what are your opinions on transsexuals using trt?

[powerlifterty16]

i dont support it, as bigoted as that sounds...but jc what others think?

[bass]

TRT if for health reasons, it doesn't mater what your sexual orientation is. not that I care but what is your reason?

[powerlifterty16]

rather not get into it, but i dont believe that their issues are health related. id say they need more counseling than steroids .just to be clear i mean females who use t to ''change into'' males.

[Metalject]

If a woman is going to be allowed to use anabolic steroids for the purpose of looking like a man, a man should have the right to use anabolic steroids for the purpose of enhancing performance. Any law that says those who desire to live a transgendered lifestyle have a right to use these hormones for a non-medical purpose but doesn't support the right for men to use them outside a medical purpose is a law that deserves no respect IMO.

I think it's also important to state that my argument isn't based on a transgendered lifestyle being right or wrong. The argument is far simpler than that. The law states these people are allowed to use these hormones because denying them the right to use them denies them to live their life in the way they desire. Is denying a man who wants to use the same hormones so he looks and feels a little better any different? No, it's not.

[Allaaro]

Don't really agree with it...yet at the same time I think everyone should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies. So go at it full blast....just I'm not really sure if that transition is really wise without a doctors support. But I'm lacking experience in this subject

[powerlifterty16]

Don't really agree with it...yet at the same time I think everyone should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies. So go at it full blast....just I'm not really sure if that transition is really wise without a doctors support. But I'm lacking experience in this subject

LOL im a male..all 6'2 205 pounds 315 benching of me LOL. I just have been searching test vids on youtube and seeing a lot of transgenders.

this vid is pretty crazy...
1 yr & 9 mos on T (FTM Testosterone Update) Kamari aka Lyrikal - YouTube

[mohawkman]

Why would you ask some sh.,t like that ?

[powerlifterty16]

Why would you ask some sh.,t like that ?

curiosity.

[zillagod]

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[powerlifterty16]

i just think its a little unfair that a women who wants to become a man can get test. but when a man has low test, and is young btw; has to jump through hoops and hoops to find help and eventually (if not ever) get any test so it seems.. but who knows, im sure there is more to it..

there really isnt more to it..you hit the nail on the head. The sad thing these people dont realize is that they are still women. They are just now women who look like men. If you guys think im being unfair, ask yourself this, would you date a transwoman? aka looks female but is biologically male..i ffs wouldnt lol.

[Times Roman]

i dont support it, as bigoted as that sounds...but jc what others think?

I don't have an opinion on it beyond what I would ordinarily tell anyone.

[crazy mike]

If a woman is going to be allowed to use anabolic steroids for the purpose of looking like a man, a man should have the right to use anabolic steroids for the purpose of enhancing performance. Any law that says those who desire to live a transgendered lifestyle have a right to use these hormones for a non-medical purpose but doesn't support the right for men to use them outside a medical purpose is a law that deserves no respect IMO.

I think it's also important to state that my argument isn't based on a transgendered lifestyle being right or wrong. The argument is far simpler than that. The law states these people are allowed to use these hormones because denying them the right to use them denies them to live their life in the way they desire. Is denying a man who wants to use the same hormones so he looks and feels a little better any different? No, it's not.

Good post. ...crazy mike

[powerlifterty16]

I don't have an opinion on it beyond what I would ordinarily tell anyone.

in this case, they dont have any testicles so there is no normal in this case, unless we think of other biological females. Some females require trt at low doses for health, and that i'd support, but i cant justify giving them steroids to become manly.

[Black]

To me, it would be a mind fvck. Even if a woman has always felt like a man and takes hormones, it would all go to waste when they get naked to take a shower and look down and go, "oh sh!t, I still have a pvssy".

[laser]

I had to struggle, and suffer just to get TRT, (Straight male). I believe in live, and let live, although....recently when I was researching Therapy. I noticed a lot of LGBT's looking for doctors to transform their underage adopted kids......Now I think that's cruel, and yrs down the road it will have a backlash of problems, and the kid will prob hate them for messing up their lives.

[SEOINAGE]

Well here's my opinion. I don't think insurance should be required to pay for it. but I think they should be allowed to live their lives however they choose, especially in this case it really isn't hurting anyone else. And like metalject and another said, this should extend to men who want to use test for whatever purposes they choose. I think education would be the most important thing the government could do with this as well as make it legal, maybe a tiny course to inform adults of the dangers and consequences. But really the government needs to be out of our bloodstreams, we claim we are free, yet we can't have control over our own bodies.

[dreadnok89]

Sane could be said about movie stars and hip hop entertainers. I read an article where Mary j oblige got caught using hahaha. Look at all these actors that get hopped up on shit and its fine.

