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    Weighing out your food?

    When you weigh out your food is it before cooked or after? It seems like 8 oz of chicken after cooked ia a lot or is it just me?

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    Always after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal Me In View Post
    Always after.
    huh?

    Before obviously. Food is ALWAYS ​measured in it's raw state.

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    Always before.

    Rice uncooked is 75g a serving whereas after its boiled it turns into 195g. This is because of water absorb. [an example]

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    ok thanks will do it before.

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    Depends on the food, and it also depends on what you're logging on the app you're using.

    On myfitnesspal, it varies depending on the food, for the rice I use, I have to weigh it before, for the meats it's after.

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    on my calculator, it depends as mentioned above. you don't eat chicken raw, and so portion size is referred to in it's cooked state. Grain on the other hand, well, it states cooked, but when I add to a blender meal, it goes in raw. so if you want 1.5 cups cooked, you dump in 0.5 cups raw. Fruit is weighed as eaten. In fact, pretty much everything on my calculator is weighed/measured as eaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    huh?

    Before obviously. Food is ALWAYS ​measured in it's raw state.
    He asked specifically about chicken. You weigh chicken, or any meat, after you cook it. You don't eat it raw so why would you measure it that way?

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    Thanks everyone. I just started doing this. Damn if I havent been starving. I weight out 8 oz of chicken and 4 oz sweet potato and the chicken was double the amount of what I was eating. The potato was just a little more.

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    Weigh after cooked for meats. And yes 8oz of cooked chicken breast is a lot of food. Im eating 6.5 ozs right now with sum dijon mustard and it is tuff to get it all down. With a side of cauliflower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal Me In
    He asked specifically about chicken. You weigh chicken, or any meat, after you cook it. You don't eat it raw so why would you measure it that way?
    Weigh before cook. It doesn't seen right but it is.

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    I'm gonna ask them to weigh my next BBQ Chicken Pizza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal Me In View Post
    He asked specifically about chicken. You weigh chicken, or any meat, after you cook it. You don't eat it raw so why would you measure it that way?
    Because then you know exactly how much you are getting. 8oz chicken raw has the same amount of cals and macro's after it is cooked. If you cook it for 20 mins it weighs more than it does than if you cook it it for 40 minutes but still has the same cals and macro's. That's why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I'm gonna ask them to weigh my next BBQ Chicken Pizza.
    And your ice cream. Don't forget to weight that too!
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    Edit:

    Did a lil googling, I've been wrong this whole time my macros have all been a lie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    And your ice cream. Don't forget to weight that too!
    Forgot that. I'll just set it on my pizza.
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    Bizarre that this question become a discussion. Been asked a million times and the answer is always the same.

    Think I like the Ice Cream on Pizza idea. I would eat that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Because then you know exactly how much you are getting. 8oz chicken raw has the same amount of cals and macro's after it is cooked. If you cook it for 20 mins it weighs more than it does than if you cook it it for 40 minutes but still has the same cals and macro's. That's why.
    BIB, I'm sure you know more about this than I do but this seems really strange. Raw chicken in moist. I always assumed the difference in weight pre and post cooked was the loss of water which would be negligible for macros. If the chicken isn't getting lighter because of a reduction in liquid, what accounts for the reduction in weight?

    Just trying to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazima View Post
    Edit:

    Did a lil googling, I've been wrong this whole time my macros have all been a lie
    This is what I'm thinking. Using this logic, I've been eating way to much food because I measure my meat after I cook it. If I measure it before it will mean much less food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Bizarre that this question become a discussion.
    It is, isn't it. I'm lost in the Nutrition Section but it's always fun to visit and poke fun at you guys and your calculators, then high tail it outta here!
    The day I weigh food or count a calorie is the day I quit lifting. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal Me In View Post
    BIB, I'm sure you know more about this than I do but this seems really strange. Raw chicken in moist. I always assumed the difference in weight pre and post cooked was the loss of water which would be negligible for macros. If the chicken isn't getting lighter because of a reduction in liquid, what accounts for the reduction in weight?

    Just trying to understand.
    You are correct, it is water that is lost. Let's put it this way you have 2 pieces of cooked chicken one weighs 4oz and one weighs 3oz. The 3oz one has been cooked 10 minutes longer than the 4oz one but both were exactly the same weight before they were cooked. So which one of the 2 cooked pieces of chicken has the most protein?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    It is, isn't it. I'm lost in the Nutrition Section but it's always fun to visit and poke fun at you guys and your calculators, then high tail it outta here!
    The day I weigh food or count a calorie is the day I quit lifting. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You are correct, it is water that is lost. Let's put it this way you have 2 pieces of cooked chicken one weighs 4oz and one weighs 3oz. The 3oz one has been cooked 10 minutes longer than the 4oz one but both were exactly the same weight before they were cooked. So which one of the 2 cooked pieces of chicken has the most protein?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    You are correct, it is water that is lost. Let's put it this way you have 2 pieces of cooked chicken one weighs 4oz and one weighs 3oz. The 3oz one has been cooked 10 minutes longer than the 4oz one but both were exactly the same weight before they were cooked. So which one of the 2 cooked pieces of chicken has the most protein?
    Well, I don't want to assume because that's what got my foot stuck in my mouth at the beginning of this thread. I'm going to say they both have the same amount of protein.

