Milk and bodybuilding - do they mix?

**Polska** · 07-31-2008, 11:50 PM

I came across this article by Big Cat... it makes me want to try incorporating milk a lot more into my diet; especially while bulking. Anybody else drinkin lots of milk?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catmilk.htm

**EatLiftGrow** · 08-01-2008, 01:28 AM

I was looking for articles on milk today. I would i also like to know if anyone is drinking plenty of milk. Good Link bro.

**toneloc85** · 08-02-2008, 01:54 PM

i mix all my shakes with milk 2% except the one in the morning before the gym,and drink one glass with a later dinner meal, have noticed good gains in lean weight and not much fat. however my base metabolic rate is like 2500 calories at rest, and i work in a auto manufacturing plant that has me sweating balls 8 hours a day so could be different for you. shakes taste great though!

**AdamGH** · 08-02-2008, 03:22 PM

also read this:

Don't Drink Your Milk!

http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no_milk.htm

**green22** · 08-02-2008, 09:18 PM

Ive used skim and 1% for 10 years and I feel that it has done nothing but help. For a comp. diet I dont think it would be a good idea though but I dont compete so maybe some guys that do can help ansure that one. But for just size, strength, general health I say go for it.

**Jakt** · 08-03-2008, 05:52 PM

when dieting for shoots no, but i incorporate all foofd, milk and cheese, pastas, timing is all, and everyones body is diff..

theres some dude, with "the best abs in the world" as arnold says, he diets and using milk/ cottage cheese!!!

**novastepp** · 08-03-2008, 06:10 PM

i love milk, cottage cheese, and cheese alone. i've been using dairy for a long time... well ever since i began lifting a few years ago it's been a staple. the benefits of whey and casein are unmatched imo. from person to person dairy use should be gauged by wether or not you have an allergy to it. i'm guessing around 80ish% of humans have an allergy to cow's milk, and depending on the degree of that allergy, one should monitor their milk/dairy consumption.

**TranscriptionFactor** · 08-03-2008, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by AdamGH

also read this:

Don't Drink Your Milk!

http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no_milk.htm

whoa, shit...did anyone else read this? Scared me and now I'm confused.
So what, is it like ok to drink Organic milk and not ultra pastuerized?

I grew up drinking lots of milk. I got real tall. Also got a whole bunch of fat all over my torso.

My wife only drinks Organic, and not that much. But she is Croatian and has always said practically all American food is unhealthy. I buy the regular stuff for myself cause its cheaper.

What's a man to do?

**stpete** · 08-03-2008, 06:42 PM

Milk is a major player in my diet. Always has been. I drink 16oz in the morning with my breakfast, and another 16oz before bed with a banana. Now, i don't know if this would be beneficial for a comp. diet or not, but i wouldn't go without it even for a day.

**B.E.N.** · 08-04-2008, 11:15 AM

I have increased my milk consumptation after doing some reading and research. It seems the protein to carb ratio in milk is great for post workout. I generally mix my whey powder with milk for a post workout drink.

I have also read repeatedly that milk actually hydrates the body better than gatorade or other sports drinks. (Not that you would want to drink milk during exercise but following exercise.)

I have increased my milk consumption based upon what I have read.

Like Nova said though it may depend on your body's sensitivity to dairy.

**novastepp** · 08-04-2008, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by B.E.N.

I have increased my milk consumptation after doing some reading and research. It seems the protein to carb ratio in milk is great for post workout. I generally mix my whey powder with milk for a post workout drink.

I have also read repeatedly that milk actually hydrates the body better than gatorade or other sports drinks. (Not that you would want to drink milk during exercise but following exercise.)

I have increased my milk consumption based upon what I have read.

Like Nova said though it may depend on your body's sensitivity to dairy.

it does have more sodium and potassium than any sports drink i've come across.

**MikeMilo** · 02-27-2009, 03:14 PM

I have heard that whenever they break down the door to a sexual deviant's place there is always a jug of ice cold milk in the fridge. hmm...
I think you blood type has a lot to do with it. Type Bs like milk. Milk likes type Bs.

