New member Mario's trt

[Mario L]

wow 300! 1mg Adex won't do much for that dose! generally for every 100 mgs test you need 1 mg Adex.

BTW, 300 was my blast dose!

I think 100 a week is a good start. The clinic said I could use up to 300 a week.

[Mario L]

Ok here's my plan.
Wednesday night 50mg cyp
Friday night 250 hcg
Sunday a.m. 50mg cyp
Tuesday night 250 hcg

After 6 weeks new BW. Then if needed
Thursday A.M. .5 adex
Sunday night .5 adex

Look good?

[steroid.com 1]

Ok here's my plan.
Wednesday night 50mg cyp
Friday night 250 hcg
Sunday a.m. 50mg cyp
Tuesday night 250 hcg

After 6 weeks new BW. Then if needed
Thursday A.M. .5 adex
Sunday night .5 adex

Look good?

PERFECT!

You will need the adex after 6 weeks. If you start getting itchy nipples, water retention...things like that...then you'll know E2 is rising.

[bass]

I think 100 a week is a good start. The clinic said I could use up to 300 a week.

of course the clinic will tell you that, the faster you finish it the sooner you'll re-order!

[steroid.com 1]

300 mg/week Test is a lot. Be careful with the Arimidex as many don't need it while on TRT. It will do more harm then good if you take it while not needing it.

Really???

[bass]

according to my clinic they said its more like 1 out of 100 patients who don't need AI, but even that is based on low dose of testosterone , like 100 mgs or less per week. i just don't see how anyone can avoid test to E2 conversion especially doses over 100 mgs!

[Mario L]

Yeah if I feel the e2 sides I will start the adex before my BW.

[Mario L]

Well first shot went well last night. Watched a couple YouTube vids and read a few instructions online. One question though, I drew with the needle on the syringe a 25g. Filled to 2.5 lines on a 3 ml syringe which is 50 mgs. When I unscrewed the needle to put on the 20g to inject with I drip came over and is wasted. Should I draw it back further after I draw and then put the 20g on and remove the air. Btw that 20g needle looks like a monster but slides in like nothing.

[steroid.com 1]

Well first shot went well last night. Watched a couple YouTube vids and read a few instructions online. One question though, I drew with the needle on the syringe a 25g. Filled to 2.5 lines on a 3 ml syringe which is 50 mgs. When I unscrewed the needle to put on the 20g to inject with I drip came over and is wasted. Should I draw it back further after I draw and then put the 20g on and remove the air. Btw that 20g needle looks like a monster but slides in like nothing.

Yes, pull back on the plunger to clear out the needle barrel before you put the injection needle on.

When I am done, I pull back again and take the 27g needle off and use an insulin pin to draw up what's leftover in the syringe. When the insulin pin gets about 250 iu's I SQ between test injection days to get just that little extra...don't like wasting this precious stuff if ya know what I mean

[Mario L]

Sounds good. Didn't know you can use test SQ.

[steroid.com 1]

Sounds good. Didn't know you can use test SQ.

Sure can!

[JD250]

GD, I have been leaving a little air in the syringe after I put on my injection needle, turn it needle down and flick the crap out of it till the air comes out of the needle barrel, give a little push till I see a drop, if pinning glutes aim downward just a bit and inject, when the plunger bottoms out that little bit of air pushes the test out of the needle barrel, problem solved.

[Vettester]

I think 100 a week is a good start. The clinic said I could use up to 300 a week.

Some clinics like the more is better program, simply cuz it means mo $$ in their pocket. Their Anastrozole price on 1mg caps has to be through the ceiling. Next time, look at our sponsor, ARR, and try their Liquidex. More isn't better, balance is the objective.

[BigBadWolf]

Some clinics like the more is better program, simply cuz it means mo $$ in their pocket. Their Anastrozole price on 1mg caps has to be through the ceiling. Next time, look at our sponsor, ARR, and try their Liquidex. More isn't better, balance is the objective.

Hey vetteman i don't think ar-r carry that kinda stuff anymore

[Vettester]

Hey vetteman i don't think ar-r carry that kinda stuff anymore

Yeah, I don't get around here like I used to. Just noticed they're not around. Thanks.

[steroid.com 1]

GD, I have been leaving a little air in the syringe after I put on my injection needle, turn it needle down and flick the crap out of it till the air comes out of the needle barrel, give a little push till I see a drop, if pinning glutes aim downward just a bit and inject, when the plunger bottoms out that little bit of air pushes the test out of the needle barrel, problem solved.

How interesting...good thinking man!

[zaggahamma]

am i seriously the only one that noticed he drew with 25guage and pinned with 20guage...did i read this wrong? or is there a new rugged crowd

[bass]

Well first shot went well last night. Watched a couple YouTube vids and read a few instructions online. One question though, I drew with the needle on the syringe a 25g. Filled to 2.5 lines on a 3 ml syringe which is 50 mgs. When I unscrewed the needle to put on the 20g to inject with I drip came over and is wasted. Should I draw it back further after I draw and then put the 20g on and remove the air. Btw that 20g needle looks like a monster but slides in like nothing.

ignore my post if its a typo. you should draw with the 20g. and inject with 25g.!

