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04-17-2006, 01:59 PM #41
repost, was this copy+pasted?
That's a bold thing to state without giving a thread out where he took the info from.-B D
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04-17-2006, 02:03 PM #42Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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04-17-2006, 02:06 PM #43Associate Member
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Great post, great read
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04-17-2006, 02:09 PM #44Originally Posted by bball_playa
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04-17-2006, 03:44 PM #45
Deff sticky material
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04-17-2006, 03:44 PM #46
Also heard for preventing Prog. Gyno e.g. from Tren , Decca etc that 300-400mg of B6 is good and cheap!
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04-17-2006, 04:25 PM #472/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Maybe he thought the bump up was another post??? Kinda new member.
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04-17-2006, 07:37 PM #48
good stuff!!
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04-17-2006, 07:58 PM #49Anabolic Member
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im gonna harass C_Bino with one more Q.
Would you say letro is better at fat reduction do to its ability to enter the fat cell? Say using it as part of a cutting phase even if not on gear?
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04-17-2006, 11:20 PM #50New Member
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i also have a question
i have slight gyno from genetics but not too worried about it. just don't want anymore heres my question.
I plan on taking nolva for a pct of halodrol. From what i have read, this will block the estrogen from the receptor sites. Since a certain part of the brain is not getting enough estro it tells the balls to start producing more test that the brain thinks will eventually be converted to estrogen. will estrogen levels be rising as they are being blocked? Should i take something that gets rid of the estrogen that will eventually come from the new test? in other words, should i start taking nolva for a pct and then switch to an anti-estrogen towards the end to get rid of this built up estrogen? Should i switch to Letro at the end of the pct or will the estrogen levels not get up too high?
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04-17-2006, 11:58 PM #51
hey c bino....i just took ur advice and got me sum letro....but 1 prob....how much do i take since it comes in a spray???/how would i measure it when i goes by a spray...a hard spray will give more, while a slow push would not...c my prob??? help me out??
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04-18-2006, 12:02 AM #52
and does anyone have any exp. knowledge of rebound xt??
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04-18-2006, 12:37 AM #53
Great post!
you forgot to mention the positive effects of vit B6 (200mcg ED) for preventing/reducing Gyno
Also some Dostinex at 0.5 or even 0.25mg combined with Letro can do wonders.
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04-18-2006, 10:58 AM #54Originally Posted by lane
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04-18-2006, 10:59 AM #55Originally Posted by C_Bino
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04-18-2006, 11:23 AM #56
As for the question about fat-loss (sorry I missed it before, i accidentally skimmed over it). The only thing I can say is that femara has been used in studies to treat obesity. Since serum testosterone can be somewhat lower in obese males due to the slowed synthesis of LH and FSH production, letro has been shown to normalize these serum test levels, as we all know LH and FSH increase with the use of letro and testosterone obviously aids in weight loss we can assume that letro can be used to help with weightloss. However, testosterone levels are only diminished in cases of fairly severe obesity. For most people just looking to lean up more on this site I somewhat question the ability for letro to do the trick so to speak.
If you do want to give this a try I see no problem with doing it off cycle, the normal dose in studies of obesity and testosterone profiles was again 2.5mg per day.
Anyways, to finish off I would honestly say you would be better off using an ECA stack or clen (even though Im not a big fan), over letro. If you are on cycle you could try using letro even if you dont need an AI to see if there is any difference but I would say again running test (usually at a minimum dose of 500mg per week) the impact of letro on weight loss will be slight to say the least, imo you wont be able to notice a difference.
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04-18-2006, 05:45 PM #57Originally Posted by pepperoni
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04-18-2006, 06:05 PM #58New Member
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thanks bino
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04-18-2006, 08:25 PM #59Originally Posted by boxingbean
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04-18-2006, 08:50 PM #60
Great info for all. Thanks Dr.Mc Tits
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04-19-2006, 08:49 PM #61
Just thought I would make an update. I just read a more recent report put out by Novaris on the use of Letrozole to treat breast cancer. As most of us know tamoxifen (nolva) is usually a first line of defense against breast cancer and then letro is used as a more powerful alternative if nolva is not working as well as expected.
Now, we have also been under the impression that running nolva and letro at the same time is not the best idea (as I stated in my original post). Nolvadex has been shown to reduce the blood plasma concentrations of letro by an average of 38%, enough to warrant a decision not to co-administer these drugs.
Now, in this latest research it was shown that blood plasma levels of letrozole WERE NOT diminished with co-administration of nolvadex...IF letrozole was administered directly after nolvadex.
I was very interested in this topic especially after the problem of gyno-reversal during PCT came about and this study was exactly what I was looking for. So although I have not put a tone of research into this and this is only ONE study, it does shed some light on the situation and give us reason to believe running them together, in cases where gyno has appeared during PCT, is not a bad idea.
So I will continue to research but that looks promising to me, so for those of you worrying about letro and nolva during PCT you could give it a try. Also since Letro dose signal LH and FSH production we can be assured it wont negatively affect PCT too much in terms of raising testosterone back up to par.
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04-19-2006, 09:02 PM #622/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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cool
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04-19-2006, 09:16 PM #63
that's some good info. you must just love tits.
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04-20-2006, 12:08 AM #64
Should be made it sticky....right?
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04-20-2006, 01:53 AM #65
bump,,,,good read
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04-20-2006, 07:06 AM #66
excellent thread!
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04-20-2006, 09:57 AM #67New Member
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Thanks allot for this info...I just got my letro today and am gona rum it like u say ..ill keep you guys updated.
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04-20-2006, 11:12 AM #68
good post, bro
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04-20-2006, 12:41 PM #69Originally Posted by Swifto
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04-20-2006, 12:42 PM #70
good read
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04-20-2006, 06:57 PM #71Junior Member
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Only have less than a month till my Surgery, is that enough time to see if the Letro works in my favor?
I really, really don't want the surgery but if I'm gonna get it I need to get it now since it's free and it'll give me time to heal up before I take my physical test for the fire dept.
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04-20-2006, 09:58 PM #72Originally Posted by Jet
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04-23-2006, 09:28 PM #73Junior Member
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Good post.
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04-23-2006, 11:17 PM #74
ok so Im trying to reverse my mild gyno I am currently on day 5 of 2.5mg ED of letro and I have also been taking 20mg nolva ED. Since you said nolva reduces the effectivness of letro, should i drop the nolva until i end the letro (pct)?
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04-24-2006, 12:19 AM #75
damn good gyno post...wish i could pm Bino to ask him a few specific questions...but im new here, i guess i have to wait to use them technologies
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04-24-2006, 01:09 PM #76Originally Posted by briansauras
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04-24-2006, 01:20 PM #77Originally Posted by briansauras
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04-24-2006, 01:31 PM #78Junior Member
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Can Letro get rid of gyno that has been there for a while.
Also how long do I run it for.
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04-24-2006, 01:40 PM #79
Have you read this thread yet?
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04-24-2006, 01:55 PM #80Junior Member
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great post .........
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