Man i have the worse luck!!!!!!!!!!!beyond pissed

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-19-2011, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by bass

you maybe right Bullseye! i really hope you get the right script! nothing worse than being on a roller-coaster with TRT!

you got that right lol

**turkishexpress** · 05-19-2011, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by jpkman

it is very rare for a trt dose to be above 200mg ew and bullseyes 600mg and then 300mg cut back were the first i've ever heard...and like you stated at nearly 300lbs, i've never heard a man's weight being an issue in determining dose...i've only heard that theory here and there....but..

dude..is that you in your avy...wut r ur stats now if so and a little about your trt please

Well that photo was from a couple of years ago when I was about 265 and not on TRT but healthy amounts of test and homemade tren a. Right now I'm on 200mg test along with 1iu of serostim. I fluctuate between 300 and 270 depending on how cut I want to look or how strong I want to be by just adjusting my diet and the test. But I don't like going over 400mg per week at my highest. It works for me.

**Firestorm#1** · 05-19-2011, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever

well today i went to the pharmacy to get my test filled for my trt,and it was my last one,so i had the pharmacist call my endo and get me another presrcrition,and the nurse told her that that had lowered my dose to 150mg/week!!

...and i have been on 300mg/week for a long time,everything has been coming together,i got my estro down and i was actually feeling better.

My last appt with him was the last week of april,and my test results was 487ng/dl.......and my endo told me to stay on the same dose 300mg/week and so did his nurse when she called and gave me my blood test results,im so friggin pissed right now,ive called my endo several times tonight,and left messages,and im gonna call him first thing in the morning,he better take 5 mintues and talk to me,i live 70 miles from his office,and i am not spending the money for this high ass gas to drive down for an appt,hes got some explaining to do,pronto!! and if he doesnt put my dose back up to 300mg/week,i am going to tell him or his nurse to kiss my MFing ass and i will medicate myself with my trt,ic ould just knock his friggin teeth out

sorry for the rant guys,but im just so pissed right now!!!!!

I understand. I first went to a endo and he wanted to put me on gel. I went to my family doc and he gaveme what I wanted and the best thing is that my insurance covers it. I only call in every 6 months and he gives me a new script.

**Firestorm#1** · 05-19-2011, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by turkishexpress

Dayum I'm 6' and was 296 when my doctor prescribed me my TRT and it was only 200mg/week. I didn't know they prescribed such high dosages.

If you get the right doc they will give you what you want when it comes to amount. I have a doc that gives me the same dosage that I got from sources. Some docs are hard to deal with and some can be very helpful. I think the way you ask them helps with on the outcome. My doc toldme that he writes scripsfor test all the time and he did not like how the FDA tries to control something that is natuarl in our bodies. He said as long as I do not any side effects with the amount he would increase as I wanted it. I told him he better not leave his practice. LOL

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-19-2011, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Firestorm#1

If you get the right doc they will give you what you want when it comes to amount. I have a doc that gives me the same dosage that I got from sources. Some docs are hard to deal with and some can be very helpful. I think the way you ask them helps with on the outcome. My doc toldme that he writes scripsfor test all the time and he did not like how the FDA tries to control something that is natuarl in our bodies. He said as long as I do not any side effects with the amount he would increase as I wanted it. I told him he better not leave his practice. LOL

thats great man,i hope my new one is like that as well!!

**bass** · 05-19-2011, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Firestorm#1

If you get the right doc they will give you what you want when it comes to amount. I have a doc that gives me the same dosage that I got from sources. Some docs are hard to deal with and some can be very helpful. I think the way you ask them helps with on the outcome. My doc toldme that he writes scripsfor test all the time and he did not like how the FDA tries to control something that is natuarl in our bodies. He said as long as I do not any side effects with the amount he would increase as I wanted it. I told him he better not leave his practice. LOL

very scary for a doctor to give you what you ask for!

**JD250** · 05-19-2011, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by bass

very scary for a doctor to give you what you ask for!

