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    What is your HRT regimen?

    I thought it would be good to see the different therapies people are on and the results people have seen. If this has already been done, please flame me and I will cease this thread...

    I am currently on 300 mg of test a week, and a winnie/anavar combo (injectable) 50 mgs each 3 times a week. Results have been good. I have used this to try and lean up. Still lifting, but upped the cardio, and lowered the calories.

    This will end in 3 weeks, and then I am moving to 300 mg of test and 200 mg of deca a week. I will use this as more of a bulking regimen, but clean.

    My therapy runs in 10 week increments. I then take 2 to 4 weeks to pause and run typical PCT meds (HCG and Tamox), then start next 10 weeks.

    Others??

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    ive been off the hgh for awhile now because insurance is workin some stuff out but the main difference i felt with the hgh was in my joints

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOne View Post
    I thought it would be good to see the different therapies people are on and the results people have seen. If this has already been done, please flame me and I will cease this thread...

    I am currently on 300 mg of test a week, and a winnie/anavar combo (injectable) 50 mgs each 3 times a week. Results have been good. I have used this to try and lean up. Still lifting, but upped the cardio, and lowered the calories.

    This will end in 3 weeks, and then I am moving to 300 mg of test and 200 mg of deca a week. I will use this as more of a bulking regimen, but clean.

    My therapy runs in 10 week increments. I then take 2 to 4 weeks to pause and run typical PCT meds (HCG and Tamox), then start next 10 weeks.

    Others??
    That sounds more like a cycle than TRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOne View Post
    I thought it would be good to see the different therapies people are on and the results people have seen. If this has already been done, please flame me and I will cease this thread...

    I am currently on 300 mg of test a week, and a winnie/anavar combo (injectable) 50 mgs each 3 times a week. Results have been good. I have used this to try and lean up. Still lifting, but upped the cardio, and lowered the calories.

    This will end in 3 weeks, and then I am moving to 300 mg of test and 200 mg of deca a week. I will use this as more of a bulking regimen, but clean.

    My therapy runs in 10 week increments. I then take 2 to 4 weeks to pause and run typical PCT meds (HCG and Tamox), then start next 10 weeks.

    Others??
    So isnt this a lean bulker...??which isnt bad for lean bulking buuuuuuut

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR PHATT ASS View Post
    So isnt this a lean bulker...??which isnt bad for lean bulking buuuuuuut
    I assume you are talking about the latter, but yes... and, I guess I would say that has more to do with diet and training than the meds...

    Interested in what others are doing for TRT...

    what is the buuuuuuut for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR PHATT ASS View Post
    So isnt this a lean bulker...??which isnt bad for lean bulking buuuuuuut
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Bolt View Post
    That sounds more like a cycle than TRT.
    ok...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOne View Post
    I assume you are talking about the latter, but yes... and, I guess I would say that has more to do with diet and training than the meds...

    Interested in what others are doing for TRT...

    what is the buuuuuuut for?
    I'm finding this section is very informative because of my age and all.(early 40s).I see what your talkn about asfar as what others are doing..I thought your goal was TRT buuuuuuut using a lean bulker cycle..Actually thats the kinda of cycle (just test/deca )I wanna do between my trt...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOne View Post
    I thought it would be good to see the different therapies people are on and the results people have seen. If this has already been done, please flame me and I will cease this thread...

    I am currently on 300 mg of test a week, and a winnie/anavar combo (injectable) 50 mgs each 3 times a week. Results have been good. I have used this to try and lean up. Still lifting, but upped the cardio, and lowered the calories.

    This will end in 3 weeks, and then I am moving to 300 mg of test and 200 mg of deca a week. I will use this as more of a bulking regimen, but clean.

    My therapy runs in 10 week increments. I then take 2 to 4 weeks to pause and run typical PCT meds (HCG and Tamox), then start next 10 weeks.

