Mental sex drive

**lovbyts** · 08-05-2014, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Machdiesel

100mg twice a week

Agreed with the above. Unless you have blood work to back that 200mg a week puts you at normal range then it's to much. I have known several guys who tried to keep their TRT levels at the upper limits above and every time it ended bad. I'm not saying no one can do it but for one you need a lot of blood work to keep track of your E2, prolactin, RBC and everything or you will feel worse.

**Machdiesel** · 08-05-2014, 01:08 PM

I get regular bloodwork my numbers are in my above post. My AI IS exemestane, 12.5 a day. Total test in range, free test slightly out of range high, 33 and top of range is 28 I believe

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 08-06-2014, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Machdiesel

I get regular bloodwork my numbers are in my above post. My AI IS exemestane, 12.5 a day. Total test in range, free test slightly out of range high, 33 and top of range is 28 I believe

If you stop and read your post and several other answers you seem to be answering your own questions and not answering all the question ask to you ?

DO you take HCG ?

Do you self medicate or have some type of Dr.

You are at high end of normal and you say you are not feeling right and upping AI

Sounds like you need less Test ?

= Less AI

= your E-2 needs to be watched and get it stablized around 25 to 30

I tanked my E-2 one time and felt awdul and you are realy lowering yours IMO , that is a great place to start to get lower Test levels and raise E-2

Keep a close watch on RBC probably high also = carcaic / heart issues and joint pain ?

All of this info is available in the stickies at the top of this section .

**lovbyts** · 08-06-2014, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper

If you stop and read your post and several other answers you seem to be answering your own questions and not answering all the question ask to you ?

DO you take HCG ?

Do you self medicate or have some type of Dr.

You are at high end of normal and you say you are not feeling right and upping AI

Sounds like you need less Test ?

= Less AI

= your E-2 needs to be watched and get it stablized around 25 to 30

I tanked my E-2 one time and felt awdul and you are realy lowering yours IMO , that is a great place to start to get lower Test levels and raise E-2

Keep a close watch on RBC probably high also = carcaic / heart issues and joint pain ?

All of this info is available in the stickies at the top of this section .

Agreed. Some people just dont like to hear the more is not better.

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 08-06-2014, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Machdiesel

I get regular bloodwork my numbers are in my above post. My AI IS exemestane, 12.5 a day. Total test in range, free test slightly out of range high, 33 and top of range is 28 I believe

You stated you get regular BW ?

Please forgive me but I fail to find it in this Thread ?

1) When was your last complete or partial Blood Panel ?
2) What id your E-2 level now ? If you don't know read the sticy at the top of this section and sducate yourself about SW and what the reading mean to YOU !
3) What is your RBC , Billirubin , General red blood count ?
4) Do you have a Dr. or are you self medicating ? There is o weong answer , just would be good to know ?
5) Why did you choose that AI or did a Dr. put you on it ?
6) Do you have the actual BW , computer printout from your most recent Blood Panel ? Did you have an Ultra Sensitive Male Estrogen test ran ?
7) What lab are you using for BW ? You need to post complete BW and there will most likely be an answer in that BW !
8) Are you only taking Testosterone ? Again do you take HCG ?
9) IMO the real pro's the smart guys will be able to look at your BW and along with the BW, please answer these question .

**lovbyts** · 08-07-2014, 12:38 AM

On a side note, there are people such as myself liquidstane does not work very well for. Adex works better IMO

**2Sox** · 08-07-2014, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Nothing wrong with having friends with benefits.

I'll bet if anyone had a choice of having a FWB or a having a real friend and partner to share your deepest feelings with and have larger emotions with, you'd chose the former.

I think when a guy has a friend with benefits, there is a mutual agreement to keep oneself intact and not go past a certain point in feeling more. It's an external form of self-love. Have you ever had sex in front of a mirror? Who are you looking at most of the time? Be honest? (And this can happen in long term relationships too. It's not exclusive to FBs or FWBs.) Sometimes, we just can't help ourselves and our emotions take us further. We fall in love. if we don't have larger feeling for another, we're just loving ourselves through another person. Just my opinion.

