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    GD's Supplements

    Okay, I've gotten enough PM's and requests for my personal supplement protocol so here it is. I did not include vitamins and nutrients here; the list below is more focused on anti-aging and performance benefits for a man that I tailored to work for me.

    Objectives:
    * Increased Blood Flow
    * Increased Vascularity
    * Increased Erection Quality
    * Increased Libido
    * Increased Prostate Health
    * Increased Performance in Gym
    * Prophylactic Neurological Benefits (Decrease likelihood of Alzheimer's & Dementia)
    * Optimize Blood Pressure
    * ...the list goes on.

    Mornings:
    25 mg of micronized SR DHEA
    50 mg of micronized SR Pregneneolone
    2.5 mg of Selegiline

    Afternoons:
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    1 mg of Doxazosin
    1000 mg of L-Carnitine
    1500 mg of Horny Goat Weed (Icariin)
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    Bed:
    25 mg of micronized SR DHEA
    1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    1 mg of Doxazosin
    1000 mg of L-Carnitine
    1500 mg of Horny Goat Weed (Icariin)
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    Pre & Post Workout Shakes
    Syntha-6 Isolate
    NOW L-Arginine Powder Pharmacy Grade Micronized
    BCAA's
    Creatine Monohydrate
    MYO-X
    Pre: C-4

    TRT Protocol
    Monday AM: 60 mg of Test Cyp IM & .25 mg of Cabergoline (Dostinex)
    Thursday PM: 60 mg of Test Cyp IM & .25 mg of Cabergoline (Dostinex)
    Monday/Wednesday/Friday: 250 iu of HCG
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    What's the purpose of caber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    What's the purpose of caber?
    Lowers Prolactin increases Libido...and trust me, it works

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    Gdevine, what does your blood pressure typically run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by test-one View Post
    Gdevine, what does your blood pressure typically run?
    Almost consistently 115/75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Lowers Prolactin increases Libido...and trust me, it works
    gdevine, seeing as im not on trt and m 23, would taking dhea be a dumb move? My cortisol in the past, has been at top of range. Would dhea help with my workouts?
    I also have anxiety a lot would that supp with a ''p'' forgot name...help if im not on trt?

    i dont think i need the others.

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    G well damn if that isn't that a plethora of supplements!
    Maybe more of a cornucopia. Not sure yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    gdevine, seeing as im not on trt and m 23, would taking dhea be a dumb move? My cortisol in the past, has been at top of range. Would dhea help with my workouts?
    I also have anxiety a lot would that supp with a ''p'' forgot name...help if im not on trt?

    i dont think i need the others.
    Generally speaking, when the adrenal's are aggravated/stressed labs tend to show a higher synthesis of conversion of Pregnenolone to Progesterone and less of DHEA.

    Low DHEA levels can lead onto Thyroid issues which can lead onto Hypogonadism...wonderful how this cascade of events happens isn't it.

    One symptom of low DHEA levels are anxiety and can be cured with DHEA supplementation as noted by Drs. Gordon and Crisler.

    So, to answer your question, yes you could benefit from supplementing DHEA but I'd like to see blood work first just to make sure your DHEA-S points to less than ideal levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    G well damn if that isn't that a plethora of supplements!
    Maybe more of a cornucopia. Not sure yet.
    More like a luxuriance, kel LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Almost consistently 115/75.
    What do you attribute that consistent reading to...sups, trt, hcg , or all?

    Im curious as to whether or not trt in of itself lowers bp?

    Edited as the sentence was horrendously worded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by test-one View Post
    What you consider attribute that consistent reading to...sups, trt, hcg , or all?

    Im curious as to whether or not trt in of itself lowers bp?
    The two that have the most effect (albeit mild due to the low doses) on BP is Tadalafil and Doxazosin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    The two that have the most effect (albeit mild due to the low doses) on BP is Tadalafil and Doxazosin.
    I knew you were on a ton of supps with forearm veins that engorged , looking like a road map!

    I would definitely agree on the Tadalafil. 3 weeks ago my bp was something like 138/89 ( had multiple readings with systolic was high) and since I have been taking 10mg Tadalfil split into two dosages. It was 110/79 two days ago ;0

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Lowers Prolactin increases Libido...and trust me, it works
    It did nothing for me. Maybe I will try it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Okay, I've gotten enough PM's and requests for my personal supplement protocol so here it is. I did not include vitamins and nutrients here; the list below is more focused on anti-aging and performance benefits for a man that I tailored to work for me.

    Objectives:
    * Increased Blood Flow
    * Increased Vascularity
    * Increased Erection Quality
    * Increased Libido
    * Increased Prostate Health
    * Increased Performance in Gym
    * Prophylactic Neurological Benefits (Decrease likelihood of Alzheimer's & Dementia)
    * Optimize Blood Pressure
    * ...the list goes on.

