"Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT by WARMachine"

**Mammon** · 03-26-2009, 10:43 PM

yep.. sometimes ill even run it higher

**WARMachine** · 03-26-2009, 10:47 PM

Yeah that would be fine bro.

Mammon likes to run between 40-60mgs right?

**Probably** · 03-26-2009, 10:48 PM

is a good read, thanks for the info

**mrdieselone** · 03-26-2009, 10:50 PM

awesome thread brother

**Mammon** · 03-26-2009, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

Yeah that would be fine bro.

Mammon likes to run between 40-60mgs right?

yes sir..

**johnnybigguns** · 03-27-2009, 12:12 AM

Dam good read.
Bump for you.
I think this should be a sticky, it's a very common topic it seems.

**WARMachine** · 03-27-2009, 12:16 AM

Working on your suggestion as we speak.

Admin and the rest of the staff is currently reviewing it to be added in the Newbie Starter Pack and possibly its own sticky.

**bernimx** · 03-27-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by tallyjuice

Funny reading this now. I did a PH cycle recently, got gyno and did a letro/nolva reversal during PCT with clomid. It went away almost completely (and it was pretty bad before). Now, two months later, it just came back. I think I might try going back on the nolva. What do you all think? 20mg/day for 6 weeks (or however long it takes to dissolve) like in the study?

sorry to highjack, but I was wondering, how do you control gyno symptoms for someone doing a PH cycle? I assume you'd jump on nolva just like a regular cycle right

**Mammon** · 03-27-2009, 02:23 PM

yep...

**WARMachine** · 03-28-2009, 03:32 AM

seeing a lot of threads out there! This one will answer most questions!!!

**Probably** · 03-28-2009, 04:05 AM

why isnt this thread sticked yet ? or in educational threads?

**WARMachine** · 03-28-2009, 04:09 AM

Im working on it.

Been discussing it with staff and Admin. Unfortunatly, im not sure when or if its gonna happen.

But response from staff is positive, so im optimistic.

**garythompson** · 03-28-2009, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

lol, i just get up to do cardio early before class

such a determined and commited young lad lol

**peachfuzz** · 03-29-2009, 03:10 PM

War are you ready to tackle "progesterone gyno?" i think it would be a nice addition.

**Ernst** · 03-30-2009, 07:13 PM

Bump

**Mammon** · 03-30-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by peachfuzz

War are you ready to tackle "progesterone gyno?" i think it would be a nice addition.

control estrogen.. done... lol

**1down5up** · 03-31-2009, 12:53 AM

Bump for some good info!!

**WARMachine** · 03-31-2009, 03:40 AM

War are you ready to tackle "progesterone gyno?" i think it would be a nice addition.

Oh yeah i think im ready.

Sorry about the delay on the updates guys, ive been very busy this last week, and likely will be again this week. But ill do my best to get as much in as possible!

Thanks!

-WAR

**murphylee** · 03-31-2009, 01:52 PM

Is it possible to just up an AI dose to reduce ERSE symptoms? Or is a SERM absolutely necessary?

**Mammon** · 03-31-2009, 01:59 PM

personally whether im running an AI or not if symptoms show up i want to block the estrogen from binding to the receptors NOW... so id start the nolvadex.

**murphylee** · 03-31-2009, 02:24 PM

alright, I'm going to do that. And how do I run the nolva through the rest of the cycle...and into PCT?

**Mammon** · 03-31-2009, 02:27 PM

well i run 40-60mg (40mg will probably be fine) until symptoms subside.then 20mg through remainder of cycle and pct.

**murphylee** · 03-31-2009, 02:46 PM

so just straight through?

**Mammon** · 03-31-2009, 02:57 PM

yep...

**murphylee** · 03-31-2009, 03:08 PM

alright man thanks for your help.

***RAGE*** · 03-31-2009, 05:07 PM

bump bump

**murphylee** · 03-31-2009, 05:29 PM

haha i can't not laugh at that avatar

**wakeskate22** · 04-01-2009, 02:35 PM

very informational. good post war. bump

**UrRoyalHighness** · 04-01-2009, 03:17 PM

bump

**murphylee** · 04-01-2009, 03:24 PM

I just thought I would come in here and let ya'll know I upped my dosage of .25 adex EOD to .5 mg adex every day and my gyno symptoms have subsided in just a day and a half

**dude99** · 04-02-2009, 04:45 PM

i am trying to get rid of some gyno ive had for a few years now....letro never worked for me.....should i start nolva @ 40mg right away? or do you taper up like you do with letro?

also is there any sort of PCT for the nova? or when symptoms subside, or when i give up, is there anything i need to take? and should i taper off the nolva?

thanks guys

ooo yea one last question....i have some liquid nolva from the sponsor is here that is about a year old. does this stuff expire? or should i order a new bottle....thanks again

**murphylee** · 04-02-2009, 05:10 PM

The gyno you've had for a few years now won't go away with the nolva, the only thing that probably would have worked was the letro. The longer that stuff stays around, the harder it is to get rid of it.

**dude99** · 04-02-2009, 05:14 PM

i understand that it wont go away completely but the studies that he posted show that people have been able to reduce which would be fine with me because its not that bad to begin with.

anyone else? war?

thanks

**wakeskate22** · 04-04-2009, 04:22 PM

^^^^ i would like to know as well

**Edgar** · 04-04-2009, 05:23 PM

read all post and didnt see any talk about Proviron wich at 100mg ed can be a great addition and its fine with Nolvadex. thought this would be a good point to make. cheers

**CptAmericaX** · 04-04-2009, 07:26 PM

<--- Is a newb just wanted to say thanks for the great oist its good research and added knowledge for Pre-cycle planning.

**murphylee** · 04-05-2009, 06:18 PM

glad to see this is a sticky!

**JiGGaMaN** · 04-05-2009, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

Id actually run more than 20mgs a day. Id say somewhere in the range of 40mgs.

Are you currently on cycle now?

if studies show theres a minimal difference in efficacy between 10 and 20 mg, then why go with 40mg?

**flex.w** · 04-09-2009, 03:36 PM

outstanding thread!are you brazillian?

**Knockout_Power** · 04-09-2009, 04:38 PM

awesome work on this one. This will help so many people who are torn between who to listen to for PCT, poor PCT or just plain estrogen related issues.

Thanx man.

KP

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