[teezer33]

Each is to their own, this is still a free country for the most part. I believe it's opinions like that who are judgmental of what they don't understand that turns this country into a dictatorship. If a person wants change their appearance then they should be allowed. Isn't that what why we are all here in this website, to make ourselves different than what were were, why else use AAS. Worst case scenario learn the crocodile Dundee handshake.

[powerlifterty16]

I had to struggle, and suffer just to get TRT, (Straight male). I believe in live, and let live, although....recently when I was researching Therapy. I noticed a lot of LGBT's looking for doctors to transform their underage adopted kids......Now I think that's cruel, and yrs down the road it will have a backlash of problems, and the kid will prob hate them for messing up their lives.

wait what??? the parents adopted a kid of one gender and tried to change it to another...WHY!??! if they adopted the kid int he first place, then they hd a choice of what gender they wanted... did they want to change the kid gay or something?

[powerlifterty16]

it's funny that society says 17 year old girls cant consent to sex, but little kids can consent to getting their dicks cut off and estrogen injected into them....

[powerlifterty16]

Each is to their own, this is still a free country for the most part. I believe it's opinions like that who are judgmental of what they don't understand that turns this country into a dictatorship. If a person wants change their appearance then they should be allowed. Isn't that what why we are all here in this website, to make ourselves different than what were were, why else use AAS. Worst case scenario learn the crocodile Dundee handshake.

trt isnt meant for cosmetic purposes, you may be abusing it, but i wouldnt if i got it prescribed, and guys like hrtstudent are on it for good reasons too.

[spywizard]

Don't really agree with it...yet at the same time I think everyone should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies. So go at it full blast....just I'm not really sure if that transition is really wise without a doctors support. But I'm lacking experience in this subject

hmmm want to take it a step further??

What about the medical costs that historically these people take?? what about the publicly funded medical care that smokers and drug users get?? should people that make poor choices be refused medical care based on the decisions they make causing harm to their own bodies??

what about people with adult onset diabetes ???

And what government agency/panel gets to make those decisions based on what values that they have??

[powerlifterty16]

Well here's my opinion. I don't think insurance should be required to pay for it. but I think they should be allowed to live their lives however they choose, especially in this case it really isn't hurting anyone else. And like metalject and another said, this should extend to men who want to use test for whatever purposes they choose. I think education would be the most important thing the government could do with this as well as make it legal, maybe a tiny course to inform adults of the dangers and consequences. But really the government needs to be out of our bloodstreams, we claim we are free, yet we can't have control over our own bodies.

i think drug regulation is a good thing. alcohol which is a drug, needs to be more regulated as it is dangerous and people arent responsible with all the drunk deaths. cigarettes interfere with my life when i have to walk by morons pudding outside of stores, and im not a fan of weed or any other drugs. I dont like steroids either because even though im not in a competition it puts me at a disadvantage. The tallest, strongest guys are usually the most successful with women, in business, in life, and it's rough knowing people are cheating their ways to good lives.

[spywizard]

it's funny that society says 17 year old girls cant consent to sex, but little kids can consent to getting their dicks cut off and estrogen injected into them....

mostly just here in the USA... there are many countries where the age of consent is much lower.. check out South America..

and back to my point.. who pays for these treatments??

[powerlifterty16]

mostly just here in the USA... there are many countries where the age of consent is much lower.. check out South America..

and back to my point.. who pays for these treatments??

15 year olds are getting more and more attractive with all he hormones in our foods.,,,as for your last point, it's not much diff than steroid induced hypogonadism

[laser]

wait what??? the parents adopted a kid of one gender and tried to change it to another...WHY!??! if they adopted the kid int he first place, then they hd a choice of what gender they wanted... did they want to change the kid gay or something?

Its crazy...I guess they are doing this as a way to make a statement. Serious though..go to you tube do some searches like testosterone transformations. Also I used goggle, looking for TRT related stuff, and found a forum full of people talking about Doctors to take their underage kids to for a gender transformation.

I think those kids should atleast be 18, and make their own choices, instead of having regrets later in life...

[spywizard]

15 year olds are getting more and more attractive with all he hormones in our foods.,,,as for your last point, it's not much diff than steroid induced hypogonadism

how do you determine if it's steroid induced, or pre pubescent..

[laser]

there really isnt more to it..you hit the nail on the head. The sad thing these people dont realize is that they are still women. They are just now women who look like men. If you guys think im being unfair, ask yourself this, would you date a transwoman? aka looks female but is biologically male..i ffs wouldnt lol.

LOL.....I have heard some stories about guys dating males that transformed into looking like a woman......They always got a surprize in the end.............LOL.........glad I am married, and know my wifes history........I do not need no surprizes, kinda like a cracker jacks box always a surpize inside.

Plus from the stories going around a lot of trans genders are not upfront, and honest.....it is a jungle out there.......glad I do not go to the bars........I do not care what they do, but how many guys out there just finding a date really knows for sure?

