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    Alright. So I'm going to have to do a detailed write up at some point on all these amino-acids.

    As for gdevines protocol, it's ridiculous! (this means good!). Now, Citrulline is pretty much arginine by conversion, but is a better way to get arginine. So I'm considering dropping arginine going forward (After I finish the batch I made!).

    Tonight i took the following:

    1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    3000 mg of L-Carnitine
    2000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    (Ran out of goat weed last week)

    I did back and bi's today. The pump was far more extreme than my usual pump. After hanging-concentration curls, I could barely lift my arms. Most of my vascularity has always been pretty average. Tonight, the veins on the backside of my forearms wrapped around to the front. Very nice.

    I'm going to attribute this extra pump to Tyrosine. The latest batch that I made myself has Lysine, Cystiene and Arginine in it, and I haven't experienced this kind of pump from it.

    So... 2 thumbs up on gdevines pre-workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Alright. So I'm going to have to do a detailed write up at some point on all these amino-acids.

    As for gdevines protocol, it's ridiculous! (this means good!). Now, Citrulline is pretty much arginine by conversion, but is a better way to get arginine. So I'm considering dropping arginine going forward (After I finish the batch I made!).

    Tonight i took the following:

    1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    3000 mg of L-Carnitine
    2000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    (Ran out of goat weed last week)

    I did back and bi's today. The pump was far more extreme than my usual pump. After hanging-concentration curls, I could barely lift my arms. Most of my vascularity has always been pretty average. Tonight, the veins on the backside of my forearms wrapped around to the front. Very nice.

    I'm going to attribute this extra pump to Tyrosine. The latest batch that I made myself has Lysine, Cystiene and Arginine in it, and I haven't experienced this kind of pump from it.

    So... 2 thumbs up on gdevines pre-workout.
    I'm gonna have to try this. I do love me some vascularity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Alright. So I'm going to have to do a detailed write up at some point on all these amino-acids.

    As for gdevines protocol, it's ridiculous! (this means good!). Now, Citrulline is pretty much arginine by conversion, but is a better way to get arginine. So I'm considering dropping arginine going forward (After I finish the batch I made!).
    No, synergistically they work best together as opposed to just one compound, that's why you will find them both in one pill. Keep them both austinite, you want the combined effect. Make sure to take them the same way I do; especially at night and most importantly after a work out day. We heal as night (get bigger) and we need these aminos.

    Tonight i took the following:

    1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
    Excellent for muscle repair BTW and best taken at night before bed.
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    3000 mg of L-Carnitine
    2000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline
    Oh yea, that's what I'm talking about

    (Ran out of goat weed last week)
    Get it, it's cheap and the Iicariin in it is worth it; just take as much of it as you want. No neg sides and most only have 10 mg of Iicariin in it so load up...it's safe.

    I did back and bi's today. The pump was far more extreme than my usual pump. After hanging-concentration curls, I could barely lift my arms. Most of my vascularity has always been pretty average. Tonight, the veins on the backside of my forearms wrapped around to the front. Very nice.
    Told yea. Now give it some time and wait till you build up serum levels to optimal levels if you follow my dosing protocol...it gets worse...or I mean better I was doing heavy cable cross overs tonight in the mirror and veins were popping out in places you only see in Muscle Mags...it was awesome.

    I'm going to attribute this extra pump to Tyrosine. The latest batch that I made myself has Lysine, Cystiene and Arginine in it, and I haven't experienced this kind of pump from it.

    So... 2 thumbs up on gdevines pre-workout.
    Luv ya bro, glade to help members and visitors as best I can!!!!

    To really maximize it follow my schedule, it's really important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine

    To really maximize it follow my schedule, it's really important.
    Including the Pregneneolone and dhea or just what u take in the afternoon and before bed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Luv ya bro, glade to help members and visitors as best I can!!!!

    To really maximize it follow my schedule, it's really important.
    Excellent pointers GD. I will follow this exactly once the rest of my supps come in (that includes goat weed)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Including the Pregneneolone and dhea or just what u take in the afternoon and before bed?

    -Chomp Chomp Chomp-Clink Clink Clink-
    It's up to you for what you want to do. I only posted "my" protocol as it works for me.

    If you don't want to take Preg or DHEA than leave it out. I take those for different reasons than the amino stack for vasiodialation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine

    It's up to you for what you want to do. I only posted "my" protocol as it works for me.

    If you don't want to take Preg or DHEA than leave it out. I take those for different reasons than the amino stack for vasiodialation.
    I thought so, I just didn't know if it played into the vasodilation factor at all, i didnt think it did, but I thought I'd ask anyway

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    I love Icariin. Horny Goat Weed here in the states usually has only 10 mg per pill of the active ingredient...that's why I take 6 times the recommend amount once before work outs and every night before bed.

