A year+ of self prescribed TRT & Heavy Cycling

[< <Samson> >]

These are my numbers as of right now. Everything major seems to be in check. But, my LDL is on the rise. 3 years ago it was right over 140

What exactly can I do to drop the LDL? I haven't hit up my regular MD, since they aren't really jumpy on giving a shit up until something is really fvcked.


I have been running just test for the last 3 months @ 250mg e3d. And within the last 2 weeks switched to sust(which I am pretty sure is the reason for the semi low total test #'s), which I am running at the same dose & started on dRol @ 50mg Qd(only running it for 30 days).


The e2 numbers got ****ed because they drew into the wrong vile. It will be in about a week, since I had to go back in today

I'm starting to give blood as regularly as possible(or run self phlebotomy).


LIPID PANEL
CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL 198 125-200 mg/dL
HDL CHOLESTEROL 19 LOW > OR = 40 mg/dL
TRIGLYCERIDES 89 <150 mg/dL
LDL-CHOLESTEROL 161 HIGH <130 mg/dL (calc)


CHOL/HDLC RATIO 10.4 HIGH < OR = 5.0 (calc)
NON HDL CHOLESTEROL 179 HIGH mg/dL (calc)



CBC (INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT 6.1 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 5.32 4.20-5.80 Million/uL
HEMOGLOBIN 16.3 13.2-17.1 g/dL
HEMATOCRIT 50.3 HIGH 38.5-50.0 %
MCV 94.7 80.0-100.0 fL
MCH 30.7 27.0-33.0 pg
MCHC 32.4 32.0-36.0 g/dL
RDW 17.4 HIGH 11.0-15.0 %
PLATELET COUNT 271 140-400 Thousand/uL
MPV 9.3 7.5-11.5 fL
ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS 3465 1500-7800 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR 0-750 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE METAMYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE MYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE PROMYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE LYMPHOCYTES 1995 850-3900 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES 287 200-950 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE EOSINOPHILS 311 15-500 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE BASOPHILS 43 0-200 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE BLASTS DNR 0 cells/uL
ABSOLUTE NUCLEATED RBC DNR 0 cells/uL
NEUTROPHILS 56.8 %
BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR %
METAMYELOCYTES DNR %
MYELOCYTES DNR %
PROMYELOCYTES DNR %
LYMPHOCYTES 32.7 %
REACTIVE LYMPHOCYTES DNR 0-10 %
MONOCYTES 4.7 %


TESTOSTERONE ,TOTAL,MALES 1077 HIGH 241-827 ng/dL

Estrodial 25 pg/Ml

[kelkel]

Read this thread regarding cholesterol. You may pull some info from it that will help.

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...xperiment.html

[< <Samson> >]

Read this thread regarding cholesterol. You may pull some info from it that will help.

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...xperiment.html

Very impressive & promising

Thanks a lot for that write up

[kelkel]

Next time be sure to get that Advanced Particle Test if you can.

[< <Samson> >]

Next time be sure to get that Advanced Particle Test if you can.

The who?


Is it kinda like the blinker fluid in a car?

[kelkel]

VAP or NMR Lipo Profile. It's what breaks down the LDL particles and give you a much more in depth picture of your cholesterol.

[< <Samson> >]

VAP or NMR Lipo Profile. It's what breaks down the LDL particles and give you a much more in depth picture of your cholesterol.

Ahh

The straight line looking thing from your thread


Well, I got all of the supps you recommend in the thread. No reason not to, they are cheap as dirt & seem to be very effective.


I'll see how my next BW looks. I would hope better, since I will be laying of heavy gear for a bit also.

[lovbyts]

Were you still taking an AI when you got your cholesterol checked? Most AI will raise you LDL levels so they may not be as bad as you think. I would try to come off everything except trt for at least a few weeks before testing.

[kelkel]

Were you still taking an AI when you got your cholesterol checked? Most AI will raise you LDL levels so they may not be as bad as you think. I would try to come off everything except trt for at least a few weeks before testing.

Not quite as bad as you think. More rumor than fact actually. Take a look at this, Table 3, Lipid Profiles:

An overview of the pharmacology and pharmacokinetics of the newer generation aromatase inhibitors anastrozole, letrozole, and exemestane - Buzdar - 2002 - Cancer - Wiley Online Library

(I know, I spend too much time reading this crap)

[< <Samson> >]

Were you still taking an AI when you got your cholesterol checked? Most AI will raise you LDL levels so they may not be as bad as you think. I would try to come off everything except trt for at least a few weeks before testing.

Yes, last time I missed 2 days of my Ai my moobs began to itch.


Good to know - But, I know my cholesterol numbers are still too high

[Machdiesel]

Your on 500mg a week and in range? I assume self prescribed means UGL? IMO you need a new source. I know everyone is different. , but at 200mg I'm at 1066, and tnats even considered low for that dose .

[< <Samson> >]

Your on 500mg a week and in range? I assume self prescribed means UGL? IMO you need a new source

Yes, yes & no

I switched over 2 weeks ago and upped my dose. This is after 2 weeks of being on. . . . Kind of what I said at first for a sec until I did the time Vs. dose calculation

At full saturation, I say it should get me a little over 2k. Maybe 2,200 or so

[lovbyts]

Not quite as bad as you think. More rumor than fact actually. Take a look at this, Table 3, Lipid Profiles:

An overview of the pharmacology and pharmacokinetics of the newer generation aromatase inhibitors anastrozole, letrozole, and exemestane - Buzdar - 2002 - Cancer - Wiley Online Library

(I know, I spend too much time reading this crap)

That's good to hear. "Anastrozole treatment had no impact on plasma lipid levels, whereas both letrozole and exemestane had an unfavorable effect on plasma lipid levels"

You know the last time I had them checked on cycle I may have been taking liquidstane so that may explain it.

[Mr.BB]

My 2 cents, for what is worth...

You can easily reduce your LDL just making some adjustmentsin your diet.

Basically you need to reduce the saturated fat intake and increase the vegetables portion, specially green leaf raw veggies. Spinach is great to add to a protein smoothie.

This may sound a bit odd, but i have done myself with sucess. I can post blood work to prove it.

Unfortunnaly many people prefer taking meds to change anything in diet...

[lovbyts]

Unfortunately it's not always so easy for some of us. I have made HUGE changes to my diet over the years and it had little change on my cholesterol. I do like RX meds though, not takign them but I'm a hoarder. I have a nice supply built up for the next apocalypse. lol

[kelkel]

but I'm a hoarder. . lol

Same here. I fill my scripts whether I'm using them or not. Got a drawer full of dex, nolva, caber, test, doxy, etc....

[bullshark99]

ALWAYS fill your scripts weather needed or not.

[< <Samson> >]

Been working on my diet even more here lately, just damn it - do I hate vegetables, especially the good for you green ones.


Excellent - Not - Exemastane is the only Ai I have used since starting pinning 3 years ago :/


I just got a supply of Liquidex hella cheap & been thinking about changing over. So, there's another reason to do so.



Just got all of the random crap in from the other thread. Seems like it should def help


Been kicking my fiber intake as high as I can too, should be aight. Kinda surprised my BW was this good after being on tren for over 6 months out of the year.