What happened to ***** ?

[jeepman06]

Does anyone know what happened to **********? There website does not seem to be working?

[jeepman06]

Sorry,
Does anyone know what happened to the new HRT clinic started by the old reps from the watering hole in the desert?

[wjclinton]

I spoke to a guy who works for the competition named after a clump of sand in south Miami and he says the former manager of the former HRT clinic named after the watering hole in the desert is in jail. I really wouldn't be surprised. I also spoke to another gentleman who said he was having trouble getting his order, this wasn't a surprise either.

[shrpskn]

If you've been following the news you would know what happened...

[wjclinton]

shrpskn you are right. I did check into Life yadda yadda yadda x that sprung from the former reps from that watering hole in the desert and they were in the middle of the signature debacle. I now have spoken to a few sources that say the old manager went to jail, if that's is the case? Ouch.

[Jack Rabbit Slim]

If anybody uses life yadda yadda x please PM me. I recieved a letter titled dear patients and I can not read it. It must be sent in a program my computer don't have. If you have recieved this letter also I would like to know the content of it. I cannot get a hold of anybody there.I spoke to him a few days ago and He said thier website was down due to what happened with sig pharm and it need updates to the disclamers.

[StevePJC]

The Life X guys keep trying to send some sort of update out but the message is unreadable. Visited their site and put two and two together. Believe they're gone as well.

[wjclinton]

The new board sponsor took care of me after Oased melt down and are still around and good to go after this signature fiasco. So I'm very happy I went with them and had nothing to do with the Life x chain gang.

[TheSentinal]

The new board sponsor took care of me after Oased melt down and are still around and good to go after this signature fiasco. So I'm very happy I went with them and had nothing to do with the Life x chain gang.

I have contacted the new sponsor and spoke to 2 guys there. Both have told me if your test is over 500 there is nothing they can do. Not to hijak the thread, but they seem very conservative and will shut out a lot of us.

[getagrip]

I went with the new company and I have spoke to the doctor twice their great to work with and their going to be around .their legit pm if you want to know who I went to.

[jeepman06]

The Life X guys keep trying to send some sort of update out but the message is unreadable. Visited their site and put two and two together. Believe they're gone as well.

The Life X guys are still around. The update can be read using a patch from microsoft. You can download the patch (update to microsoft office for 2007)
and read the file.

[jeepman06]

Looks like the board sponser and the thread describing their new HRT clinic have vanished as well. I think the whole HRT world is changing.

[StevePJC]

I tried updating but got an error. I'll try again I guess.

[ecs44]

I just got an order from life ........ their changing their web site to add new disclaimers because the bs going on.I would advise reading their e-mail so you dont say the wrong thing when ordering.As far as I know no one in their company has gone to jail,there is just a lot of mud slinging by a few companys wanting to get more clients during this time of termoil.I say if your happy then stay with the company your with but be careful its an uncertain time.Its not worth jail time.

[ecs44]

I just got an order from life ........ their changing their web site to add new disclaimers because the bs going on.I would advise reading their e-mail so you dont say the wrong thing when ordering.As far as I know no one in their company has gone to jail,there is just a lot of mud slinging by a few companys wanting to get more clients during this time of termoil.I say if your happy then stay with the company your with but be careful its an uncertain time.Its not worth jail time.

[~Admin~]

That company has been listed on the indictement and the cops are looking for them.

[Jack Rabbit Slim]

I have found out from one of the owners that they will be out of the HRT business. They will be selling only OTC products, not sure what they are yet. If the Cops are looking for them I am sure they can contact thier lawyers or just call them.

[rockbottom]

I have found out from one of the owners that they will be out of the HRT business. They will be selling only OTC products, not sure what they are yet. If the Cops are looking for them I am sure they can contact thier lawyers or just call them.

Good thing. I just spent six days in the hospital getting over something they sold me (as a result of a prescription issued after a face to face interview with a doctor and major lab work).

Creatine helps more anyway.

[wjclinton]

Sorry to hear that Rockbottom, are you going to be ok? Do you believe this was due to the quality of the product?

[rockbottom]

Sorry to hear that Rockbottom, are you going to be ok? Do you believe this was due to the quality of the product?

Thanks. Definitely a product issue.

I'll be fine. I'm on the mend, but it'll be a while until I'm 100%. Only problem is that I've been forced to quit hrt with no pct.

[Hedo]

What product was it Rockbottom? Was it from the compounder they used in Calif? Contamination?

[rockbottom]

What product was it Rockbottom? Was it from the compounder they used in Calif? Contamination?