**xnotoriousx** · 02-28-2009, 12:09 AM

If your bulking, add it. If not, I think it's best to keep the milk to a minimum.

I just wish someone would come in with a hard hit and close this controversy once and for all. "It's good for you"

"NO! It's bad for you!"

**B.E.N.** · 02-28-2009, 06:56 AM

I think this 'controversy' has been closed. If you are not lactosed intolerant or not on a cutting diet the benefits of milk are enormous. Milk's anti-catabolic/anabolic properties even outperform whey protein in research.

**ghettoboyd** · 02-28-2009, 07:59 AM

i too am pro-milk. i use it in my shake when i wake up and post workout. any other shakes i may take in like pre workout i just use water.

**jnewton86** · 02-28-2009, 09:19 AM

as arnold said in pumping iron " milk is for baby's"

**FallenWyvern** · 02-28-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by B.E.N.

I think this 'controversy' has been closed. If you are not lactosed intolerant or not on a cutting diet the benefits of milk are enormous. Milk's anti-catabolic/anabolic properties even outperform whey protein in research.

Yup!

**B.E.N.** · 05-27-2009, 11:37 AM

Got Milk?

Cycling champion Kristin Armstrong was recently asked the secret to
her success (she won a gold medal in the recent Olympics in China.
Her answer? She told Idaho Health that it was "chocolate milk."
Why? She revealed "I use chocolate milk as my recovery drink after
races and workouts. The carbohydrates fuel my muscles after
exercise. The protein reduces muscle breakdown and stimulates
growth. And milk’s natural electrolytes help restore fluid balance."
Is Kristin correct? And how does it pertain to hard gainers? Kristin
is right on target. The latest research indicates that milk is the
best post workout recovery choice. In spite of what Gatorade says,
milk is a far better post workout drink. Unfortunately Gatorade
lacks protein. Studies have shown that the availability of free
amino acids immediately after exercise increased muscle anabolism by
increasing protein synthesis and decreasing protein breakdown. It
turns out that protein is a vital recovery factor, and if you neglect
this factor you miss out on the full prospect that your exercise
session can provide.

Protein intake appears to be particularly important in exercises
which result in muscle damage, such as repetitive power workouts
to exhaustion and eccentric exercise (producing force during muscle
lengthening - as noted in the Training & Conditioning Journal).

In addition to getting protein, getting the right type of protein
is also enhances the recovery effort further. The right type of
amino acid intake for recovery includes a lot of leucine. Donald
Layman, University of Illinois nutrition professor, points out that
taking the amino acid leucine right after a workout can shorten the
downtime your body needs between workouts. Layman’s studies
demonstrated that when leucine was ingested within 15 minutes of
the completion of a workout, the leucine appeared to quick-start
the protein rebuilding process - exhibiting that muscles can
recover more quickly, and that the body can be better prepared for
the next round of hard core training. Guess what contains a lot
of leucine? Milk.

A study at Virginia Tech University found that circulating amino
acids rose for those who took milk after exercise (specifically
resistance training-weight lifting exercise) and decreased for
those in the carbo only and placebo groups. Sorry again, Gatorade!

The final factor in favor of milk as the perfect post workout
choice is the fact that it is liquid. Liquid gets put to work
quicker than solid food, and this gives it the edge on other
forms of protein such as steak, eggs, etc, for the quickest
action to start muscle recovery.

Milk is a simple but super effective post workout recovery aid.
Try some the next time you workout – within 15 minutes of the
completion of the routine.

Author bio

Dwayne Hines II is the Editor-at-Large for OnFitness magazine and
has written for a variety of national magazines, including Ironman,
MuscleMag, BlackBelt and Men’s Workout. He has acted as a
bodybuilding contest judge, is a certified personal trainer with
the National Strength and Conditioning Association and has
several bodybuilding and fitness books selling in major
bookstores such as Barnes and Noble.

**B.E.N.** · 05-27-2009, 11:45 AM

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**C_Bino** · 05-27-2009, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by B.E.N.

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So an olympic athlete has fallen into the chocolate milk hype and now it MUST be good?

