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Thread: FDA adds abuse warning to rx testosterone

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    FDA adds abuse warning to rx testosterone

    What this means is now prescribers are more accountable and many will be less likely to prescribe. In some states the governing medical boards are not fond of age management and/or HRT and feel it is outside the conventional practice of medicine.

    U.S. FDA adds abuse warning to prescription testosterone | Reuters
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    There is such a bias towards Male endocrine disorders. Female patients can
    Literally get any combo of hormones they want, including T for gender reassignment. Yet a man has to suffer with low T and beg to have just a crappy Andro patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    There is such a bias towards Male endocrine disorders. Female patients can
    Literally get any combo of hormones they want, including T for gender reassignment. Yet a man has to suffer with low T and beg to have just a crappy Andro patch.
    1000% truth!
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    There has been a recent debate in Italy about endocrine disruptors toxicity and as for males the only claimed issue with having low test from these pollutants is reduced infertility. Not a single word was heard about the impact this has on male health and well-being, the matter is utterly non-existant here.

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    IDK, I think TRT is here to stay now, not matter how much the weak-suits want it gone. IMO the box warning will only serve to deter those docs with limited TRT knowledge which isn't a bad thing. It's usually these docs that get their male patients into trouble and end up giving TRT a bad name...
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    Come on Reuters, whatever happened to getting both sides of a story?

    So this means all that's going to happen is a label is going to be added, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    There is such a bias towards Male endocrine disorders. Female patients can
    Literally get any combo of hormones they want, including T for gender reassignment. Yet a man has to suffer with low T and beg to have just a crappy Andro patch.
    My endo (female) pissed me off so bad with her questions about exactly why
    I wanted TRT. Seriously she would have been cool if I would have just said "sexual difficulties". But I simply refused to use that excuse and have it in my chart. When I told her how much I wanted to enjoy the gym again as a 58 year old, she practically spit the words out "oh, you want it for bodybuilding purposes". Oh, to satisfy my wife, that's cool, but to workout and exercise and show progress as a 58 y.o. instead of just calling it quits and sitting in front of the t.v. that isn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by APIs View Post
    IDK, I think TRT is here to stay now, not matter how much the weak-suits want it gone. IMO the box warning will only serve to deter those docs with limited TRT knowledge which isn't a bad thing. It's usually these docs that get their male patients into trouble and end up giving TRT a bad name...
    I think it's here to stay. Too much money to be made. BUT, with that said, I'm very surprised that the pharmaceutical companies have not jacked up the prices significantly to take better advantage of this cash-cow. It's got to happen, they are ruthless with making a profit in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    My endo (female) pissed me off so bad with her questions about exactly why
    I wanted TRT. Seriously she would have been cool if I would have just said "sexual difficulties". But I simply refused to use that excuse and have it in my chart. When I told her how much I wanted to enjoy the gym again as a 58 year old, she practically spit the words out "oh, you want it for bodybuilding purposes". Oh, to satisfy my wife, that's cool, but to workout and exercise and show progress as a 58 y.o. instead of just calling it quits and sitting in front of the t.v. that isn't?
    Fuck her, I've been battling low T since my early 20's I have all the symptoms and test to back it up. Well before I dipped into self medication. I have suffered, flat out suffered. Yet it's brave and courageous for a women that wants to be a man to get T weekly AND for insurance to pay for it. But not me who's Y chromosome actually needs T to operate correctly.

    I mean I'm all for transgenders to be who they want or feel like they should be. So why is it that a man can't?
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    it's more "conventional" to prescribe neurotoxic amphetamines to 8 year olds with ADD, you goddamn barbarians.

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    Research by Public Citizen found that almost 25 percent of men prescribed testosterone did not previously have a blood test to determine if their level was low.

    This is bullshit.

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    Yeah that's a little hard to beleive^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesah1 View Post
    it's more "conventional" to prescribe neurotoxic amphetamines to 8 year olds with ADD, you goddamn barbarians.
    Ain't this the truth

    Way back when(10 years ago), I went to my PCP and had pull my total test & free test numbers. Total test came back under 350 - according to her I was just fine - hmmm


    Going by the age scale for total/available test I was 70 years old when I was 25.

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    I'm lucky I have a good trt doc. He knows his stuff, runs full blood panels and safely monitors everything, yet openly scoffs at media reports regarding trt and advises not to pay attention to it. I just saw him the other day and he was venting a bit that all his patients actually show improvements in general health and that blood work supports they are healthier on trt than before they started, yet he constantly has to reassure patients who read a story and call him worried about dropping dead of a heart attack all of a sudden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APIs View Post
    IDK, I think TRT is here to stay now, not matter how much the weak-suits want it gone. IMO the box warning will only serve to deter those docs with limited TRT knowledge which isn't a bad thing. It's usually these docs that get their male patients into trouble and end up giving TRT a bad name...
    Really agree with this. To many people think the title of "Doctor" assumes hormone knowledge. It does not. Imho, many of the doc's without explicit hormone knowledge tend to dole out gels and pellets as it's a safer (to them) alternative moreso than injections.


    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    My endo (female) pissed me off so bad with her questions about exactly why
    I wanted TRT. Seriously she would have been cool if I would have just said "sexual difficulties". But I simply refused to use that excuse and have it in my chart. When I told her how much I wanted to enjoy the gym again as a 58 year old, she practically spit the words out "oh, you want it for bodybuilding purposes". Oh, to satisfy my wife, that's cool, but to workout and exercise and show progress as a 58 y.o. instead of just calling it quits and sitting in front of the t.v. that isn't?

    Don't want to come off as "sexist" or anything similar but I've heard these type of complaints so many times in my years in this arena regarding female docs and male hormone replacement. I'd always encourage being treated for HRT related issues by a doc with similar anatomical qualities. Basically one who also possesses testicals.....
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    brilliant idea!!!! i've decided to collaborate with my wife.

    We plan on both going to our respective dr's and ask for gender re-assignment hormone therapy- and simply swap.
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