    Others??
    Dude this is clearly a cycle and not TRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    Dude this is clearly a cycle and not TRT.
    Guys, I change this up every 10 weeks. At times it is lower dosages, sometimes higher. These are just the 2 most recent examples. If you want to call it a cycle, call it a cycle (very low dose you would agree - no doubt).

    That said, I did not want a critique, no offense...

    Let's hear what everyone's therapy consists of. That was my goal with this thread... Thought it would be good for everyone to compare notes / experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOne View Post
    Guys, I change this up every 10 weeks. At times it is lower dosages, sometimes higher. These are just the 2 most recent examples. If you want to call it a cycle, call it a cycle (very low dose you would agree - no doubt).

    That said, I did not want a critique, no offense...

    Let's hear what everyone's therapy consists of. That was my goal with this thread... Thought it would be good for everyone to compare notes / experiences.
    My TRT is 150mg Test E a week and 0.25mg Adex twice a week. Thats it

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    HRT clinics are notorious for wanting to sell actual cycles in order to make profit.

    Your body will need breaks from these cycles & orals or you will run into many problems.

    I'm with Kale. 150mgs/Weeks Test E.

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    I am not on trt, but if I ever jump into it this is what I will try to get from my doc.

    150mg/week test e
    .25 mg of adex twice a week (just like Kale)
    hcg 250iu twice a week every other or 3rd week.

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    This works good for me too.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    My TRT is 150mg Test E a week and 0.25mg Adex twice a week. Thats it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottomaddox View Post
    This works good for me too.
    bout where im at too

    replacement doses

    no frills like gtone

    family doc said eh eh to the anavar big party pooper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    My TRT is 150mg Test E a week and 0.25mg Adex twice a week. Thats it
    I guess you're taking arimidex to avoid a potential testosterone aromatization , right ? Is it really necessary ? Don't forget that all the time you stop taking stuff like Arimidex/Nolvadex you could develop a rebound effect and your estrogen levels will raise dramatically.
    Another way could be taking 25 mg. of Proviron everyday but , on the other hand , taking DHT stuff like mesterolone - expecially for long time - will kill your prostate .

    About my experience, or better says experiments(I want to see wich kind of testo works better for my body)......here's to you :

    Androgel 40 mg. twice a day x 35 days :
    Free testosterone increased from 85 to 150 (range 90 - 300)
    Estrogen increased from 42 to 45 (range 30 - 60 )
    LH decreased from 5.3 to 0.7 (range 5.00 - 11.00)
    FSH decreased from 5.2 to 0.5 (range 5.00 - 12.00)
    % Free Testosterone increased from 1.79% to 2.36% (range 2% - 5%)
    Total Test. increased from 420 to 690 (range 500 - 1000)

    Since a month I've switched the gel to 6 Andriol tabl. a day , soon I will check my blood again and I will post the results.
    Androgel was ok but nothing special , not so bad about sexual activity but almost nothing about anything else. After a month of Andriol I'm feeling a bit better , strenght and endurance improve but far from the old days of testoviron 250.

    At the end I will back to enanthate , I know...It's just a question of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testomaster View Post
    I guess you're taking arimidex to avoid a potential testosterone aromatization , right ? Is it really necessary ? Don't forget that all the time you stop taking stuff like Arimidex/Nolvadex you could develop a rebound effect and your estrogen levels will raise dramatically.
    [/B].

    At the end I will back to enanthate , I know...It's just a question of time.

    Yes we take Adex to keep estrogen in line.

    Adex & nolva do not cause a rebound that I'm aware.

    Androgel did not do a thing for me.

    Andriol is also a poor choice due to poor absorption rate, and frequent times to take throughout the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK View Post
    Yes we take Adex to keep estrogen in line.

    Adex & nolva do not cause a rebound that I'm aware.

    Androgel did not do a thing for me.

    Andriol is also a poor choice due to poor absorption rate, and frequent times to take throughout the day.
    Thanx for the answ.

    Can I ask you how do you know your estrogen level is high ? Do you check it or it's something you can see or feel it (gyno,loss of libido,etc..).

