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    Subcutaneous vs. Intra-Muscular

    Does it matter if you inject Subcutaneous or Intra-Muscular?

    Is one way more beneficial than the other or are they about the same?

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    Results will be the same. SQ is meant for small doses otherwise lumps can develope in some guys from oil pooling.

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    sub Q with 0.5ml or less for the win.

    but like KelKel said...
    it don't matter , both work.

    I wouldn't do subQ with over 0.5ml or with UGL gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Results will be the same. SQ is meant for small doses otherwise lumps can develope in some guys from oil pooling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    sub Q with 0.5ml or less for the win.

    but like KelKel said...
    it don't matter , both work.

    I wouldn't do subQ with over 0.5ml or with UGL gear

    If I'm only doing a TRT amount I'll use a 27 ga .5" pin and inject delts or glutes. Doesn't matter if some is IM and some SQ as it all absorbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    If I'm only doing a TRT amount I'll use a 27 ga .5" pin and inject delts or glutes. Doesn't matter if some is IM and some SQ as it all absorbs.
    It doesn't effect the pharmokinetics since it's not technically "depot" in the muscle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    If I'm only doing a TRT amount I'll use a 27 ga .5" pin and inject delts or glutes. Doesn't matter if some is IM and some SQ as it all absorbs.
    Agree. I've tried both IM and SC of a blended T-cyp/T-prop compounded T. My standard IM protocol is E3D with 40-50 mg (0.2 to 0.25 mL) of an 180/20. My trial SC protocol (a couple times) was 0.07 to 0.08 mL (14-16 mg) daily. I did not notice any efficacy difference. I did notice substantial bruising with SC with all trials. I believe this may have to do with the small amount of T-prop blended into my compounded T. This is just a theory, but I believe T-prop is inappropriate for SC administration. I have yet to try SC with pure T-cyp. Perhaps if I'm motivated enough someday, I'll give it a try, but I am very satisfied with my standard I'm protocol, so my motivation is low.

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    Thanks for the info!!

    I've been doing SubQ in the stomach for quite a while. 29G 1/2in . I do have a couple little lumps here and there, maybe like 3 in total. They're not noticeable until you go to inject in one. I used to do the glutes, but being right hand dominant it's hard to rotate sides.

    Any thoughts on spot injections?
    I've seen it mentioned online about injecting your Test dose into your Bicep or Tricep. They say it won't make it bigger, but it will harden up the muscle. So it will look more solid all the time.

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    Just do delts. You can't miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    sub Q with 0.5ml or less for the win.

    but like KelKel said...
    it don't matter , both work.

    I wouldn't do subQ with over 0.5ml or with UGL gear
    Can you pin anything subcutaneous as long as it's under 0.5 ml? I know you can pin test subq, some trans males do it. But what of tren ?
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