    Mornings:
    25 mg of micronized SR DHEA
    50 mg of micronized SR Pregneneolone
    2.5 mg of Selegiline

    Afternoons:
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    1 mg of Doxazosin
    1000 mg of L-Carnitine
    1500 mg of Horny Goat Weed (Icariin)
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    Bed:
    25 mg of micronized SR DHEA
    1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    1 mg of Doxazosin
    1000 mg of L-Carnitine
    1500 mg of Horny Goat Weed (Icariin)
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    Pre & Post Workout Shakes
    Syntha-6 Isolate
    NOW L-Arginine Powder Pharmacy Grade Micronized
    BCAA's
    Creatine Monohydrate
    MYO-X
    Pre: C-4

    TRT Protocol
    Monday AM: 60 mg of Test Cyp IM & .25 mg of Cabergoline (Dostinex)
    Thursday PM: 60 mg of Test Cyp IM & .25 mg of Cabergoline (Dostinex)
    Monday/Wednesday/Friday: 250 iu of HCG
    Ok I'm not on trt or anything and still relatively young( 33)Already started taking 60% of what you listed here. My question is for the tadalafil. Would the bored sponsor liq C be ok to supplement this? My BP is borderline. And been reading the benefits it has on BP. And have no reason even to go ask about scrip for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasondd1 View Post
    It did nothing for me. Maybe I will try it again.
    We're all different; what works for one may not for another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomamma007 View Post
    i knew you were on a ton of supps with forearm veins that engorged , looking like a road map!

    I would definitely agree on the tadalafil. 3 weeks ago my bp was something like 138/89 ( had multiple readings with systolic was high) and since i have been taking 10mg tadalfil split into two dosages. it was 110/79 two days ago ;0
    Very nice!!!

    Just so you know re my forearms, this was 10 hours after the gym and it was leg day; they look like this most of the time. You should see what they look like in the gym when it's upper body days...it's sic man
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    Quote Originally Posted by goode80 View Post
    Ok I'm not on trt or anything and still relatively young( 33)Already started taking 60% of what you listed here. My question is for the tadalafil. Would the bored sponsor liq C be ok to supplement this? My BP is borderline. And been reading the benefits it has on BP. And have no reason even to go ask about scrip for it.
    PM me and I will point you in the right direction for Pharm Grade Tadalafil in pill form...and cheap to boot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    PM me and I will point you in the right direction for Pharm Grade Tadalafil in pill form...and cheap to boot!
    Pm sent, TY

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Very nice!!!
    How do you like that horny goat weed for pumps in the gym?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomamma007 View Post
    How do you like that horny goat weed for pumps in the gym?
    It's the Icariin in it that I like.

    Icariin is a natural form of a PDE5i.

    Granted we need to take huge doses to do what a small 5 mg of Tadalafil will do but when stacked like this it works great.

    Love the stuff and been taking it for years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomamma007 View Post
    I knew you were on a ton of supps with forearm veins that engorged , looking like a road map!

    I would definitely agree on the Tadalafil. 3 weeks ago my bp was something like 138/89 ( had multiple readings with systolic was high) and since I have been taking 10mg Tadalfil split into two dosages. It was 110/79 two days ago ;0
    How did you arrive at your present dose?

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    Very cool GD. Thanks for sharing this. Interesting choices in Amino Acids. Now you've sent me reading!
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    Heading to examine.com austin?


    Here's another supplement with similar properties to Icariin to check out....

    http://examine.com/supplements/Chlor...+Borivilianum/


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12646997
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    lmao. thats exactly where I was. Thanks for the link!

    You already got me on Coleus Forskohlii. With everything else I take I don't know how much more I can handle. But I love my supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Okay, I've gotten enough PM's and requests for my personal supplement protocol so here it is. I did not include vitamins and nutrients here; the list below is more focused on anti-aging and performance benefits for a man that I tailored to work for me.

    Objectives:
    * Increased Blood Flow
    * Increased Vascularity
    * Increased Erection Quality
    * Increased Libido
    * Increased Prostate Health
    * Increased Performance in Gym
    * Prophylactic Neurological Benefits (Decrease likelihood of Alzheimer's & Dementia)
    * Optimize Blood Pressure
    * ...the list goes on.