    Time ago , when I did competion , I took Nolvadex /proviron and or Arimidex to prevent gyno and aromatization in general ,and infact my estro level was over the limit but I was on 1000 mg. a week .

    I thought that with 150mg of enathate a week there was no need of anti-estrogen therapy.

    Thanx again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testomaster View Post
    I guess you're taking arimidex to avoid a potential testosterone aromatization , right ? Is it really necessary ? Don't forget that all the time you stop taking stuff like Arimidex/Nolvadex you could develop a rebound effect and your estrogen levels will raise dramatically.
    Another way could be taking 25 mg. of Proviron everyday but , on the other hand , taking DHT stuff like mesterolone - expecially for long time - will kill your prostate .

    About my experience, or better says experiments(I want to see wich kind of testo works better for my body)......here's to you :

    Androgel 40 mg. twice a day x 35 days :
    Free testosterone increased from 85 to 150 (range 90 - 300)
    Estrogen increased from 42 to 45 (range 30 - 60 )
    LH decreased from 5.3 to 0.7 (range 5.00 - 11.00)
    FSH decreased from 5.2 to 0.5 (range 5.00 - 12.00)
    % Free Testosterone increased from 1.79% to 2.36% (range 2% - 5%)
    Total Test. increased from 420 to 690 (range 500 - 1000)

    Since a month I've switched the gel to 6 Andriol tabl. a day , soon I will check my blood again and I will post the results.
    Androgel was ok but nothing special , not so bad about sexual activity but almost nothing about anything else. After a month of Andriol I'm feeling a bit better , strenght and endurance improve but far from the old days of testoviron 250.

    At the end I will back to enanthate , I know...It's just a question of time.
    I take to Adex to deliberately keep my Estrogen levels very low. I have Prostate issues and I am convinced that Prostate problems are caused by too much Estrogen and not by to much Testosterone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testomaster View Post
    Thanx for the answ.

    Can I ask you how do you know your estrogen level is high ? Do you check it or it's something you can see or feel it (gyno,loss of libido,etc..).

    Time ago , when I did competion , I took Nolvadex /proviron and or Arimidex to prevent gyno and aromatization in general ,and infact my estro level was over the limit but I was on 1000 mg. a week .

    I thought that with 150mg of enathate a week there was no need of anti-estrogen therapy.

    Thanx again.
    I know my estrogen is high from my blood work by the doc.

    I can also tell when I get some bloat and get puffy nipples.

    150mgs causes excess estrogen in me. But I am very prone to estrogenic sides. Many don't have any estrogenic problems with low doses. Some people can run 1 gram a week and not get gyno or any other serious estrogenic sides...Even minimal bloat.

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    trt or not

    Well Im almost 50 and big cycles are a thing of the past.Im with most of the guys to a point.TRT is 150 to 200 mg a week test e or c.I do change it a little through the year. To hold size 220 lbs I do a light cycle of eq,about 300mg wk with my test for 8 wks then finish with Tren e 100mg wk for 4 wks.I also add masterone to this to hold down the big nasty E.After this I go on trt doses to maintain.Im with Kayle estrogen in mind is the real culprit.I just dont think you can really hold much size without doing a little extra now and then.Lets call it turbo charged trt.Hope this sheds some light.

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    200mgs Test Cyp/every 10 days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Joe View Post
    200mgs Test Cyp/every 10 days!

    That's no good, considering the ACTIVE life of the compound is 12 days.

    It would be better if you switched to 100mgs every 5th day.

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    In Europe the norm is Testoviron 250 (enanthate ) every 2 weeks. It seems that enanthate has a longer active life than cypionate .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testomaster View Post
    In Europe the norm is Testoviron 250 (enanthate) every 2 weeks. It seems that enanthate has a longer active life than cypionate.
    It actually has a shorter one. Almost 2 days in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK View Post
    HRT clinics are notorious for wanting to sell actual cycles in order to make profit.