    You can find it in 60 mg which is the most I think you can buy; but you need to buy it online.

    I've used it in the past, but not combined with my amino stack, and it worked okay.

    You can find it here if you are interested: Icariin 60™ • BEST HORNY GOAT WEED • 60% Icariin Extract

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    I love Icariin. Horny Goat Weed here in the states usually has only 10 mg per pill of the active ingredient...that's why I take 6 times the recommend amount once before work outs and every night before bed.

    You can find it in 60 mg which is the most I think you can buy; but you need to buy it online.

    I've used it in the past, but not combined with my amino stack, and it worked okay.

    You can find it here if you are interested: Icariin 60™ • BEST HORNY GOAT WEED • 60% Icariin Extract
    I ordered the powder. I'm going to cap it myself in a size 00 cap and get more per cap. This will be fun.
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    ? Why use caber as AI of choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I ordered the powder. I'm going to cap it myself in a size 00 cap and get more per cap. This will be fun.
    Icariin is a clinically proven PDE5 inhibitor like Tadalafil; only thing is we need to take a shit load more of it to do what a small 5 mg pill of Tadalafil will do.

    Nevertheless, it's cheap and when added into the stack...it works fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    ? Why use caber as AI of choice.
    I use caber to lower Prolactin to get me into the lower third of the reference range.

    Increases my libido (some days are crazy) increase orgasm intensity like nothing I've ever felt before and increases refractory periods...meaning I can orgasm faster the second time.

    Great stuff in my book...but expensive...get your Doc to prescribe so insurance can pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    ? Why use caber as AI of choice.
    He's not. Check this Post.
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    Also another one. While on trt we tend to take a lot of supplements I'm always scared of drug interactions with one and another, is there and issue taking my AI and then my 5mg of cialis.. Well what I'm trying to say is there any harm to me or canceling out of the drugs.. Those 2 above are examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    Also another one. While on trt we tend to take a lot of supplements I'm always scared of drug interactions with one and another, is there and issue taking my AI and then my 5mg of cialis.. Well what I'm trying to say is there any harm to me or canceling out of the drugs.. Those 2 above are examples
    No issues. I introduced cialis a couple years ago, never stopped since. Been on AI for many years. There are some that go well with each other, as gdevine outline with arginine and citrulline. But really there is no "Harm" with NO's, vitamins and minerals. The only harm would be less effect or timing problems. ie: taking magnesium in the morning... not a good idea as it's also a muscle relaxer. Your body produces most of these supps, you'd just be taking more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    No issues. I introduced cialis a couple years ago, never stopped since. Been on AI for many years. There are some that go well with each other, as gdevine outline with arginine and citrulline. But really there is no "Harm" with NO's, vitamins and minerals. The only harm would be less effect or timing problems. ie: taking magnesium in the morning... not a good idea as it's also a muscle relaxer. Your body produces most of these supps, you'd just be taking more.
    Cool thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    I use caber to lower Prolactin to get me into the lower third of the reference range.

    Increases my libido (some days are crazy) increase orgasm intensity like nothing I've ever felt before and increases refractory periods...meaning I can orgasm faster the second time.

    Great stuff in my book...but expensive...get your Doc to prescribe so insurance can pay for it.
    Did your A4M Doc prescribe it for you? What can I tell my Doc to get him to prescribe it for me? Maybe, I could tell him to counter some sides from SSRI's as I had to go back on them?
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    Been placed on trt within the last year so I have been reading up on it a bit, gdevine would you be willing to post or pm me your full supplement list escpecially the ones needed for trt ?

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    I wonder, if our trusted board sponsor would be willing to include some of the meds included in the GD Protocol? Specifically, Cabergoline as it would be a benefit to some of us on TRT as well as SSRI's.

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    Great discussion GD! I noticed you are taking your Test IM. Weren't you doing sq at some point? wondering if that's true why you switch? Also where are you injecting and what gauge are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkster View Post
    Did your A4M Doc prescribe it for you? What can I tell my Doc to get him to prescribe it for me? Maybe, I could tell him to counter some sides from SSRI's as I had to go back on them?
    Yes, he did prescribe it. I told him I wanted to slightly lower my Proclatin levels and get the benefits of increased libido, stronger orgasms and short refractory periods...he was all over it!!!