[Mario L]

I just looked at my stuff the syringes come with a 23g on it already. So I figured use that to draw. And all the 20g's came separate. Is it ok to inject with the 20. I figured it didn't matter. The oil flows nice through it.

[bass]

LOL, remove the 23 g. then install the 20 g. to draw, then draw back more as GD suggested (thats what i do as well to get the test out of the needle), remove the 20 g., re-install the 23 g., get the air out then inject! ouch 20g.!!!!!

[Mario L]

LOL, ouch 20g.!!!!!

haha bass! Ok I'll use the 23. Leg is a little sore.

[bass]

hey if you can take 20 g. you can take anything! yes you will get sore few more times then it'll stop! make sure you alternate sides.

[Mario L]

I'm going to use legs and ill have my wife inject me in the rear.

[Vettester]

am i seriously the only one that noticed he drew with 25guage and pinned with 20guage...did i read this wrong? or is there a new rugged crowd

LOL, I remember that "rugged" thread last year.

I still use 25g to pin. Dumped the 23g's about 1-1/2 ago and never looked back.

[BigBadWolf]

LOL, I remember that "rugged" thread last year.

I still use 25g to pin. Dumped the 23g's about 1-1/2 ago and never looked back.

How long does it take to shoot with a 25? Does it flow alright?

[steroid.com 1]

27g to pin here...in like a hair

[bass]

my clinic does not recommend going smaller than 23 g. they said something about it creates a bubble if you inject with smaller g.! it makes no sense!

[zaggahamma]

your welcome

[Mario L]

your welcome

Thanks jpkman for noticing I was doing it backwards.

[Vettester]

How long does it take to shoot with a 25? Does it flow alright?

I used to pin at one time with 23g. Obviously, it will take a little longer. For me, I'd guess 10 seconds more for 1ML +/-.

my clinic does not recommend going smaller than 23 g. they said something about it creates a bubble if you inject with smaller g.! it makes no sense!

You are correct, their statement makes no sense. Never had a bubble issue, or any other issue.

[JohnnyVegas]

Really???

I have been taking 200mg/week for 11 months and my E2 is still low. I once thought my acne might be a symptom of high Estrogen so I tried 12.5mg EOD of Liquidex. After a week my body hurt, especially my joints. I was miserable so I quit the L-dex and went back to feeling normal. When I did blood work after that my doc said "your E2 always stays really low, that is a great thing, we will never need to put you on an AI." I felt like an idiot and didn't tell her that I already figured that out with my stupid self-diagnosis.

[steroid.com 1]

I have been taking 200mg/week for 11 months and my E2 is still low. I once thought my acne might be a symptom of high Estrogen so I tried 12.5mg EOD of Liquidex. After a week my body hurt, especially my joints. I was miserable so I quit the L-dex and went back to feeling normal. When I did blood work after that my doc said "your E2 always stays really low, that is a great thing, we will never need to put you on an AI." I felt like an idiot and didn't tell her that I already figured that out with my stupid self-diagnosis.

You've been blessed with a great liver John!

Most of us are not so lucky unfortunately.

[Mario L]

So I talked with my nurse from my pcp office about my tsh level She said that they wouldn't treat it, it was in normal range i told her anything over 3 needed to ba addressed. She said see an endo if I wanted. So I have an appt. With an endo. What should I say about my tsh levels?

[steroid.com 1]

So I talked with my nurse from my pcp office about my tsh level She said that they wouldn't treat it, it was in normal range i told her anything over 3 needed to ba addressed. She said see an endo if I wanted. So I have an appt. With an endo. What should I say about my tsh levels?

Most endo's know that the TSH range is not an indication of normal Thyroid function. Until Recently, the standard that was the normal range for TSH at most laboratories has fallen somewhere in the reference range of 0.5 to 5.0 range, with hyperthyroidism being below .5, and hypothyroidism above 5.0.

There are newer guidelines, recommending that the range for acceptable thyroid function, and thyroid treatment, shift to a TSH reference range of 0.3 to 3.0, which is a far narrower range as I stated earlier.

If you want more fire power take a copy of this along when you see your Doc: http://tinyurl.com/5sjx6kh

[Mario L]

Thanks I set up an appt with a doc from that site. So they should be up to speed with those ranges.

[steroid.com 1]

Thanks I set up an appt with a doc from that site. So they should be up to speed with those ranges.

Good for you man! Manage the process.

[Mario L]

I've been injecting test on Sunday am and Wednesday pm 3.5 days apart. When would be the best time for my 6 week bloodwork. Saturday night or Wednesday am?

[bass]

either one is fine as long as its at least one day before! for me I'll do Wednesday morning because Saturdays are busy at the lab!

[bigboy67]

I've been injecting test on Sunday am and Wednesday pm 3.5 days apart. When would be the best time for my 6 week bloodwork. Saturday night or Wednesday am?

Test levels are higher in the AM, so I would do the Saturday night test to get a great idea of the bottom line level of your Test

[bass]

Test levels are higher in the AM, so I would do the Saturday night test to get a great idea of the bottom line level of your Test

not if you are on TRT! i could be wrong, but your natural test production is shutdown anyway, i don't think it will matter what time of the day you go to the lab! however to play it safe i will go in the afternoon in stead of morning! thats for bringing it up!