[krugerr]

LOL.....I have heard some stories about guys dating males that transformed into looking like a woman......They always got a surprize in the end.............LOL.........glad I am married, and know my wifes history........I do not need no surprizes, kinda like a cracker jacks box always a surpize inside.

Plus from the stories going around a lot of trans genders are not upfront, and honest.....it is a jungle out there.......glad I do not go to the bars........I do not care what they do, but how many guys out there just finding a date really knows for sure?

I'm quite partial to a bit of TG porn. I personally wouldn't have a problem dating a TG at all. It's still quite a taboo thing I guess, but if they're wanting to be women, treat them as such.

Sorry OP for the derail!

[powerlifterty16]

how do you determine if it's steroid induced, or pre pubescent..

huh? just ask them?

[powerlifterty16]

I'm quite partial to a bit of TG porn. I personally wouldn't have a problem dating a TG at all. It's still quite a taboo thing I guess, but if they're wanting to be women, treat them as such.

Sorry OP for the derail!

trannys are still men, andi dont support it so i still treat them as men..although i still am nice to them irl

[powerlifterty16]

LOL.....I have heard some stories about guys dating males that transformed into looking like a woman......They always got a surprize in the end.............LOL.........glad I am married, and know my wifes history........I do not need no surprizes, kinda like a cracker jacks box always a surpize inside.

Plus from the stories going around a lot of trans genders are not upfront, and honest.....it is a jungle out there.......glad I do not go to the bars........I do not care what they do, but how many guys out there just finding a date really knows for sure?

the thing that scares me is hooking up with a post op tranny..because they are still men in my eyes,

[laser]

I'm quite partial to a bit of TG porn. I personally wouldn't have a problem dating a TG at all. It's still quite a taboo thing I guess, but if they're wanting to be women, treat them as such.

Sorry OP for the derail!

I do not care what people choose to do.....I just thinking how out of place it would be for a straight male, to find out the wrong way? Seems like it would be something to be upfront about.....what if the real guy is planning a biological family some day, dates this other male for yrs then finds out the hard way on his honeymoon night......not good.

This stuff has happened many times too. I know a guy that unknowingly married a TG guy, then immediately filed for a divorce....the TG filed counter suit, trying to weasel spouse support out of him......it was a con from the beginning.

[krugerr]

trannys are still men, andi dont support it so i still treat them as men..although i still am nice to them irl

Well from a legal viewpoint, they're women. If they undergo sexual realignment surgery, they can change their legal status to female. I've met some that look like men I'm drag,, and I've met some that are more beautiful than most women. Bailey Jay being a perfect example.

[krugerr]

I do not care what people choose to do.....I just thinking how out of place it would be for a straight male, to find out the wrong way? Seems like it would be something to be upfront about.....what if the real guy is planning a biological family some day, dates this other male for yrs then finds out the hard way on his honeymoon night......not good

Most of them are up front, I've only heard made up horror stories, no real stories. I do agree though, if it isn't obvious, and the name is unaware, they should be told. You mostly meet these ladies in certain clubs or online. They tend to stick to their own communities.

[powerlifterty16]

Well from a legal viewpoint, they're women. If they undergo sexual realignment surgery, they can change their legal status to female. I've met some that look like men I'm drag,, and I've met some that are more beautiful than most women. Bailey Jay being a perfect example.

yes legally they are considered women, and some are more passable and feminine than natural women, i still consider them men however, and knowing they are men makes me lose anya attraction id otherwise have towards them, and if i hooked up with one unknowingly id be very sour.

[krugerr]

yes legally they are considered women, and some are more passable and feminine than natural women, i still consider them men however, and knowing they are men makes me lose anya attraction id otherwise have towards them, and if i hooked up with one unknowingly id be very sour.

Just send them my way then bro. I'll be happy to help, just don't tell my Mrs!

[laser]

I have to admit, it is amazing watching those you tube videos. Women transforming into men from start to finish. Just goes to show how important/potent testosterone is........ If it makes them happy let em go for it. There are a lot of things I do not understand, we are not living in their bodies, and do not know whats going on in their heads. Everyone wants quality of life. I wonder if now that women are in full combat operations in the military if they will have access to steroids ? anyone know anything about it? Being on the front combat lines, steroids would be a life saver.

[dreadnok89]

I'm quite partial to a bit of TG porn. I personally wouldn't have a problem dating a TG at all. It's still quite a taboo thing I guess, but if they're wanting to be women, treat them as such.

Sorry OP for the derail!

Provably one of theee ballsiest and honest comments I have ever read on a board.

[dreadnok89]

But laser, the problem is if they were born a female. Your genetic code is what defines you. Just because you "feel" like a guy doesn't mean you should be able to get testosterone so godamn easy. Yet men with real problems get pushed to the wayside and told to "man up" that's ridicolous