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    Calorie Deficit for Clen/T3 Cycle???

    Hey guys,

    Just wondering how much of a calorie deficit one should have while running a 6 week Clen /T3 cycle.

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    6 weeks of clen ?? Usually it's 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, or do you plan on adding benadryl?

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    I would suggest running a low dose of test with the T3 or it will burn muscle fast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden708 View Post
    6 weeks of clen?? Usually it's 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, or do you plan on adding benadryl?
    I'm running Ketotifen for weeks 2-6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M302_Imola View Post
    I would suggest running a low dose of test with the T3 or it will burn muscle fast!
    I'm running a natural test booster for the duration of the cycle. Also, I've read that Ketotifen has some anti-catabolic properties.

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    Maybe the best thing to do would be to not run a calorie deficit at all. The clen will free up fat to be burned, and the T3 will increase my metabolism. Could I increase my protien intake by 20g per day so as to preserve muscle.

    This was my original post with my planned cycle and information:

    I am planning a 6 week cutting cycle and would appreciate any input or advice. Thanks

    My stats at this time:
    5'10"
    205lbs
    11% BF

    My diet is very clean right now. Around 2500 Cal/Day
    300-320 grams protien
    60 grams carbs - low days (M,W,Th,Sat)
    or 140 grams carbs - medium days (Sun,T,F)
    60-70 grams fats (mostly good fats)

    Workouts:
    Sun: off or 1hr walking on treadmill
    M,W,F: HIT Lifting Routine and 30min walk in evening
    Tues: 30min run/30min walk and 20min swim in evening
    Thur: Wind Sprints 10x20yd & 10x40yd and 20min swim in evening
    Sat: 1 hr walk

    Using:
    Liquid Clenbuterol - 100mcg/mL
    Ketotifen - 1mg tablets
    T3/T4 Cytomix - 80mcg tablets (60mcg T3/20mcg T4)

    Cycle:
    Week 1: Clen - Tapering up dosage to no more than 160 mcg/day (testing my tolerance)

    Weeks 2-3: Clen - 160 mcg ed.
    Ketotifen - 2 mg before bed ed.

    Weeks 4-6: Clen - 160 mcg ed. Tapering down dosage at end of week 6.
    Ketotifen - 2 mg before bed ed.
    T3/T4 Cytomix - Tapering up dosage to 90mcg T3/30mcg T4 ed.

    I will taper down my dosage of T3/T4 at the end of week 6.


    I will be supplementing Taurine at 4-5 grams per day and Postassium at 200-400 mcg per day to prevent cramping.

    I am on ECA right now at 25/200/325 with 20 mg of Yohimbine HCl ed.

    I will cut out the Ephedrine, but I was wondering if I could continue running the Caffine, Aspirin, and the Yohimbine?


    Thank You again for your advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauler_25 View Post
    Maybe the best thing to do would be to not run a calorie deficit at all. The clen will free up fat to be burned, and the T3 will increase my metabolism. Could I increase my protien intake by 20g per day so as to preserve muscle.
    where did you read that?
    This was my original post with my planned cycle and information:

    I am planning a 6 week cutting cycle and would appreciate any input or advice. Thanks

    My stats at this time:
    5'10"
    205lbs
    11% BF

    My diet is very clean right now. Around 2500 Cal/Day
    300-320 grams protien
    60 grams carbs - low days (M,W,Th,Sat)
    or 140 grams carbs - medium days (Sun,T,F)
    60-70 grams fats (mostly good fats)

    Workouts:
    Sun: off or 1hr walking on treadmill
    M,W,F: HIT Lifting Routine and 30min walk in evening
    Tues: 30min run/30min walk and 20min swim in evening
    Thur: Wind Sprints 10x20yd & 10x40yd and 20min swim in evening
    Sat: 1 hr walk

    Using:
    Liquid Clenbuterol - 100mcg/mL
    Ketotifen - 1mg tablets
    T3/T4 Cytomix - 80mcg tablets (60mcg T3/20mcg T4)

    Cycle:
    Week 1: Clen - Tapering up dosage to no more than 160 mcg/day (testing my tolerance)

    Weeks 2-3: Clen - 160 mcg ed.
    Ketotifen - 2 mg before bed ed.

    Weeks 4-6: Clen - 160 mcg ed. Tapering down dosage at end of week 6.
    Ketotifen - 2 mg before bed ed.
    T3/T4 Cytomix - Tapering up dosage to 90mcg T3/30mcg T4 ed.

    I will taper down my dosage of T3/T4 at the end of week 6.
    start tapering down slowly at week 5

    I will be supplementing Taurine at 4-5 grams per day and Postassium at 200-400 mcg per day to prevent cramping.

    I am on ECA right now at 25/200/325 with 20 mg of Yohimbine HCl ed.

    I will cut out the Ephedrine, but I was wondering if I could continue running the Caffine, Aspirin, and the Yohimbine?
    if there a reason you want to do this? if not then i would drop it or you'll be shaking nonstop and will probably have trouble sleeping

    Thank You again for your advice.
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    Phate:

    I read that clen will help free up fat at an information page on a website that sells steriods and clen. If this is not the case, I apologize; I tried to research Clen the best I could. If you want to read the information page I can PM you the page address.

    I was going to continue with the caffine, aspirn, and yombine for a little added energy. However, if you don't think that is wise, I will cut it out of my cycle.

    Also, I took your advice and I have checked my temperature for two days while I've been on the clen. My temperature is the same as it was when I took my average temp over three days before I began taking the clen. I suspect that my clen is not legit. Being a newbie, I guess I should expect to get bad product a couple times before I find good sources.

    Thanks for all your help Phate, this newbie appreciates it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauler_25 View Post
    Phate:

    I read that clen will help free up fat at an information page on a website that sells steriods and clen. If this is not the case, I apologize; I tried to research Clen the best I could. If you want to read the information page I can PM you the page address.

    I was going to continue with the caffine, aspirn, and yombine for a little added energy. However, if you don't think that is wise, I will cut it out of my cycle.

    Also, I took your advice and I have checked my temperature for two days while I've been on the clen. My temperature is the same as it was when I took my average temp over three days before I began taking the clen. I suspect that my clen is not legit. Being a newbie, I guess I should expect to get bad product a couple times before I find good sources.

    Thanks for all your help Phate, this newbie appreciates it.
    post a pic of it in the steroid pic forum and we'll see if it's legit

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