    So, just so we can take this through to it's conclusion. Lets say I have a raw chicken breast that weighs 8oz. If we assume 7g of protein per oz then it's 56 grams. The fact that it cooks down to say 5.5oz is not relevant. It still has 56 grams of protein. No nutrients are lost in the cooking process? Right?

    So I've based my diet on eating 6 oz of cooked chicken. Which was probably 8oz raw. So I need to redo my protein macros for the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal Me In View Post
    Well, I don't want to assume because that's what got my foot stuck in my mouth at the beginning of this thread. I'm going to say they both have the same amount of protein.

    Bingo

    So, just so we can take this through to it's conclusion. Lets say I have a raw chicken breast that weighs 8oz. If we assume 7g of protein per oz then it's 56 grams. The fact that it cooks down to say 5.5oz is not relevant. It still has 56 grams of protein. No nutrients are lost in the cooking process? Right?

    Yep. Well, some of the fat will likely cook off but as chicken breast has minimal fat anyway I would worry about it.

    So I've based my diet on eating 6 oz of cooked chicken. Which was probably 8oz raw. So I need to redo my protein macros for the day

    TBH, if you are always eating the same amount and cooking it for the same length of time each time then I wouldn't sweat it. It'll be such a small difference each time that you could just go with doing it how you are. But, yes to be more exact (anal), then weigh before cooking.
    kelkel's comments about not weighing food I like. I can (as I bet he can) eyeball a chicken breast and know it's about the same size I always have so there's no real need to weigh after a while. I can do the same with my oats and potatoes too, I'd be within a few grams of my visual estimation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khazima
    Edit: Did a lil googling, I've been wrong this whole time my macros have all been a lie
    That's how I felt too!

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    Well, I know a high level trainer who trains quite a few pro male and female fitness competetors, and he says weigh meat after cooking for a proper macro content.
    8oz of chicken raw, is not the same as 8oz chicken cooked. Cook the water out

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    hey guys. 1st cycle, running 500 test e a week and 75mg tbol ed. Have been taking adex 0.5 eod since first injection with no sides what so ever until yesterday I had the day off work and was checking for lumps and noticed a small lump but not underneath the nipple nor on the areola, about 2 cm to the left of it. No other gyno sides what so ever, no puffiness nor itching or pain. This lump could have always been here for all I know. just curious if you guys think this is the onset on gyno or something else as I hate taking 1ml eod of adex as it drys my joints out will but will continue if you think its the start of gyno. thanks in advance for any input/help. I know this isn't the right thread sorry just I don't know how to start my own and im quiet paranoid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    kelkel's comments about not weighing food I like. I can (as I bet he can) eyeball a chicken breast and know it's about the same size I always have so there's no real need to weigh after a while. I can do the same with my oats and potatoes too, I'd be within a few grams of my visual estimation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78 View Post
    Well, I know a high level trainer who trains quite a few pro male and female fitness competetors, and he says weigh meat after cooking for a proper macro content.
    8oz of chicken raw, is not the same as 8oz chicken cooked. Cook the water out
    It's only proper if you use the macros for cooked chicken which not many use. The nutritional data on a package of chicken breast is specifically for RAW chicken. This is bc once you cook it and the water comes out it weighs less so if you had measured it after cooking but used the nutritional data for raw chicken you'd be off. 8oz of cooked chicken will have more calories than 8oz of raw chicken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpoff12 View Post
    hey guys. 1st cycle, running 500 test e a week and 75mg tbol ed. Have been taking adex 0.5 eod since first injection with no sides what so ever until yesterday I had the day off work and was checking for lumps and noticed a small lump but not underneath the nipple nor on the areola, about 2 cm to the left of it. No other gyno sides what so ever, no puffiness nor itching or pain. This lump could have always been here for all I know. just curious if you guys think this is the onset on gyno or something else as I hate taking 1ml eod of adex as it drys my joints out will but will continue if you think its the start of gyno. thanks in advance for any input/help. I know this isn't the right thread sorry just I don't know how to start my own and im quiet paranoid
    Start your own thread in the correct place please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    I can (as I bet he can) eyeball a breast and know it's about the same size I always have
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