California. Tritest.

Must've been contamination or just bad compound. Literally every treatment area developed a nasty abscess. I've never gotten ANY of these before, and have always observed proper protocol. I think my employer is afraid I'm covering up some serious disease. . . .

[Lavinco]

Alot of hrt clinics are under the microscope right now. I read this article a couple weeks ago right after I saw the new hrt sponsor of this site and thought "Oh shit! And I just contacted them.";
the story from USA Today

Steroids are just a click away

By Sal Ruibal, USA TODAY
Police and federal law enforcement officials are trying a new tactic in the war on performance-enhancing drug use.

Instead of pursuing and arresting the usual array of street smugglers, hangers-on and entourage-based dealers, the new plan targets Internet pharmacies that can guide buyers through the maze of compliant, prescription-writing physicians with a few clicks of a mouse.

A series of raids Tuesday by federal and state police, led by Albany County (N.Y.) District Attorney P. David Soares, focused on major online suppliers such as Signature Pharmacy in Orlando and Applied Pharmacy Services in Mobile, Ala.

"We have investigated, and are prosecuting, one of the largest narcotics and steroid distributors in the nation," Soares said in a statement Wednesday.

Those so-called "compounding pharmacies" are allowed by federal law to manufacture drugs if the formulas are not readily available through traditional retail outlets.

Investigators say the pharmacies took advantage of those loopholes to create online markets in steroids and human growth hormone (HGH).

"Compounding pharmacies … make what you sort of need or want, special orders of things, but they do it very rapidly and very efficiently and all by the Internet," says Don Catlin, director of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory. "This is different from the (BALCO case figure) Victor Conte. And it does mean that it's going to have a broader base."

Like the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative investigation, there have been leaks of links to some well-known athletes, including boxer Evander Holyfield. Wednesday he denied using steroids.

" I resent that my name has been linked to known steroid users by sources who refuse to be identified in order to generate publicity for their investigation," he said. "I'm disappointed that certain members of the media fell for this ploy and chose to use my name in headlines and publish my photo alongside stories in today's newspaper about an investigation into a practice that has nothing to do with me."

Catching star athletes is not the point, says Lt. Carl Metzger, narcotics commander for Orlando's Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation.

Gary Gaffney says focusing on suppliers instead of users won't work.

Gaffney, an associate professor of child psychology and behavior at the University of Iowa and founder of the blog Steroid Nation, says, "The effects of knocking out an online pharmacy is only temporary; a new guy is going to pop up. We've seen that when players get caught, they go scot-free and the dealers get arrested. Someone just takes their place."

Gary Wadler, a member of the World Anti-Doping Agency, says the Internet is a good place to start cracking down.

"The Internet represents a marked area of vulnerability. There are no borders.

"Who knows why you're buying? The Internet represents a challenge for the sale and distribution of performance-enhancing drugs.

"Who is the most comfortable with the Internet? Kids, the same people who have the air of indestructibility."

***

Contributing: Kevin Johnson in Washington, D.C., and Jill Lieber Steeg in San Diego
Posted 2/28/2007 11:25 PM ET
Updated 3/1/2007 12:27 AM ET

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2007-...id-focus_x.htm

[wjclinton]

Rockbottom really sorry to hear about your health issue!! It sounds like this was from Central yadda pharmacy in LA was it the injectible anavar or winstrol ? The reason I went with the HRT clinics was I thought they were operating legally. Even more important was that I get a quality product one that I knew was quality and didn't have to worry about infections, etc.

[Hedo]

California. Tritest.

Must've been contamination or just bad compound. Literally every treatment area developed a nasty abscess. I've never gotten ANY of these before, and have always observed proper protocol. I think my employer is afraid I'm covering up some serious disease. . . .

Sorryto hear that bro. I've had a lot of stuff from them, Cyp and Anavar mainly. No issues in the past. Doesn't sound like it's going to be an issue going forward the way things are heading. Hope all is well.

[rockbottom]

Sorryto hear that bro. I've had a lot of stuff from them, Cyp and Anavar mainly. No issues in the past. Doesn't sound like it's going to be an issue going forward the way things are heading. Hope all is well.

Never had a problem with the cyp or deca . Started having problems immediately with the tritest. The swelling was so bad you could see it through my pants (I know, that's what she said). The manager of the desert shangrila, however, assured me this was normal. So, I underwent a fever for two weeks, thinking I had the flu or something. All the while, attempting to get off the painful stuff by purchasing some cyp instead. But my calls and emails were ignored. After two weeks of fever, I'd had enough (still thinking illness because of my "friends" professional assurances), went to the hospital for some antibiotics, and they kidnapped me. Wouldn't let me go for a week. Said my white blood cell count was 2x the norm. Now I hear I have the unlucky honor of being on the same list as Evander Holyfield.