I can see your point Bass but my clinic will do the same thing to a degree, I dont think his doc would give him ANYTHING he asked for, there does have to be some sort of protocol for any script written, more a figure of speech than anything else. However, what scares me is docs who write scripts for 100mgs every other week....so for me its all about taking control of my health, could I abuse it? absolutely, but I think I'm still safer than being with a DOC that doesnt know what hes doing.

**bass** · 05-20-2011, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by JD250

I can see your point Bass but my clinic will do the same thing to a degree, I dont think his doc would give him ANYTHING he asked for, there does have to be some sort of protocol for any script written, more a figure of speech than anything else. However, what scares me is docs who write scripts for 100mgs every other week....so for me its all about taking control of my health, could I abuse it? absolutely, but I think I'm still safer than being with a DOC that doesnt know what hes doing.

very true! and i agree, i would rather have this kind of a doc than one that prescribes me 100 eow!

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-20-2011, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by JD250

I can see your point Bass but my clinic will do the same thing to a degree, I dont think his doc would give him ANYTHING he asked for, there does have to be some sort of protocol for any script written, more a figure of speech than anything else. However, what scares me is docs who write scripts for 100mgs every other week....so for me its all about taking control of my health, could I abuse it? absolutely, but I think I'm still safer than being with a DOC that doesnt know what hes doing.

Originally Posted by bass

very true! and i agree, i would rather have this kind of a doc than one that prescribes me 100 eow!

guys i agree totally,and most dont know what they are doing,because they dont understand how your body reacts,most just use one protocol for everyone

**zaggahamma** · 05-20-2011, 07:28 AM

well 2 things i've learned in this thread...

1 ...gonna start brewin tren

2...movin to tennessee

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-20-2011, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by jpkman

well 2 things i've learned in this thread...

1 ...gonna start brewin tren

2...movin to tennessee

lol...dont move to mississippi lol

**zaggahamma** · 05-20-2011, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever

lol...dont move to mississippi lol

nope...dont wanna have to spell that..did than enuff as a little snotter...

movin to trenbelone, tennessee

yeeeee hahhh

**lifter65** · 05-20-2011, 02:15 PM

endos suck, been on trt for 6 weeks now and balls are shrinking and endo says he doesnt feel comfortable givin gme hcg , wtf?

**bass** · 05-20-2011, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by lifter65

endos suck, been on trt for 6 weeks now and balls are shrinking and endo says he doesnt feel comfortable givin gme hcg, wtf?

so its okay with him that your balls are melting?! what a loon!

**JD250** · 05-20-2011, 04:05 PM

Maybe he thinks your balls are too big, he should know, after all he IS an endo. These guys are scarey, and they want us to trust them.....sheeeesh!!! Makes ya want to go underground doesnt it.

**lifter65** · 05-20-2011, 04:26 PM

yeah im probably going to have to

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-21-2011, 06:07 AM

Well to update my situation,my GP set me up with a new Endo,but the bad news is that she couldnt get me an appt till October!! so im really ****ed now,i dont know what to do,although my GP told me that she would write me my srcrips until i could see the new endo,of my regular dose of 300mg/week,i still have concerns about other issues about endocrine problems and my GP doesnt want to over see my appts and help me cause she is not qualified in that field,i guess i will havt to wait it out,just my luck,and i did call my former endo and give him my personal opinion on his decision and told him i really appreciated him screwing me up,so i got my word in to him and told him to go back to school and learn how to treat his patients in need of help

**JD250** · 05-21-2011, 10:18 AM

Well at least you have a GP that is honest and will TRY to help you for now, does your insurance pay for this?

**Chichester** · 05-21-2011, 10:21 AM

It took me SIX endocrinologists to get a precription for Growth Hormone , even with test results showing I needed it. Because it's controversial.

PS Don't talk bad about Mississippi!

**lifter65** · 05-21-2011, 02:09 PM

what was your growth hormone number, and what is the range?

