Trt appoinment in the uk

[milky01623]

Hi guys how's things?
Ok I have arranged an appt with my doc this am.i have read the stickies etc and find them very informative my only question is this
Here in th uk things are done a little different as in you have to be referred before you can see a specialist but I am taking the first step for over 5 years I have been feeling emotional (this is getting worse) my libido is rock bottom and I find it hard to be hard ( sorry for the pun but I can't think how else to put it lol) I am 41 years old is there anything I could do until I get some answers from the doc????????
And if anyone in England is currently receiving the trt please contact me
Many thanks Milky

[milky01623]

Been to the docs and guess what !!!!!!
She said stop the protein shakes and it will all go back to normal........
Wtf.......

[bass]

not sure if should laugh or cry! what a buffoon of doctor she is. sorry you live in UK with your condition, its going to be tough to get a proper treatment. few of members here get TRT in UK, i am sure they'll chime in shortly. keep us posted.

[milky01623]

not sure if should laugh or cry! what a buffoon of doctor she is. sorry you live in UK with your condition, its going to be tough to get a proper treatment. few of members here get TRT in UK, i am sure they'll chime in shortly. keep us posted.

Thanks for the reply bass I've rang the surgery back & complained so they've agreed to do fasted bloods but I think this was more to keep me quiet.......please chime in if you're in the uk and either receiving or self administering your own treatments so that I can at least find a doctor or some sort of treatment
Thanks in advance milky

[nicke1]

Thanks for the reply bass I've rang the surgery back & complained so they've agreed to do fasted bloods but I think this was more to keep me quiet.......please chime in if you're in the uk and either receiving or self administering your own treatments so that I can at least find a doctor or some sort of treatment
Thanks in advance milky

Good luck.

I'm in the UK and started TRT through the private route. There are mens health clinics around. It's not cheap though, typically £150-£300 per consultation and costs on top for the blood work and treatment (£100 for each Nebido injection).

Nick

[milky01623]

Good luck.

I'm in the UK and started TRT through the private route. There are mens health clinics around. It's not cheap though, typically £150-£300 per consultation and costs on top for the blood work and treatment (£100 for each Nebido injection).

Nick

Cheers nick just what I needed to hear lol
Where did you find the clinic?

[pugster]

For private there is cheaper out there, google leger
clinic Doncaster.

[devildog1967]

iv just been allowed trt after many years of fighting , im in the uk and it is very hard too get. good luck bro

[milky01623]

Thanks for all the info I've got a feeling it's not going to b easy to get it!!!!!
Pls keep all the info coming and I'll keep you all posted

[devildog1967]

i self medicated for 2y too prove a point to them. i was 100% honest with my doctors about it . if your bloods are in guidelines you are stuffed .

[milky01623]

i self medicated for 2y too prove a point to them. i was 100% honest with my doctors about it . if your bloods are in guidelines you are stuffed .

Dude I get my bloods done on 20:8 so once I get the results I'm kinda thinking that's when the s**t will hit the fan but if I don't get any joy then I'll either look at self meds or going to the leger in Doncaster..........
I've read their website and it seems they understand it tbh I'm toying with the idea of going there anyway just for a diagnosis

[choker28]

i went to my doctors told them i was depressed, teary and had no libido They did blood test and put me on Nebido simple as that

[marcus300]

I'm in the UK and been on trt for a few years now. I'm taking nebido which I find amazing and feel like 21 again. You need to explain to your doctor how you feel and tell her its affecting your life in a negative way, tell her you have stopped the shakes but what on earth that's got to do with anything I don't know lol.

You can get treatment on prescription without any problems but you must force the issue and make sure you exaggerate the symptoms .