An endo wants to switch me to cream. Anyone know pros and cons?

I've still gotten better gains from creatine.

[wjclinton]

Hey bro, glad to hear your doing better. Tritest, I'm not familiar with it. Sounds as if it's a blend of the different test esthers. I've gotten some good results from AAS, tHey certainly didn't come wthout some side effects.

The idiots from the former water hole in the desert are complete slime. Hopefully they will get placed in some low income government housing with a special roomate named Bruno. They'd probably like that.

Good luck!!!

[Jack Rabbit Slim]

Rock bottom, If you get better results from Creatine, then why are you contemplating the cream for? Just use creatine. Why mess with something that is alot more money and the side effects are worse.

[rockbottom]

Rock bottom, If you get better results from Creatine, then why are you contemplating the cream for? Just use creatine. Why mess with something that is alot more money and the side effects are worse.

Fair question - For the same reason I started this whole process in the first place: very low test. Bodybuilding was always a secondary goal (albeit a close second) to being able to think, get out of bed in the a.m., and have a healthy marriage.

I'm worried about the cream b/c it may not be enough. For example, my dad had levels over 1000 (naturally) at 50. My brother is at 900 (naturally) at 49. I'm below 400 at 33.

So, the bottom line is, it's a medical issue. Still, I was hoping for better gains.

[wjclinton]

This is the best news article I could find on the former people at the watering hole in the desert.

http://www.fox23news.com/news/local/...6-5845cd183d52

If anyone has more information I'd love to see it.

oops my bad this ones better!

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...home-headlines

[rockbottom]

The clinic's marketing chief, A.J. Peterson, was charged Friday in Albany. Clinic President Elaine Sorrells and Vice President Courtney Sorrells-Loceff are to be charged this week, prosecutors said. None could be reached with phone messages last week.

Mother****er. And I was trying to be too legit to quit. **** it. I quit.

[rockbottom]

Mother****ers!

[StevePJC]

I'm just absolutely speachless. I'm one gullible sonofabitch but I could have sworn that buying from places like the desert watering hold was perfectly legal. AJ, if you read this, I hope you rot.

[wjclinton]

I've got to admit I don't feel sorry for the life yadda x weasels and the former owner/employees of the pond in the desert. Screw them, they had less concern for their clients than dealer Mcblow.

[StevePJC]

My whole thing is simple. If I'm going the black market way, than fine. I KNOW that's where I'm going. In this instance, I thought this was legal, so to find out I was duped just makes things worse.

Just incase I reccomend everyone who used the "thought to be legal" HRT route to place fraud alerts on your credit reports. Awful personal information had to be passed over so you never know what might happen. The old Desert Pond personnel are criminals you know.

I know it seems like I'm whining like a 340 pound bitch girl I'm just ticked. Thought I had a better route than my docs 1 shot a month plan. Haven't felt this good in years and shudder at the thought of losing it. Kinda like being kicked in the balls.

[wjclinton]

I know exactly how you feel. When these bums took my order and for weeks keep telling me the order was in the mail. They slammed my credit card with no intention of sending me my order I felt the next thing would be identity theft. These guys are criminals and ID theft is easy. At least the local gym distributor isn't representing himself as a legitimate medical clinic.

The firm that took over for the desert pond scum has been good to me. I do trust them they are not cheap and all this crap in the news I am sure will make it necessary for them to tighten their procedures. I'm not worried about getting bunk gear from them and I don't think they'll be in the news, but this whole BS fiasco will make it difficult for legitimate HRT businesses!

[jeepman06]

I think i will just wait and see how all the scandles play out and effect the HRT business. I have allready been thru 2 clinics in my first 6 months of Hrt, and I don't feel like starting new again.

[rockbottom]

I think i will just wait and see how all the scandles play out and effect the HRT business. I have allready been thru 2 clinics in my first 6 months of Hrt, and I don't feel like starting new again.

Agreed.

They will go away. The new rule is face-to-face.

[wjclinton]

All I know is the less HRT clinics around the more expensive and the harder the product will be to get. With Rockbottom getting bad product it makes me concerned about what HRT clinic I go to because of quality issues.

[spywizard]

nothing wrong with face to face..

there are many docs that will open up clincs... no issues..