BTW, if anyone is interested, I edited my previous post above for greater clarity.

**Beethoven** · 08-07-2014, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

I'll bet if anyone had a choice of having a FWB or a having a real friend and partner to share your deepest feelings with and have larger emotions with, you'd chose the former.

I think when a guy has a friend with benefits, there is a mutual agreement to keep oneself intact and not go past a certain point in feeling more. It's an external form of self-love. Have you ever had sex in front of a mirror? Who are you looking at most of the time? Be honest? (And this can happen in long term relationships too. It's not exclusive to FBs or FWBs.) Sometimes, we just can't help ourselves and our emotions take us further. We fall in love. if we don't have larger feeling for another, we're just loving ourselves through another person. Just my opinion.

BTW, if anyone is interested, I edited my previous post above for greater clarity.

Now I will admit as I've gotten older, I like more "mental" stimulation, and being married for over twenty years I got the love part. That being said, a little purely "physical" encounter now and again would be ok.

(not that I'm in buzzmarines porn star status)

**OingoBoingo** · 08-07-2014, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Now I will admit as I've gotten older, I like more "mental" stimulation, and being married for over twenty years I got the love part. That being said, a little purely "physical" encounter now and again would be ok.

(not that I'm in buzzmarines porn star status)

That's why there's Bangkok!

**kelkel** · 08-07-2014, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

Have you ever had sex in front of a mirror?

By myself or with a partner?

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 08-07-2014, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

I'll bet if anyone had a choice of having a FWB or a having a real friend and partner to share your deepest feelings with and have larger emotions with, you'd chose the former.

I think when a guy has a friend with benefits, there is a mutual agreement to keep oneself intact and not go past a certain point in feeling more. It's an external form of self-love. Have you ever had sex in front of a mirror? Who are you looking at most of the time? Be honest? (And this can happen in long term relationships too. It's not exclusive to FBs or FWBs.) Sometimes, we just can't help ourselves and our emotions take us further. We fall in love. if we don't have larger feeling for another, we're just loving ourselves through another person. Just my opinion.

BTW, if anyone is interested, I edited my previous post above for greater clarity.

2SOX I think I used to be one of the older members of this forum ? Now 55 was married 12 years had 3 kids and I have now been divorced 12 years and if I want a friend to be close to and share stories I go get drunk and talk to a bartender ! I have never been happier than I am NOT MARRIED = I like me a lot and I am not co - dependendent ! I do not desire all the BS that goes with a full time commitmentment for life ! I like living with a ho a while and moving on ? All men are not of the same mind set !

**Beethoven** · 08-08-2014, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper

2SOX I think I used to be one of the older members of this forum ? Now 55 was married 12 years had 3 kids and I have now been divorced 12 years and if I want a friend to be close to and share stories I go get drunk and talk to a bartender ! I have never been happier than I am NOT MARRIED = I like me a lot and I am not co - dependendent ! I do not desire all the BS that goes with a full time commitmentment for life ! I like living with a ho a while and moving on ? All men are not of the same mind set !

I like it.

**Beethoven** · 08-08-2014, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by OingoBoingo

That's why there's Bangkok!

Got to go there.

**2Sox** · 08-08-2014, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Beethoven

I like it.

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**2Sox** · 08-08-2014, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper

2SOX I think I used to be one of the older members of this forum ? Now 55 was married 12 years had 3 kids and I have now been divorced 12 years and if I want a friend to be close to and share stories I go get drunk and talk to a bartender ! I have never been happier than I am NOT MARRIED = I like me a lot and I am not co - dependendent ! I do not desire all the BS that goes with a full time commitmentment for life ! I like living with a ho a while and moving on ? All men are not of the same mind set !