[pugster]

tbh if you doc is that bad she thinks protein shakes have anything to do with testosterone lvls, i'd either ask to see another doc at your practice or look elsewhere (personally i'd also ask the practice manager where that GP get her info from),i also dont understand why they have asked for a fasted test if you are having testosterone lvls checked, fasted is usually for blood sugar problems (ive had multiple testosterone tests without having to fast).
at the end of the day it will all come down to your bloods , altho i dont use them personally ive spoken to Dr Savage at the leger clinic and he's fine to talk to and is also willing to work with most GP's (i.e he wil dx and monitor you , your own GP will prescribe -this keeps the costs down, providing of course that your own GP will work with him)

[milky01623]

I'm in the UK and been on trt for a few years now. I'm taking nebido which I find amazing and feel like 21 again. You need to explain to your doctor how you feel and tell her its affecting your life in a negative way, tell her you have stopped the shakes but what on earth that's got to do with anything I don't know lol.

You can get treatment on prescription without any problems but you must force the issue and make sure you exaggerate the symptoms .

I'm gonna take this issue forward but tbh I don't think I'll need to do much exaggerating I'm just watching jess Ennis win gold in the Olympics and I'm in floods of tears r gerts just said "wtf is wrong" lol

[milky01623]

Thanx to all of you for your encouragement and advice and sharing your experiences pls don't stop them and as I start on this what I think is going to be a long road I'll share mine with you all
Cheers milky

[chrishansen83]

Bump, from London!

It is really baffling how stupid the docs are in general.

We have to be prepared to ask for help from somewhere else, or take matters to our hands.

Good luck!

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good work milky im glad to see u started a thread in here dude! these guys know their stuff!

[milky01623]

Hi guys
Well after sitting and fretting all weekend I decided to look for another path to use and once again it's one of the bro's on here who pointed me in this direction ......
I googled "the leger clinic" and rang them yesterday I am now awaiting a call from their specialist doctor for a chat this morning...
I'll keep you posted

[milky01623]

GOOD NEWS
I've got an appt sat morn with a specialist in Doncaster
Finally someone who understands

[milky01623]

Can anyone tell me exactly what nebido is I know it's test but I can't find what sort as in cyp enanthe prop etc

[pugster]

nebido is Testosterone undecanoate , most trt docs will start you on gel (tostran) -doug savage included

[milky01623]

nebido is Testosterone undecanoate , most trt docs will start you on gel (tostran) -doug savage included

Thanks for the info on the clinic mate can I ask r u using the gel and if so what sort of results are/did u get cheers

[pugster]

i used the gel for around 3 months, unfortunately i am prone to eczema and the alcohol in the gel aggravated it so i was switched over to nebido , with the gel you see improvements quite fast (i felt better within a week of using it) , its fast absorption rate is alot easier to control and endo/uro's etc usually start you on gels to see how you react to the testosterone (i.e the gel is in-out your system within about 24hrs (hence the daily dosing) , if they gave you a nebido shot right away and you had some crazy reaction you would be buggered ) , my nebido shots are still being fine tuned (im at an 8 week interval atm) , i seem to use it up quite fast.
....good luck on your TRT journey.

[chrishansen83]

Nebido is a slow-acting testosterone ester (undecanoate, this is the longest acting one), I think the standard dosage is 1000mg / shot and you get it somewhere between 8-12 weeks intervals.

It is more convenient than doing 2x a week cyp for sure

It is only available in Europe, the FDA didn't approve it for the USA.

There is a separate thread (or maybe three) on this forum solely to Nebido, there are quite a few people using it, with mixed results AFAIK.

Check out the topics, good luck!

[milky01623]

Fingers crossed
I was just wondering if I can still cycle whilst on trt as I was planning one for jan 2013

[lca5000]

What part of the U.K you in?

Im in Manchester and see a women at first explained how I felt from there had blood work done and she said every thing was fine I went back to my GP and asked to be referred to another doc this time was at a different hospital and see and man first appointment had bloods checks second appointment I was given Trt gel few appointment later everything was fine long story short

from that I concluded that it was better to see a male rather then a female because they can put them selfs in your shoes and understand and know what your going through where as a female cant

[milky01623]

What part of the U.K you in?

