Negative calorie Foods

**jonny101** · 07-07-2008, 05:20 PM

Iv been hearing alot about negative calorie foods lately iv searched them and read quite alot , but its all "facts" no real life knowledge.
i just wonderd if anyone had been on a Negative calorie food diet and how well it workd for weight loss

**novastepp** · 07-07-2008, 07:21 PM

no such thing as a negative-calorie food. i'd be interested to read what you've been reading.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 07-07-2008, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

no such thing as a negative-calorie food. i'd be interested to read what you've been reading.

I think it has to do with something like celery.
In which you burn more calories digesting/metabolizing the celery, than you actually consume eating the celery.

Or something like that...

**B.E.N.** · 07-08-2008, 12:49 PM

The idea is that you burn more calories to digest them than they actually provide. But the fact is, there is no such thing as a negative calorie food. While some fruits and vegetables are extremely low in calories, none actually burn fat. Eat them to fill up on fewer calories, but make no mistake: they will not reverse the calories from the chocolate cake you eat in the same day.

**mick86** · 07-08-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by B.E.N.

The idea is that you burn more calories to digest them than they actually provide. But the fact is, there is no such thing as a negative calorie food. While some fruits and vegetables are extremely low in calories, none actually burn fat. Eat them to fill up on fewer calories, but make no mistake: they will not reverse the calories from the chocolate cake you eat in the same day.

What!! I have been grossly misinformed. No wonder I'm fat

**novastepp** · 07-08-2008, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

I think it has to do with something like celery.
In which you burn more calories digesting/metabolizing the celery, than you actually consume eating the celery.

Or something like that...

not true. that is a myth. the calories are nearly negligible, but are still present.

**RuhlFreak55** · 07-08-2008, 07:39 PM

lol some idiot in my CPR class tried to claim that like.....all fruits and vegetables pretty much were this.....i told her she was a moron

**MuscleScience** · 07-08-2008, 07:42 PM

Actually if you drink a glass of ice water the amount of heat lost to the water via heat transfer is roughly 11kcals of energy.

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 07-08-2008, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Actually if you drink a glass of ice water the amount of heat lost to the water via heat transfer is roughly 11kcals of energy.

Thus this is why they tell you to drink 16 oz of chilled water right when you wake up.

**DSM4Life** · 07-09-2008, 05:05 AM

Fibrous Vegetables

Alfalfa Sprouts
Artichoke Hearts
Arugula
Asparagus
Avocado
Bamboo Shoots
Bean Sprouts
Beet Greens
Bock Choy
Broccoli
Brussels Sprouts
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Celery
Celery Root
Chard
Chicory
Chives
Collard Greens
Cucumber
Dandelion Greens
Eggplant
Endive
Escarole
Fennel
Hearts of Palm
Jicama
Kale
Kohlrabi
Leeks
Lettuce
Mache
Millie lettuce
Mushrooms
Okra
Olives
Onion
Parsley
Peppers
Pumpkin
Radicchio
Radishes
Rhubarb
Sauerkraut
Scallions
Snow Pea Pods
Sorrel
Spaghetti Squash
Spinach
String beans
Summer Squash
Tomato
Turnips
Water Chestnuts
Wax beans

**naturalsux** · 07-09-2008, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by novastepp

not true. that is a myth. the calories are nearly negligible, but are still present.

im pretty sure i read that in Chris Acetos book, about burning more calories to process green fibrous veggies than whats in them.

how do you know its a myth?

thanks

**MuscleScience** · 07-09-2008, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by naturalsux

im pretty sure i read that in Chris Acetos book, about burning more calories to process green fibrous veggies than whats in them.

how do you know its a myth?

thanks

I have never read where greens have a negative energy content. Its just that the carbohydrate content that can be assimilated by the human body is very low. Humans have no enzymes to breakdown cellulose which is the cell wall of plant cells. However the bacteria in our intestines can. We derive some energy indirectly from cellulose in the for of Free Fatty Acids that the bacteria produce as a by product of metabolism. The estimated energy that we derive is between 1.5 to 2.5 kcals per gram of plant matter. Couple that with the fact that about 80%of the energy content of everything we eat is lost as heat or metabolic waste and one can see how little energy humans really assimilate to do work in the body from green plant matter.

**StoneGRMI** · 07-09-2008, 09:00 AM

A guy at the bar that put lemon in his beer once told me that lemons have low calories and more protein than steak so he wants them in his beer so he's still consuming a lot of protein. I didn't know what to say or do so I just got up and walked away.

**naturalsux** · 07-09-2008, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

I have never read where greens have a negative energy content. Its just that the carbohydrate content that can be assimilated by the human body is very low. Humans have no enzymes to breakdown cellulose which is the cell wall of plant cells. However the bacteria in our intestines can. We derive some energy indirectly from cellulose in the for of Free Fatty Acids that the bacteria produce as a by product of metabolism. The estimated energy that we derive is between 1.5 to 2.5 kcals per gram of plant matter. Couple that with the fact that about 80%of the energy content of everything we eat is lost as heat or metabolic waste and one can see how little energy humans really assimilate to do work in the body from green plant matter.

i will look when i get a chance. not trying to argue, just stating what i read or thought i read.

it was either everything you need to know about fat loss or championship bodybuilding.

**jonny101** · 07-09-2008, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by novastepp

no such thing as a negative-calorie food. i'd be interested to read what you've been reading.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X3qsNrRh5E
this is where i see it

**calgarian** · 07-09-2008, 11:38 AM

http://www.weightlossforall.com/nega...foods-list.htm

There was thread started little while ago and the thread starter refer to this web site. I dont know how much of this is true

**MuscleScience** · 07-09-2008, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by naturalsux

i will look when i get a chance. not trying to argue, just stating what i read or thought i read.

it was either everything you need to know about fat loss or championship bodybuilding.

I know what you mean, i wasnt trying to state you were wrong, I simple have never read that but that doesnt mean its not true.

**abbot138** · 07-10-2008, 01:47 PM

Whenever I hear someone talk about negative calories I ask them this. "When you eat a steak are you netting out the calories that it takes your body to chew and digest the food, no, so why would you do it with any other food." Just my 2 cents worth.

**MuscleScience** · 07-10-2008, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by abbot138

Whenever I hear someone talk about negative calories I ask them this. "When you eat a steak are you netting out the calories that it takes your body to chew and digest the food, no, so why would you do it with any other food." Just my 2 cents worth.

You dont have to, its already accounted for. The human body only assimilates about 20-25% of the total caloric intake that it takes in. The rest is lost as heat and metabolic waste.

**abbot138** · 07-10-2008, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

You dont have to, its already accounted for. The human body only assimilates about 20-25% of the total caloric intake that it takes in. The rest is lost as heat and metabolic waste.

Right thats what Im saying, if you count something as a "negative calorie," then you are basically double counting the calories burned while eating it bc those should already have been taken into account when calculating you caloric needs...did that make sense, lol!

**mkrulic** · 07-11-2008, 07:21 PM

I read that you spend 20% of intake calories in digestion of protien, between 8 and 12% for carbs and 2% for fat. reference, "The Testosterone Advantage"

**FallenWyvern** · 07-11-2008, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by StoneGRMI

A guy at the bar that put lemon in his beer once told me that lemons have low calories and more protein than steak so he wants them in his beer so he's still consuming a lot of protein. I didn't know what to say or do so I just got up and walked away.

You were at a bar discussing diet?

You did the right thing.