Milk while strictly cutting?

**ADB007** · 09-23-2009, 03:40 AM

has there been any scientific proof that small amounts of milk is bad for a cut? Besides it's calorie content, which anyone can fit into their daily calorie consumption, are there any other negative effects from milk when cutting?

Some people say not to have milk even in your coffee when strictly cutting? a small amount of milk has hardly any calories, so what is the big problem with milk? I have heard it can make your skin look thicker? is there any scientific proof?

**killface** · 09-23-2009, 04:11 AM

As far as I'm aware, the main reason people stay away from it is because it contains lactose which is a form of sugar. If it fits into your macros or especially if you're just using a splash of it in your coffee, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Also, don't forget about the fat content.

**danny_nufc** · 09-23-2009, 04:36 AM

I have whole milk in my cup of tea even when losing weight for boxing and its never done me any harm pal. Made no difference whatsoever.

**jamyjamjr** · 09-23-2009, 09:05 AM

milk = simple sugars = insulin spike

**ADB007** · 09-23-2009, 10:15 AM

^^^
Thanks. that makes sense.
Do you stay away from milk on a cut?

**POPS** · 09-23-2009, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by ADB007

^^^
Thanks. that makes sense.
Do you stay away from milk on a cut?

absolutely. My biggest problem in my diet in the past was the sugar. I didnt know what a negative effect sugar has on the fat loosing process. If I knew this 2 years ago my bf would be a lot lower than it is now.....

**jfalco** · 09-24-2009, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

milk = simple sugars = insulin spike

Hmmm....

This is a surprising comment from you. Milk has a GI value of about 30. How can it cause an insulin spike?

**jamyjamjr** · 09-24-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by jfalco

Hmmm....

This is a surprising comment from you. Milk has a GI value of about 30. How can it cause an insulin spike?

yea i was under the mistaken idea that it was 52.. lol

**jamyjamjr** · 09-23-2009, 02:52 PM

yup..

***FireGuy*** · 09-23-2009, 02:58 PM

Just FYI-Skim milk rates a 32 on the glycemic index. There are some valid reasons to avoid it but avoiding an insulin spike probably isnt one of them.

**jamyjamjr** · 09-23-2009, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

Just FYI-Skim milk rates a 32 on the glycemic index. There are some valid reasons to avoid it but avoiding an insulin spike probably isnt one of them.

which index did u use fire?? i could have sworn i read 52...

**jfalco** · 09-24-2009, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

Just FYI-Skim milk rates a 32 on the glycemic index. There are some valid reasons to avoid it but avoiding an insulin spike probably isnt one of them.

What are the valid reasons for avoiding milk?

Only thing I can think of is that a lot of folks have trouble digesting lactose, and it makes you fart a lot.

***FireGuy*** · 09-24-2009, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by jfalco

What are the valid reasons for avoiding milk?

Only thing I can think of is that a lot of folks have trouble digesting lactose, and it makes you fart a lot.

Check the link in my previous post, lots of good info in that thread.

***FireGuy*** · 09-23-2009, 07:49 PM

I just now checked 3 seperate ones online and they all list it at 32.

**jamyjamjr** · 09-23-2009, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

I just now checked 3 seperate ones online and they all list it at 32.

weird... your right, i just checked it too.. must have been my mistake..

***FireGuy*** · 09-23-2009, 10:25 PM

If it makes you feel any better I was surprised at how low it was the first time I saw it as well.

**MuscleScience** · 09-23-2009, 10:32 PM

Yep you can thank the beta 1-4 linkages that are difficult for the body to break down for milks low GI an GL. I have posted either here or somewhere else a couple studies about milk and its usual purposes in BB. I am of the opinion that its like many other nutrients, it has its place in BB. If your going to consume a carb source while cutting I would think that something with a very low GI would be a appropriate choice, What do you guys think Jamy and fireguy???

***FireGuy*** · 09-23-2009, 10:36 PM

I will have it now and then but not a huge milk drinker. I usually cut it out of my diet for contest prep at about 8 weeks out. Bino had some really good info in this thread.

Milk and bodybuilding - do they mix?

**jamyjamjr** · 09-23-2009, 10:47 PM

nice link fire....

iv had nark pull milk out of my diet back in the days.... so iv always been against it....

but im always open to new things. always trying to learn the "next" best thing..

**collar** · 09-24-2009, 04:07 PM

i dont go near milk, too many problems start occuring when i used to drink milk.

but of course it all depends on individual i just dont go near it and dont believe in it.

**jfalco** · 09-24-2009, 04:17 PM

^^I should really read the whole thread before I comment.

**Tigershark** · 09-24-2009, 04:30 PM

I avoid it because if I drink it I have wicked gas. People will not come near me. I am not lactose intolerant or anything because I can eat ice cream with no problem (when I used to eat it ) but milk does it to me.

**jfalco** · 09-24-2009, 04:43 PM

I read the whole thread.

I didn't see any valid reasons to avoid milk in it. Plenty of reasons to avoid chocolate milk, but as far as I can tell milk is pure goodness.

**jfalco** · 09-24-2009, 05:31 PM

Don't worry jamy. You're still my go to guy for diet questions.

**jamyjamjr** · 09-24-2009, 05:37 PM

hey, im not bothered by it.. cant always be right. lol..

that's why we're fortunate to have a coupla guys here who can be looking after each other for slip ups like that...

that guy being fire today.. lol