Give me a break. If you wanna drink milk go for it people, but to say its leading to all of the success in athletics is far from the truth.

Chocolate milk especially...its filled with tons of additives and thickeners such as carageenan, its devoid of immunoglobulins and probiotics and digestive enzymes because they boil the piss out of it, vitamins and minerals lost as well.

The argument is just so fundamental and people fall into it. Let me explain:
"It has protein to rebuild my muscles FAST and carbs to refill my glycogen WHOA!!"

Its an advertisement paid for by dairy farmers LMAO.

So yes it has protein and carbs...like I said above, very processed forms. So do people actually think that chocolate milk would be better than egg whites and sweet potatoe for PWO?

Another thing, show me a bodybuilder who drinks milk after training.

**C_Bino** · 05-27-2009, 12:26 PM

There is also a reason why almost 100% of babies can drink mothers milk and more than half of the adult population complains of some sort of discomfort/intolerance when consuming milk. The amount of enzymes needed for lactose digestion decline greatly after childhood.

**B.E.N.** · 05-27-2009, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

So an olympic athlete has fallen into the chocolate milk hype and now it MUST be good?

Give me a break. If you wanna drink milk go for it people, but to say its leading to all of the success in athletics is far from the truth. I don't think the article says 'drinking milk will lead to your success as an athlete.' I just shows the benefits of milk in your diet...possibly PWO.

Chocolate milk especially...its filled with tons of additives and thickeners such as carageenan, its devoid of immunoglobulins and probiotics and digestive enzymes because they boil the piss out of it, vitamins and minerals lost as well. I get you with say chocolate milk...not stopping at a Shell station to get my PWO shake.

The argument is just so fundamental and people fall into it. Let me explain:
"It has protein to rebuild my muscles FAST and carbs to refill my glycogen WHOA!!"

Its an advertisement paid for by dairy farmers LMAO. Was not this either...

So yes it has protein and carbs...like I said above, very processed forms. So do people actually think that chocolate milk would be better than egg whites and sweet potatoe for PWO? Did not say that either...it compared recovery to Gatorade. Which I think you agree is garbage. Most...most people are not lifting and hustling down egg whites with baked sweet potatoes. Milk is a better option than probably many of the garbage protein powders on GNC shelves.

Another thing, show me a bodybuilder who drinks milk after training.

I can post many research article promoting milk for recovery. I'm just saying...it has its place and people bashing milk are probably the ones that should give it a look. If you are a competive BB...okay I get it...you don't like it in your diet. But for most I think they should be reconsidering.

Ever been to Olypmic Village in CO? There is some money going into the place and the athletes. Just saying I don't think they paid this women way to China and let her compete eating pop tarts every morning.

**collar** · 05-27-2009, 03:39 PM

i personally dont drink milk

also caused too much problems when i did take it.

**swol_je** · 09-14-2009, 09:45 AM

Dave Palumbo said that mixing your whey with milk actually turns the whey into a much more slower absorbing protein and thus is not good for post workout.

**marcus300** · 09-14-2009, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

So an olympic athlete has fallen into the chocolate milk hype and now it MUST be good?

Give me a break. If you wanna drink milk go for it people, but to say its leading to all of the success in athletics is far from the truth.

Chocolate milk especially...its filled with tons of additives and thickeners such as carageenan, its devoid of immunoglobulins and probiotics and digestive enzymes because they boil the piss out of it, vitamins and minerals lost as well.

The argument is just so fundamental and people fall into it. Let me explain:
"It has protein to rebuild my muscles FAST and carbs to refill my glycogen WHOA!!"

Its an advertisement paid for by dairy farmers LMAO.

So yes it has protein and carbs...like I said above, very processed forms. So do people actually think that chocolate milk would be better than egg whites and sweet potatoe for PWO?

Another thing, show me a bodybuilder who drinks milk after training.

Originally Posted by C_Bino

There is also a reason why almost 100% of babies can drink mothers milk and more than half of the adult population complains of some sort of discomfort/intolerance when consuming milk. The amount of enzymes needed for lactose digestion decline greatly after childhood.

A wealth of knowledge as usual Bino