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04-15-2013, 11:47 PM #41
Alright. So I'm going to have to do a detailed write up at some point on all these amino-acids.
As for gdevines protocol, it's ridiculous! (this means good!). Now, Citrulline is pretty much arginine by conversion, but is a better way to get arginine. So I'm considering dropping arginine going forward (After I finish the batch I made!).
Tonight i took the following:
1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
5 mg of Tadalafil
3000 mg of L-Carnitine
2000 mg of L-Arginine
1000 mg of L-Citrulline
(Ran out of goat weed last week)
I did back and bi's today. The pump was far more extreme than my usual pump. After hanging-concentration curls, I could barely lift my arms. Most of my vascularity has always been pretty average. Tonight, the veins on the backside of my forearms wrapped around to the front. Very nice.
I'm going to attribute this extra pump to Tyrosine. The latest batch that I made myself has Lysine, Cystiene and Arginine in it, and I haven't experienced this kind of pump from it.
So... 2 thumbs up on gdevines pre-workout.~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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04-15-2013, 11:55 PM #42Originally Posted by austinite
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04-16-2013, 12:07 AM #44Originally Posted by gdevine
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04-16-2013, 12:22 AM #47Originally Posted by gdevine
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I love Icariin. Horny Goat Weed here in the states usually has only 10 mg per pill of the active ingredient...that's why I take 6 times the recommend amount once before work outs and every night before bed.
You can find it in 60 mg which is the most I think you can buy; but you need to buy it online.
I've used it in the past, but not combined with my amino stack, and it worked okay.
You can find it here if you are interested: Icariin 60™ • BEST HORNY GOAT WEED • 60% Icariin Extract
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04-16-2013, 12:27 AM #50
? Why use caber as AI of choice.
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I use caber to lower Prolactin to get me into the lower third of the reference range.
Increases my libido (some days are crazy) increase orgasm intensity like nothing I've ever felt before and increases refractory periods...meaning I can orgasm faster the second time.
Great stuff in my book...but expensive...get your Doc to prescribe so insurance can pay for it.Last edited by steroid.com 1; 04-16-2013 at 12:40 AM.
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04-16-2013, 12:33 AM #53
He's not. Check this Post.
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04-16-2013, 07:34 AM #54
Also another one. While on trt we tend to take a lot of supplements I'm always scared of drug interactions with one and another, is there and issue taking my AI and then my 5mg of cialis.. Well what I'm trying to say is there any harm to me or canceling out of the drugs.. Those 2 above are examples
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04-16-2013, 08:08 AM #55
No issues. I introduced cialis a couple years ago, never stopped since. Been on AI for many years. There are some that go well with each other, as gdevine outline with arginine and citrulline. But really there is no "Harm" with NO's, vitamins and minerals. The only harm would be less effect or timing problems. ie: taking magnesium in the morning... not a good idea as it's also a muscle relaxer. Your body produces most of these supps, you'd just be taking more.
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04-16-2013, 09:09 AM #56Originally Posted by austinite
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Been placed on trt within the last year so I have been reading up on it a bit, gdevine would you be willing to post or pm me your full supplement list escpecially the ones needed for trt ?
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04-16-2013, 12:53 PM #59
I wonder, if our trusted board sponsor would be willing to include some of the meds included in the GD Protocol? Specifically, Cabergoline as it would be a benefit to some of us on TRT as well as SSRI's.
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04-16-2013, 01:46 PM #60
Great discussion GD! I noticed you are taking your Test IM. Weren't you doing sq at some point? wondering if that's true why you switch? Also where are you injecting and what gauge are you using?
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Yes, he did prescribe it. I told him I wanted to slightly lower my Proclatin levels and get the benefits of increased libido, stronger orgasms and short refractory periods...he was all over it!!!
He tried it for the same reason and got moderate results...I get pretty good results from it.
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04-16-2013, 02:36 PM #64Originally Posted by gdevine
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It means pulling the skin tight with one hand and injecting with the other while keep tension on the skin. When you are done injecting pull the needle out and let go of the skin. What this does is prevent any testosterone to leak out of the hole or blood to leak out as well. The hole in the skin is now away from the actual injection site.
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I was under the impression that this was only a portion of what you take, if this is it nevermind then, you seem to know your stuff so I was trying to get your supp regimen and have you do all the leg work for me haha. I have the basics- protein,multi,krill oil,zinc and magnesium,vit d,etc. Just started pregnelone today, noticed a modest increase in sense of well-being. How did you go about getting seligiline? I just became aware that I can not recieve pm's until I get like 50 post, is their anyways you can tell me where you get your cialis at, a month supply from the pharmacy is like $ 160 dollars for 5 mgs. per day.
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04-16-2013, 03:47 PM #67
GD how does your wife keep up with your libido?
I'm 36 and between being on TRT and the cialis my 34 y/o fiancée can't even come close to keeping up with me. I feel like I'm walking on egg shells when I mention sex to her lol.
Hell, I thought women reached their primed and ready for sex in their 30's but her Max for sex is maybe if I'm lucky just 2 times a week.
Thank goodness for all the free porn on the Internet.
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I have a vitamin protocol if that's what you mean?
I will list it tonight when I get home from the gym.
I get Selegiline from my Doc via a scrip.
It can be had from overseas pharmacy's as well.
You need more posts before we can PM.
Get active man and get that count up if you want my secret placeLast edited by steroid.com 1; 04-16-2013 at 03:53 PM.
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04-16-2013, 04:54 PM #71Originally Posted by kelkel
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04-16-2013, 06:45 PM #72Originally Posted by gdevine
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Yep, it's exactly the same.
Low dose Tadalafil has many health benefits for women GGR.
By suppressing the PDE5i enzyme, what a PDE5 inhibitor compound does, increases NO serum levels in our bodies; male of female.
Getting blood into places that are harder to get to as we age is a wonderful thing and very healthy all the way around...especially in the brain!
As for the benefits in the gym, any time we can increase NO (look at all the NO performance products on the shelf today!) we get better performance in the gym. The ability to get oxygen, nutrients and all the amino acids and other supplements into the blood stream and into the muscle tissues faster and with greater saturation the better...and that's just some of the benefits of a PDE5i.
Sexually, women have responded very positively to the low dose of Tadalafil. More sensitivity and better stronger clitoral response, among other things, have been reported.
For a women, I wouldn't change a thing to be honest.
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04-16-2013, 07:15 PM #75Originally Posted by gdevine
Silly but i havent heard of most of this stuff and i have a hard time taking a vitamin daily but recently noticing undesirable changes. Waiting on BW results.
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The one thing I like about these three classes of amino acids, besides their ability to increase NO, is their ability to reduce body fat, increase cellular energy, transport fatty acids, aid in muscle and tissue repair and are all involved with urea metabolism and excretion (accelerates recovery and why I take before bed as well) as well as DNA synthesis.
Best of class these three IMO...but there are others.
I like the family of BCAA's like everyone else.
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the stuff you post is awesome and so helpful I cant wait to get stuff dialed in, it takes time but everyones help on here has been great I appreciate everyones responses even if my posts aren't great.
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Enough of that my man; everyone's posts are important and great...don't put yourself down like that.
Read, study and learn and become an active member of this great community of ours.
I truly believe we have the best male international Hormone Replacement Therapy forum on the Internet now and it's because of members just like you caira!!!
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04-17-2013, 11:52 AM #80
GD also noticed you are not taking any AI. How are you getting away with this... Is something with your sups helping with this? What is your E2 running if you don't mind me asking?
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