It's been said that one of the most traumatic events a man may go through in his life is a divorce. (The other is the death of a child.) Each man experiences it differently but from the men I've known who have gone through one, it seems it's a time of great introspection. The commonalities I've seen in every divorce are bitterness, sadness and a sense of great failure. My heart goes out to anyone who has gone through this. I've experienced painful breakups but I'm sure they don't come close.

My feelings is if a man can look at himself in the mirror each day and like what he sees; respects himself for the life he leads, then he should continue on that path. In my experience, there's always room for improvement.

**Beethoven** · 08-08-2014, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

It's been said that one of the most traumatic events a man may go through in his life is a divorce. (The other is the death of a child.) Each man experiences it differently but from the men I've known who have gone through one, it seems it's a time of great introspection. The commonalities I've seen in every divorce are bitterness, sadness and a sense of great failure. My heart goes out to anyone who has gone through this. I've experienced painful breakups but I'm sure they don't come close.

My feelings is if a man can look at himself in the mirror each day and like what he sees; respects himself for the life he leads, then he should continue on that path. In my experience, there's always room for improvement.

Sadness, bitterness or just plain glad to be free of her. Having been through two, it's usually the latter. The sadness is always when children are involved as it changes the daily interactions with them.

**ScotchGuard02** · 08-08-2014, 08:55 AM

This has been a real good read. Thanks for all the posts guys. I for one am really glad that I'm not like a horny bunny anymore. I'm in my mid 50's and I can look at beautiful women and just enjoy the lovely creatures that they are without having to put a jacket over my crotch. I've also noticed that the emotional relationship with my wife has grown much deeper. I think we go through natural phases which I welcome. The thing about AAS and TRT is that it helps me squeeze every drop of "quality of life" from what I'm doing.

**2Sox** · 08-08-2014, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

This has been a real good read. Thanks for all the posts guys. I for one am really glad that I'm not like a horny bunny anymore. I'm in my mid 50's and I can look at beautiful women and just enjoy the lovely creatures that they are without having to put a jacket over my crotch. I've also noticed that the emotional relationship with my wife has grown much deeper. I think we go through natural phases which I welcome. The thing about AAS and TRT is that it helps me squeeze every drop of "quality of life" from what I'm doing.

Amen.

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 08-08-2014, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Sadness, bitterness or just plain glad to be free of her. Having been through two, it's usually the latter. The sadness is always when children are involved as it changes the daily interactions with them.

So true ! Divorce is more painful than a death when children are involved ! The pain never stops and the children suffer the most !

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 08-08-2014, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

Amen.

I thought you said you were an atheist ? Who are you in praise of ?

I guess we all look at life different ? Possibly why so many opitions ? I am happy for now

I may want something different tomorrow ? That is what is so great about getting older !

**2Sox** · 08-08-2014, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper

I thought you said you were an atheist ? Who are you in praise of ?

I guess we all look at life different ? Possibly why so many opitions ? I am happy for now

I may want something different tomorrow ? That is what is so great about getting older !

Nope. Probably mistaking me for someone else. Never said I was an atheist. I was a science teacher, though.

By the way, some scientists are some of the the most deeply religious of people. It's because the more they know and the deeper they go into their scientific research and studies, the more they see how many questions remain unanswered. That's where they acquire a deep belief in the divine.

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 08-08-2014, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by 2sox

nope. Probably mistaking me for someone else. Never said i was an atheist. I was a science teacher, though.

By the way, some scientists are some of the the most deeply religious of people. It's because the more they know and the deeper they go into their scientific research and studies, the more they see how many questions remain unanswered. That's where they acquire a deep belief in the divine.

hugh , humble , appology to you !

**2Sox** · 08-08-2014, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper

hugh , humble , appology to you !

Everything's good.

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 08-10-2014, 12:47 AM

OP did you ever get complete BW and an ultra sensitive male Estrogen panel ?

DO you know you E-2 level and do you know the normal rnge for the lab you use ?

Are you going to post all o your BW ?

Are you still even reading this thread ?

OP do you see a Dr. or do you self medicate ?

Are you really seeking an answer or just going through E-2 Crash and feel like crap ?