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-22-2011, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by JD250

Well at least you have a GP that is honest and will TRY to help you for now, does your insurance pay for this?

yes it does...but i dont have medicine insurance,which really sucks,test cyp is high!!!

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-22-2011, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Chichester

It took me SIX endocrinologists to get a precription for Growth Hormone , even with test results showing I needed it. Because it's controversial.

PS Don't talk bad about Mississippi!

damn 6 endos? sounds like my luck........you from miss to?

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-22-2011, 05:04 AM

Just to clarify guys,i wanted to apologize to everyone who posted on this thread about some things i said,i should have explained more in my original post,i just lost my temper and was pissed off because of what happened to me,i shouldnt have called my doctors home countless times and bothered him,i shouldve waited and called him in the office the next morning and dicussed it like a mature man,i just lost my temper and got really pissed off,and i sounded like i was hooked or addicted to test,which im not,he and i have went through alot of doses and finally found the dose that worked well for me and i was feeling so much better,but in turn was causing side effects from raising my estrogen levels so high that it was making me feel worse,i wish i would have pointed that out in my original post.I hope everyone accepts my apology,i just overreacted and got mad......like one poster said "Roid Rage " on trt lol......i do know that i have alot of good friends and brothers on here who are and is behind me an my thoughts and agreed to what i done,also there were a couple of new guys i was really rude to and it just tookme a while to realize that i had done wrong,and i thank all my brothers and friends on here that gave thier honest opinions and post,i appreciate yall very much,yall are the best........I hope everyone accepts my apology,and in the future i will ahndle myself more mature and professional.....thanks evryone......Bullseye Forever

**zaggahamma** · 05-22-2011, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever

Just to clarify guys,i wanted to apologize to everyone who posted on this thread about some things i said,i should have explained more in my original post,i just lost my temper and was pissed off because of what happened to me,i shouldnt have called my doctors home countless times and bothered him,i shouldve waited and called him in the office the next morning and dicussed it like a mature man,i just lost my temper and got really pissed off,and i sounded like i was hooked or addicted to test,which im not,he and i have went through alot of doses and finally found the dose that worked well for me and i was feeling so much better,but in turn was causing side effects from raising my estrogen levels so high that it was making me feel worse,i wish i would have pointed that out in my original post.I hope everyone accepts my apology,i just overreacted and got mad......like one poster said "Roid Rage" on trt lol......i do know that i have alot of good friends and brothers on here who are and is behind me an my thoughts and agreed to what i done,also there were a couple of new guys i was really rude to and it just tookme a while to realize that i had done wrong,and i thank all my brothers and friends on here that gave thier honest opinions and post,i appreciate yall very much,yall are the best........I hope everyone accepts my apology,and in the future i will ahndle myself more mature and professional.....thanks evryone......Bullseye Forever

even though my doctor read this and cut me off to set an example youre still a good bro

lol...jk about my doctor ...my pharmacist is being a math nerd as i previously posted...i'll find out monday if the transfer worked

**Chichester** · 05-22-2011, 08:54 AM

My pituitary problem arose while I was looking for low testosterone , I did my homework and tried a drug that was supposed to raise my GH levels but nothing happened. I took the arginine test and FAILED it. Even with that test in my hand, doctors pooh-poohed it. Because I was so big, not 3 feet tall. I ended up with the endo who treated Chief Supreme Court Rehnquist's thyroid cancer! He was fantastic. He made a personal call to the head of Endocrinology at Johns Hopkins, after another test I was in. There was LOTS of politics involved. The second test really made me sick. But now I get GH all year, monitored, for $280. I went through alot of painful rejection. Everybody hang in there.

PS my Mama is from Mississippi!

**Chichester** · 05-22-2011, 09:10 AM

My Insulin -Like Growth Facor 1 was 86ng/mL with the range of 94-252. My growth hormone serum was <0.1 with a range of 0-5ng/mL.....I remember the arginine test, they give you arginine every 15 minutes, and test your GH levels, and I failed it. I don't think you can fake this test.

