2 scoops whey + multi vitamin + 1000mg Vit C + 2 tsp flax Again too much flax, add a bit of complex carbs in this meal, try something like this below
[ (264cal) + (1 carbs) + (28g fat) + (2 pro) ]
6oz chicken + 100g sweet potato (30carbs)
Prot (40) / Carbs (30) / Fat (0) = calories/280

Meal 3: Pro/carb
1:30 p.m.
1 can tuna + 2 slices wheat bread + 200mg chromium + 100mg b-complex
[ (335 cal) + (26 carbs) + (4g fat) + (49 pro) ]
GOOD

Work Out 2:30-3:30 p.m.

Meal 4: PWO Pro/carb
3:45 p.m.
1 ½ cups oats + 2 scoops whey + 200mg chromium + 100mg b-complex
[ ( 318 cal) + (46 carbs) + (10g fat) + (10 pro) ]
Each 1/2 cup oats contains 27carbs, your math is off.
Try 1cup oats + 2scoops whey plus extras.
Prot (50) / Carbs (55) / Fat (5) = calories/460

Meal 5: Pro/fat
6:00 p.m.
6oz chicken breast + 2 tsp flax + muli V I'd go with a Prot/Carb meal again, last one for the day
[ (274 cal) + (0 carbs) + (28g fat) + (7 pro) ]
Try 6oz chicken + 100g B.Rice (approx 30carbs)
Prot (40) + Carbs (30) + Fat (0) = calories/280

Meal 6: Pro/fat Try whole food here, drop the supplements except for PWO only8:00 p.m.
2 scoops whey + 1000mg Vit C
[ (23 cal) + (1 carbs) + (1g fat) + (2 pro) ]
Easy meal, 8oz salmon + 1 cup veggies
prot (40) + Carbs (5) + Fat (12) = calories/290

Meal 7: Pro/fat
10:00 p.m. This is ok, add some veggies to help slow protein absorbtion, 1cup should be good also drop flax to 1serving.. too much fat here.
1 can tuna + 3 egg whites + 2 tsp flax
[ (642 cal) + (1 carbs) + (43g fat) + (60 pro) ]
I couldn't figure out just the white on the eggs Approx 3g protein/eggwhite I believe, buy them in liquid form.. egg beats, easy to measure
[ (1856 cal) + (75 carbs) + (142 fat) +(137 Pro) ]= Total
[ (2360 cal) + (145carbs) + (60 fat) +(310 Pro) ]= Total My calculations

Here's my suggestions.. I think it'll be much better for you to lose weight and hold LBM.. I'd either do Morning cardio before the first meal.. 30-45mins or do it in the evening at 11pm and push your 10pm meal back until cardio is complete, PWO is always an option as well. JMO.

**novastepp** · 07-11-2006, 01:19 PM

surf, whats going on man. i guess those guys trying to flame you don't know you verey well and assume you sat on your ass for no reason. f*ck them. now your protein macros in what you have posted is too low, HOWEVER it is just calculated wrong. i have it around 285g. but that is still low. and you have way too much whey in there. can you take in say 2cans of tuna in the place of some of that whey? whole foods are going to make you feel fuller longer and why is absorbed so fast it would be a longer protein balance with the whole foods. meal 5 drop the fat and add some form of a lowGI carb in there. your fat is too high IMO. and PPWO should almost always be a pro/carb meal, especially when you have time for a pro/fat meal before bed. that will help you balance some carbs and fats out. why not drop teh fat in meal one as well and have like 3-4oz of sweet potato in its place. there are a few things i noticed off hand. good luck and i admire your strength to get back into the game. you'll do fine.

-nOva