    He tried it for the same reason and got moderate results...I get pretty good results from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotty2 View Post
    Been placed on trt within the last year so I have been reading up on it a bit, gdevine would you be willing to post or pm me your full supplement list escpecially the ones needed for trt ?
    Already did; go to the top of this thread.

    Are you looking for something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMan96 View Post
    Great discussion GD! I noticed you are taking your Test IM. Weren't you doing sq at some point? wondering if that's true why you switch? Also where are you injecting and what gauge are you using?
    Yea, I am pretty much back t 100% IM...just easier I guess than drawing up a slin pin with heavy esters.

    I inject mostly in the glutes, less chance of hitting a vein or nerve and less pain.

    I also z-track all IM injections as well.

    I use a 29g 1" 1/4' B&D rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine

    Yea, I am pretty much back t 100% IM...just easier I guess than drawing up a slin pin with heavy esters.

    I inject mostly in the glutes, less chance of hitting a vein or nerve and less pain.

    I also z-track all IM injections as well.

    I use a 29g 1" 1/4' B&D rig.
    Could you explain "z-track", not sure what that is?

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    Could you explain "z-track", not sure what that is?
    It means pulling the skin tight with one hand and injecting with the other while keep tension on the skin. When you are done injecting pull the needle out and let go of the skin. What this does is prevent any testosterone to leak out of the hole or blood to leak out as well. The hole in the skin is now away from the actual injection site.

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    I was under the impression that this was only a portion of what you take, if this is it nevermind then, you seem to know your stuff so I was trying to get your supp regimen and have you do all the leg work for me haha. I have the basics- protein,multi,krill oil,zinc and magnesium,vit d,etc. Just started pregnelone today, noticed a modest increase in sense of well-being. How did you go about getting seligiline? I just became aware that I can not recieve pm's until I get like 50 post, is their anyways you can tell me where you get your cialis at, a month supply from the pharmacy is like $ 160 dollars for 5 mgs. per day.

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    GD how does your wife keep up with your libido?

    I'm 36 and between being on TRT and the cialis my 34 y/o fiancée can't even come close to keeping up with me. I feel like I'm walking on egg shells when I mention sex to her lol.

    Hell, I thought women reached their primed and ready for sex in their 30's but her Max for sex is maybe if I'm lucky just 2 times a week.

    Thank goodness for all the free porn on the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotty2 View Post
    I was under the impression that this was only a portion of what you take, if this is it nevermind then, you seem to know your stuff so I was trying to get your supp regimen and have you do all the leg work for me haha. I have the basics- protein,multi,krill oil,zinc and magnesium,vit d,etc. Just started pregnelone today, noticed a modest increase in sense of well-being. How did you go about getting seligiline? I just became aware that I can not recieve pm's until I get like 50 post, is their anyways you can tell me where you get your cialis at, a month supply from the pharmacy is like $ 160 dollars for 5 mgs. per day.
    I have a vitamin protocol if that's what you mean?

    I will list it tonight when I get home from the gym.

    I get Selegiline from my Doc via a scrip.

    It can be had from overseas pharmacy's as well.

    You need more posts before we can PM.

    Get active man and get that count up if you want my secret place
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    Quote Originally Posted by TraceMYD View Post
    GD how does your wife keep up with your libido?

    I'm 36 and between being on TRT and the cialis my 34 y/o fiancée can't even come close to keeping up with me. I feel like I'm walking on egg shells when I mention sex to her lol.

    Hell, I thought women reached their primed and ready for sex in their 30's but her Max for sex is maybe if I'm lucky just 2 times a week.

    Thank goodness for all the free porn on the Internet.
    I will be 53 in July and if I could I'd have sex every freaking day...right now it's at least three times a week and we've been together 15 years...and the sex is wild man

    Yea, and for those in-between days....thank you Internet

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraceMYD View Post
    GD how does your wife keep up with your libido?

    I'm 36 and between being on TRT and the cialis my 34 y/o fiancée can't even come close to keeping up with me. I feel like I'm walking on egg shells when I mention sex to her lol.

    Hell, I thought women reached their primed and ready for sex in their 30's but her Max for sex is maybe if I'm lucky just 2 times a week.

    Thank goodness for all the free porn on the Internet.

    G's a monitor on one of those sites as well......
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel

    G's a monitor on one of those sites as well......
    Hahahaha good one Kel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine
    Okay, I've gotten enough PM's and requests for my personal supplement protocol so here it is. I did not include vitamins and nutrients here; the list below is more focused on anti-aging and performance benefits for a man that I tailored to work for me.