**meathead320** · 05-22-2011, 09:48 AM

That is why I strongly prefer Urologists.

At the end of the day endo's want "normal" blood values, regardless if you are at the erectile dysfunction end of the range.

Urologist often prefer optimal results for your sex life, which tends to mean slightly higher doses, and more willing to script for AI's and so forth.

**RDW** · 05-22-2011, 09:37 PM

I been on trt since 25.... i been doing 120mg every week and they recommended me at 60mg week... always was at normal levels doing the 120

**steroid.com 1** · 05-24-2011, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever

Just to clarify guys,i wanted to apologize to everyone who posted on this thread about some things i said,i should have explained more in my original post,i just lost my temper and was pissed off because of what happened to me,i shouldnt have called my doctors home countless times and bothered him,i shouldve waited and called him in the office the next morning and dicussed it like a mature man,i just lost my temper and got really pissed off,and i sounded like i was hooked or addicted to test,which im not,he and i have went through alot of doses and finally found the dose that worked well for me and i was feeling so much better,but in turn was causing side effects from raising my estrogen levels so high that it was making me feel worse,i wish i would have pointed that out in my original post.I hope everyone accepts my apology,i just overreacted and got mad......like one poster said "Roid Rage" on trt lol......i do know that i have alot of good friends and brothers on here who are and is behind me an my thoughts and agreed to what i done,also there were a couple of new guys i was really rude to and it just tookme a while to realize that i had done wrong,and i thank all my brothers and friends on here that gave thier honest opinions and post,i appreciate yall very much,yall are the best........I hope everyone accepts my apology,and in the future i will ahndle myself more mature and professional.....thanks evryone......Bullseye Forever

I understood your frustration from the start of this thread. Cool on the apology; takes a straight-up guy to do that BF. I hate to see you wait till October to see an Endo...just too long for me. Can't you find someone else on your own? Do you need your primary to make the referral for insurance reasons?

**bass** · 05-24-2011, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever

Just to clarify guys,i wanted to apologize to everyone who posted on this thread about some things i said,i should have explained more in my original post,i just lost my temper and was pissed off because of what happened to me,i shouldnt have called my doctors home countless times and bothered him,i shouldve waited and called him in the office the next morning and dicussed it like a mature man,i just lost my temper and got really pissed off,and i sounded like i was hooked or addicted to test,which im not,he and i have went through alot of doses and finally found the dose that worked well for me and i was feeling so much better,but in turn was causing side effects from raising my estrogen levels so high that it was making me feel worse,i wish i would have pointed that out in my original post.I hope everyone accepts my apology,i just overreacted and got mad......like one poster said "Roid Rage" on trt lol......i do know that i have alot of good friends and brothers on here who are and is behind me an my thoughts and agreed to what i done,also there were a couple of new guys i was really rude to and it just tookme a while to realize that i had done wrong,and i thank all my brothers and friends on here that gave thier honest opinions and post,i appreciate yall very much,yall are the best........I hope everyone accepts my apology,and in the future i will ahndle myself more mature and professional.....thanks evryone......Bullseye Forever

LOL, Bullseye! don't worry bro, we all know and understand your frustration. i really hope you can see the endo much sooner and get your script dialed in correctly!

**Bullseye Forever** · 05-24-2011, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by gdevine

I understood your frustration from the start of this thread. Cool on the apology; takes a straight-up guy to do that BF. I hate to see you wait till October to see an Endo...just too long for me. Can't you find someone else on your own? Do you need your primary to make the referral for insurance reasons?

Originally Posted by bass

LOL, Bullseye! don't worry bro, we all know and understand your frustration. i really hope you can see the endo much sooner and get your script dialed in correctly!

well i did find another one and my appt is june 17th,so im going to him first and see what he says and then go to the one in oct as well,they told me if they had a cancelation,they would call me,so im glad i got one soon,and my GP is gonna keep writing my sricps until i see one,so im cool with that,thats guys for standing behind me and all your support,yall are the best