Im in Manchester and see a women at first explained how I felt from there had blood work done and she said every thing was fine I went back to my GP and asked to be referred to another doc this time was at a different hospital and see and man first appointment had bloods checks second appointment I was given Trt gel few appointment later everything was fine long story short

from that I concluded that it was better to see a male rather then a female because they can put them selfs in your shoes and understand and know what your going through where as a female cant

Hiya buddy I'm in Nottinghamshire and yeah that is what's happens to me but I've now taken things into my own hands or gone private and have arranged an appointment with a specialist whom I'm seeing on Saturday so fingers crossed

[lca5000]

good luck bro

[milky01623]

Hey guys I'm getting a little apprehensive about my appointment tomorrow can anyone give me a little idea of what to expect and wether or not I'll get any meds
Thanx

[marcus300]

You need to explain your symptoms and tell them its having a huge effect on your life. Exaggerate if you need to but tell them its getting worse each year. Tell then your desperate to feel normal again, don't hold back. They'll do bloods and give you the appropriate meds.

[milky01623]

You need to explain your symptoms and tell them its having a huge effect on your life. Exaggerate if you need to but tell them its getting worse each year. Tell then your desperate to feel normal again, don't hold back. They'll do bloods and give you the appropriate meds.

Thanks Marcus so they'll do bw and then meds ? Will he not give me say gel till the results are back?

Btw great avi is it a scene from indiana jones

[marcus300]

I would presume he would medicate after the results are back unless he already has your other results from your doctor then he may prescribe some therapy. I hope he doesn't give you gel and goes with injections. Just play on your symptoms and make sure you tell them its causing issues with your everyday life.

[milky01623]

Ok guys I'm at the docs the truth will b known shortly fingers crossed

[devildog1967]

good luck bro

[milky01623]

Just got back from clinic
It's all good the doc says he would b very surprised if I haven't got low test but on the down side he's talking about gel to begin with and seeing how that goes...... Bloods av been took and I get results on Friday

[milky01623]

I would presume he would medicate after the results are back unless he already has your other results from your doctor then he may prescribe some therapy. I hope he doesn't give you gel and goes with injections. Just play on your symptoms and make sure you tell them its causing issues with your everyday life.

Hi Marcus thanks for all your input but as you can see from my earlier post my doc is on about starting with gel!!!!!!
Can I get him to go with say nebido to start

[pugster]

personally i would not try to sway him in one direction or the other , gel works fine for some ppl and it may work well for you , trying to sway the doc right off the bat will start him thinking as to your motives ,UK docs are very wary of prescribing to bodybuilders as they dont want to be labelled as an easy supply route to anyone who is abusing steriods (you cant blame them for protecting there own interests).
one thing is for sure, if the docs catch you 'adding' stuff to your medication (thru the blood tests you will need to take to monitor test lvls /haemocrit etc) you will more than likely be dropped like a hot rock , tho if you are that way inclined im sure theres shorter acting esters etc that can be used between blood tests and someone here should be able to advise you.
you are just starting out on the TRT journey , results are often not miracles from day 1 and are usually progressive (one day you may find you just feel better and have only just noticed ) , i know its hard after waiting so long for help but try to be patient
good luck

[marcus300]

Hi Marcus thanks for all your input but as you can see from my earlier post my doc is on about starting with gel!!!!!!
Can I get him to go with say nebido to start

I doubt you will be able to change his mind on the treatment he wants to put you on. I started on gel but like many report it is not good and my doctor prescribed test e injections. So work with him and see how you feel on the gel, if you have problems I'm sure he will get you on injections and hopefully nebido.

Best of luck and let me know how you get on with the gel.

[devildog1967]

my doc has put me on test e with the option of neb in 4 months time, so i say work with your doc and go with what they say.