    Objectives:
    * Increased Blood Flow
    * Increased Vascularity
    * Increased Erection Quality
    * Increased Libido
    * Increased Prostate Health
    * Increased Performance in Gym
    * Prophylactic Neurological Benefits (Decrease likelihood of Alzheimer's & Dementia)
    * Optimize Blood Pressure
    * ...the list goes on.

    Mornings:
    25 mg of micronized SR DHEA
    50 mg of micronized SR Pregneneolone
    2.5 mg of Selegiline

    Afternoons:
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    1 mg of Doxazosin
    1000 mg of L-Carnitine
    1500 mg of Horny Goat Weed (Icariin)
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    Bed:
    25 mg of micronized SR DHEA
    1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    1 mg of Doxazosin
    1000 mg of L-Carnitine
    1500 mg of Horny Goat Weed (Icariin)
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    Pre & Post Workout Shakes
    Syntha-6 Isolate
    NOW L-Arginine Powder Pharmacy Grade Micronized
    BCAA's
    Creatine Monohydrate
    MYO-X
    Pre: C-4

    TRT Protocol
    Monday AM: 60 mg of Test Cyp IM & .25 mg of Cabergoline (Dostinex)
    Thursday PM: 60 mg of Test Cyp IM & .25 mg of Cabergoline (Dostinex)
    Monday/Wednesday/Friday: 250 iu of HCG
    Any recommendation for girly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    G's a monitor on one of those sites as well......
    There he goes again...

    He's the one always asking me for the damn URL LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Any recommendation for girly?
    Yep, it's exactly the same.

    Low dose Tadalafil has many health benefits for women GGR.

    By suppressing the PDE5i enzyme, what a PDE5 inhibitor compound does, increases NO serum levels in our bodies; male of female.

    Getting blood into places that are harder to get to as we age is a wonderful thing and very healthy all the way around...especially in the brain!

    As for the benefits in the gym, any time we can increase NO (look at all the NO performance products on the shelf today!) we get better performance in the gym. The ability to get oxygen, nutrients and all the amino acids and other supplements into the blood stream and into the muscle tissues faster and with greater saturation the better...and that's just some of the benefits of a PDE5i.

    Sexually, women have responded very positively to the low dose of Tadalafil. More sensitivity and better stronger clitoral response, among other things, have been reported.

    For a women, I wouldn't change a thing to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine

    Yep, it's exactly the same.

    Low dose Tadalafil has many health benefits for women GGR.

    By suppressing the PDE5i enzyme, what a PDE5 inhibitor compound does, increases NO serum levels in our bodies; male of female.

    Getting blood into places that are harder to get to as we age is a wonderful thing and very healthy all the way around...especially in the brain!

    As for the benefits in the gym, any time we can increase NO (look at all the NO performance products on the shelf today!) we get better performance in the gym. The ability to get oxygen, nutrients and all the amino acids and other supplements into the blood stream and into the muscle tissues faster and with greater saturation the better...and that's just some of the benefits of a PDE5i.

    Sexually, women have responded very positively to the low dose of Tadalafil. More sensitivity and better stronger clitoral response, among other things, have been reported.

    For a women, I wouldn't change a thing to be honest.
    Thx. This is all over counter?
    Silly but i havent heard of most of this stuff and i have a hard time taking a vitamin daily but recently noticing undesirable changes. Waiting on BW results.

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    The one thing I like about these three classes of amino acids, besides their ability to increase NO, is their ability to reduce body fat, increase cellular energy, transport fatty acids, aid in muscle and tissue repair and are all involved with urea metabolism and excretion (accelerates recovery and why I take before bed as well) as well as DNA synthesis.

    Best of class these three IMO...but there are others.

    I like the family of BCAA's like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Thx. This is all over counter?
    Silly but i havent heard of most of this stuff and i have a hard time taking a vitamin daily but recently noticing undesirable changes. Waiting on BW results.
    All OTC except Tadalafil and Doxazosin. These can be purchased via online pharmacies pretty easily.

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    the stuff you post is awesome and so helpful I cant wait to get stuff dialed in, it takes time but everyones help on here has been great I appreciate everyones responses even if my posts aren't great.

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    the stuff you post is awesome and so helpful I cant wait to get stuff dialed in, it takes time but everyones help on here has been great I appreciate everyones responses even if my posts aren't great.
    Enough of that my man; everyone's posts are important and great...don't put yourself down like that.

    Read, study and learn and become an active member of this great community of ours.

    I truly believe we have the best male international Hormone Replacement Therapy forum on the Internet now and it's because of members just like you caira!!!

    gd

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    GD also noticed you are not taking any AI. How are you getting away with this... Is something with your sups helping with this? What is your E2 running if you don't mind me asking?

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