    Your body will need breaks from these cycles & orals or you will run into many problems.

    I'm with Kale. 150mgs/Weeks Test E.
    Agreed, and, yes, I take breaks (actually stop all together on occasion and certainly lower the dosages to say, 100 - 150 mg a week) for periods of time - I guess this makes the current 10 week period a cycle, but it certainly not as potent as a "regular" AAS cycle).

    Also, I am not taking any orals...

    Forgot to mention I also take 1.0 mg Anastrozele 3 times a week to keep e in control.

    Bloodwork every 90 days...

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    For those that are taking in the 150mg a week range, do you see benefits in the gym and body composition? It probably depends on how low you were to start with, but curious. Or, do you just strictly see the "other" benefits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK View Post
    It actually has a shorter one. Almost 2 days in fact.
    So are you saying that 200mg of enanthate a week are not enough ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOne View Post
    For those that are taking in the 150mg a week range, do you see benefits in the gym and body composition? It probably depends on how low you were to start with, but curious. Or, do you just strictly see the "other" benefits?
    Overall better feeling of health including increased Libido. Not as tired.
    Body comp - Slow & steady fat loss along with muscle gain * nothing drastic by any means* More along the lines of maintaining gains, but it is possible to gain & cut with 150mgs.


    Quote Originally Posted by Testomaster View Post
    So are you saying that 200mg of enanthate a week are not enough ?
    200mgs/week of enanthate is plenty.
    200mgs enanthate is the same as 200mgs cypionate .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG_TRUCK View Post

    200mgs/week of enanthate is plenty.
    200mgs enanthate is the same as 200mgs cypionate.
    What about taking Nolvadex instead of Arimidex to keep estr. in control ...
    Any difference ?

    Arimidex is too expensive.... 28 tbl. 1 mg. = 164.00 €

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testomaster View Post
    What about taking Nolvadex instead of Arimidex to keep estr. in control ...
    Any difference ?

    Arimidex is too expensive.... 28 tbl. 1 mg. = 164.00 €

    Nolva is good.

    Better for your cholesterol, and effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOne View Post
    For those that are taking in the 150mg a week range, do you see benefits in the gym and body composition? It probably depends on how low you were to start with, but curious. Or, do you just strictly see the "other" benefits?
    for me...it took a few years of tying different doses to dial in around 125 EW or 150 e10days(now)....with the change in the gym yes from even early on just on androgel to now shots...body comp changed from 22% bf to as low as 11%...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOne View Post
    For those that are taking in the 150mg a week range, do you see benefits in the gym and body composition? It probably depends on how low you were to start with, but curious. Or, do you just strictly see the "other" benefits?
    once my T started getting into the normal range i notice a big difference at the gym.

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    Nolva is good.

    Better for your cholesterol, and effective.
    Talking about HRT , do you think Nolva should be taken in the same way as Arimidex ?
    For exampl. 200mg.cyp. a week + 10 or 20 mg. Nolva twice a week ....or 10/20 mg. every day ?

    Thanx again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    for me...it took a few years of tying different doses to dial in around 125 EW or 150 e10days(now)....with the change in the gym yes from even early on just on androgel to now shots...body comp changed from 22% bf to as low as 11%...
    Good stuff

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    200mg/test c a week. levels stay around 500. I was at 93 when I started!

    Any reason you guys are on test E and not C?

    I assume watson makes it, if ur in the US and RX'ed it?

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    200 mgs cyp week, .25 arimidex eod.

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    Sun - 250IU of HCG
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    Thu – .5mg Anastrozole & 70mg of Test Cyp. (Evening Shot)

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    Don't understand why HCG during TRT ....

    If it's an external testosterone replacement therapy why should we try to stimulate testicles to produce endogenous testosterone ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testomaster View Post
    Don't understand why HCG during TRT ....

    If it's an external testosterone replacement therapy why should we try to stimulate testicles to produce endogenous testosterone ?
    it's to keep your balls producing other hormones including extra T.

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