Serious Mass Gainer by Optimal

**thecoachman** · 12-21-2001, 01:00 PM

Has anyone ever tried this stuff?
It comes in this HUGE bag and has 3750 Cals and 250 carbs and I didn't get a chance to see the other stuff in it.

Is this just all crap cals and carbs? Is this just going to get me FAT or will I put on lean mass while in Test and Eq?

Lookes good but would like to see what you all have to say 1st!!!

Thanks

**PaPaPumP** · 12-21-2001, 04:04 PM

Depends how big you are. If you are 550lbs at 7% yes, that is enough for a snack.

If you're bulking. Maybe split it into quarters and drink it in between 3 wholesome meals. That way, if you don't have a heavy appetite (which you will anyway with EQ) you can easily be able to throw down some liquid.

Good luck.

**thecoachman** · 12-22-2001, 02:50 AM

Even b-4 the Eq. I could eat all day. I just don't want to gian all fat!!!!!!! If I took 1 full scoop divided in 1/4ths in betweens my bigger meals it should'nt just fattn' me up?

I am 5' 8" 187lBS. w. w/ about an inch of fat on
my belly? BF%=15%??????

I just don't know about all the Carbs??

250 a day??
should I take this shake once every 3 days if at all??????????

This seems to good to be true??

need help
going to buy tom. or Sunday

Please give me advice..............

oh, just to let you know , I have gained 17 lbs n AS (Test. and Dbol so far.) mostly water !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thanks

**PaPaPumP** · 12-22-2001, 10:22 PM

Buy "Size up" by Worldwide Nutrition. Use 2/3 of the serving size, that provides 100g of carbs and 30ish grams of protein...add a scoop of straight whey for added protein.

Nice gains so far.

How bout dem Bears?

**thecoachman** · 12-22-2001, 10:54 PM

How many cals for the "size up'?

**PaPaPumP** · 12-23-2001, 02:17 AM

830 i think, kfor a full serving.

150 carbs
52 protein
5 fat

For a full serving...when bulking, i take 2/3 of it with an extra scoop of whey...30+lbs later, here i am.

**Gonna Be HUGE** · 12-23-2001, 06:44 AM

Bro, don't ever take a 1000+ calorie shake all in one sitting! Unless you are a 150lber that can't put on weight, which it doesn't seem like you are. Most of those weight gainers say one full serving is like 4 scoops, so have 1 scoop 2-3 times a day. That would be very conductive to your growing, but won't fatten you up. And like Pimpmaster-Pump said, add in some straight whey protein to the mix to up the protein content. Later