    Mornings:
    25 mg of micronized SR DHEA
    50 mg of micronized SR Pregneneolone
    2.5 mg of Selegiline

    Afternoons:
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    1 mg of Doxazosin
    1000 mg of L-Carnitine
    1500 mg of Horny Goat Weed (Icariin)
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    Bed:
    25 mg of micronized SR DHEA
    1000 mg of L-Tyrosine
    5 mg of Tadalafil
    1 mg of Doxazosin
    1000 mg of L-Carnitine
    1500 mg of Horny Goat Weed (Icariin)
    1000 mg of L-Arginine
    1000 mg of L-Citrulline

    Pre & Post Workout Shakes
    Syntha-6 Isolate
    NOW L-Arginine Powder Pharmacy Grade Micronized
    BCAA's
    Creatine Monohydrate
    MYO-X
    Pre: C-4

    TRT Protocol
    Monday AM: 60 mg of Test Cyp IM & .25 mg of Cabergoline (Dostinex)
    Thursday PM: 60 mg of Test Cyp IM & .25 mg of Cabergoline (Dostinex)
    Monday/Wednesday/Friday: 250 iu of HCG
    what's the main reason for taking all those blood enhancers at night? Also do you take zinc? It lowers estrogen right, but doesn't it also lower dht?

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    ^ have you seen his forearm??
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    Quote Originally Posted by test-one View Post
    How did you arrive at your present dose?
    Found most others on this board taking 5mg twice a day, and just tried it for myself. I recommend starting at 5mg, even split that into two dosages and let your body adjust. Starting at 10mg gave me headaches and a few other sides for the first week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Very cool GD. Thanks for sharing this. Interesting choices in Amino Acids. Now you've sent me reading!
    austinite - You should see how crazy the vascularity gets in the gym during an intense workout.

    I supper set Z-bar and hammer curls and the veins shoot out like something in a Muscle Mag...it's sic man!

    Love the stack man...just works and healthy to boot!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    austinite - You should see how crazy the vascularity gets in the gym during an intense workout.

    I supper set Z-bar and hammer curls and the veins shoot out like something in a Muscle Mag...it's sic man!

    Love the stack man...just works and healthy to boot!!!
    Everything is already on order. Estimated arrival date Thursday the 18th I've done more reading on that stuff in the past day or so that I just went ahead and ordered them.

    I'm excited.
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    Follow my stack, including the amino acids, and you will see...it's crazy...and erection quality is nuts!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Follow my stack, including the amino acids, and you will see...it's crazy...and erection quality is nuts!!!

    I'm thinking there's a joke there somewhere?
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    This is extremely helpful - Im looking into the Neurological benefits as we speak.

    Thanks for sharing this GD.

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    You say pharm grade arginine? Do you have a site for this too? Lol. I have 1000mg pills.

    Found "nutrition dome" sells jarrow formulas.

    Very cheap, but never heard anything about this site or products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goode80 View Post
    You say pharm grade arginine? Do you have a site for this too? Lol. I have 1000mg pills.

    Found "nutrition dome" sells jarrow formulas.

    Very cheap, but never heard anything about this site or products.
    Pharmacy Grade 100% pure: Amino Acid Supplements: L-Arginine Powder

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    GD:

    1- Do you typically have elevated prolactin (when not using caber), or are you purposely trying to keep it low? If the former, what do you think is contributing to that, assuming you're not using any 19-Nor's outside of your TRT protocol

    2- You (I believe it was you) recently mentioned the site/company where you've started getting your DHEA/Preg from - it wasn't LEF (as in the past) - what was that company again, and why did you switch from LEF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    GD:

    1- Do you typically have elevated prolactin (when not using caber), or are you purposely trying to keep it low? If the former, what do you think is contributing to that, assuming you're not using any 19-Nor's outside of your TRT protocol
    My Prolactin has always been mid reference range. I use caber more for the kick I get in libido. I use a very tiny dose of .25 mg twice a week on injection days so its effect is extremely mild and move Prolactin down to about one third of the reference range.

    2- You (I believe it was you) recently mentioned the site/company where you've started getting your DHEA/Preg from - it wasn't LEF (as in the past) - what was that company again, and why did you switch from LEF?
    McPherson Labs. Pharmacy Grade 100% pure, ultra micronized and slow release (SR). Just what Dr. Rouizer prescribes.
    McPherson Labs DHEA Store

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    McPherson Labs. Pharmacy Grade 100% pure, ultra micronized and slow release (SR). Just what Dr. Rouizer prescribes.
    McPherson Labs DHEA Store
    Thanks for the info. Re: prolactin - if you recall, mine was (very) slightly elevated, although last labs had it within range at a decent score. Further, I've been feeling better in that regard. I would like to lower it further though, I may look into getting some caber for the same reasons you supplement it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    Thanks for the info. Re: prolactin - if you recall, mine was (very) slightly elevated, although last labs had it within range at a decent score. Further, I've been feeling better in that regard. I would like to lower it further though, I may look into getting some caber for the same reasons you supplement it.
    My Doc is a well known TRT A4M Physician. He likes Prolactin in the lower end of the reference range for a lot of reasons; feels it's healthier for men.

    gb - Remember, small doses like .25 mg E3D or twice a week as per my schedule.

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    At the gym. I couldn't wait for my Amino's to arrive so I purchased some locally. I'll give feedback when I get back... So far I'm impressed. But I'll have a couple pints to bring up when I get back.
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