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    Dr. John Crisler

    I don't know how many guys here follow him but he passed away today. I believe he was 61 years old. In short, he was a pioneer in the field of TRT and helped guide and educate thousands of practitioners and patients with modern, practical protocols. He will be greatly missed in this community.



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    I just saw this, pretty shocking. RIP Doc
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    Holy shit , damn he was a pretty bad ass doctor helping alot of us learn more on trt .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I don't know how many guys here follow him but he passed away today. I believe he was 61 years old. In short, he was a pioneer in the field of TRT and helped guide and educate thousands of practitioners and patients with modern, practical protocols. He will be greatly missed in this community.



    https://agemed.org/november-2018/fac...k-crisler-d-o/
    OMG! He's a legend and a hero in my eyes. Any idea of what happened to him? I'm really saddened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youthful55guy View Post
    OMG! He's a legend and a hero in my eyes. Any idea of what happened to him? I'm really saddened.
    Not yet. I've got a couple friends that were very close to him. As soon as I hear I'll relay it.
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    Fudge. There goes 75% of my knowledge resource.

    Well kel, looks like it's 100% on you now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Fudge. There goes 75% of my knowledge resource.

    Well kel, looks like it's 100% on you now.

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    Well, I hate to post this but word is it was a suicide. I can only hope this is incorrect.
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    Let us know if you hear anything more. I was expecting heart issues since he had a heart attack about 2 years ago. I did check his website forum (I used to post there a lot under the same screen name before joining this forum) and nobody there seems to know what happened to him either. Rest in peace Dr. John.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Well, I hate to post this but word is it was a suicide. I can only hope this is incorrect.
    Whaaa !?!

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    Damn...just ...damn.
    Pioneer in the field for sure. Opened my eyes to a lot of info regarding running an optimal TRT regimen.
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    RIP. May you find the peace you were looking for.

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    He hung himself according to his friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrolex View Post
    He hung himself according to his friends
    Just read that, very tragic. Of course TRT will be blamed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Just read that, very tragic. Of course TRT will be blamed...
    I dislike the fact that on the site it says he died due to his heart condition.

    I understand for the sake of the family , it's a better story for the sake of his reputation but facts shouldn't be ignored.

    Suicide is a very serious thing and it needs to be spoken about.

    We can't allow heart illness be the cause of this because they will just make testosterone the villain as usual when that was probably not the case at all.

    I feel it may encourage more people to look for help and speak more on the topic rather than playing if off as something else .

    Who knows what that man has endured in his life with the many stresses but I don't condone lying about how he died.
    Not only will that make the whole situation look bad but it will tarnish his great reputation because they lied.

    That's just my .02

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    FYI, I've read elsewhere that he's been dealing with legal problems from past changes of embezzlement and ID theft. Whether or not it's true, I have no way of knowing. The guy had a lot of challenges going on in his personal life and I feel for him. I'm sure there will be nay sayers that blame TRT, but that does not appear to have been connected in any way. I'd venture to say it's part of what kept him afloat in a very turbulent sea for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT View Post
    I dislike the fact that on the site it says he died due to his heart condition.

    I understand for the sake of the family , it's a better story for the sake of his reputation but facts shouldn't be ignored.

    Suicide is a very serious thing and it needs to be spoken about.

    We can't allow heart illness be the cause of this because they will just make testosterone the villain as usual when that was probably not the case at all.

    I feel it may encourage more people to look for help and speak more on the topic rather than playing if off as something else .

    Who knows what that man has endured in his life with the many stresses but I don't condone lying about how he died.
    Not only will that make the whole situation look bad but it will tarnish his great reputation because they lied.

    That's just my .02

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    Well spoken and very prudent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youthful55guy View Post
    FYI, I've read elsewhere that he's been dealing with legal problems from past changes of embezzlement and ID theft. Whether or not it's true, I have no way of knowing. The guy had a lot of challenges going on in his personal life and I feel for him. I'm sure there will be nay sayers that blame TRT, but that does not appear to have been connected in any way. I'd venture to say it's part of what kept him afloat in a very turbulent sea for so long.
    If he checked homself out because of felony accusations then he is a bitch.
    I woke up with worse cuts on my pinky and I dont got the doctor shit going for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    If he checked homself out because of felony accusations then he is a bitch.
    I woke up with worse cuts on my pinky and I dont got the doctor shit going for me.
    Unless he was without a doubt going to do alot of time and likely him being 61, rest if his life.

    I can see getting it over with on your own terms staring at 20 years it so

    Or the steroids depression demon was strong in this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Unless he was without a doubt going to do alot of time and likely him being 61, rest if his life.

    I can see getting it over with on your own terms staring at 20 years it so

    Or the steroids depression demon was strong in this one
    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I don't know how many guys here follow him but he passed away today. I believe he was 61 years old. In short, he was a pioneer in the field of TRT and helped guide and educate thousands of practitioners and patients with modern, practical protocols. He will be greatly missed in this community.



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    I knew Dr. John for MANY years! Very sorry to of heard this, I was floored by the news. Great loss of a friend and a member of our community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Or the steroids depression demon was strong in this one
    I had long time abuse of androgens, heavy compounds and mega doses and along with that, non-stop recreational drug abuse. I've been with severe depression at times in my life but I've never had strong suicidal thoughts, maybe at certain moments but far from committing it.

    I think the issue of suicide is something much more complex regardless of drugs/hormones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by assguy22 View Post
    I had long time abuse of androgens, heavy compounds and mega doses and along with that, non-stop recreational drug abuse. I've been with severe depression at times in my life but I've never had strong suicidal thoughts, maybe at certain moments but far from committing it.

    I think the issue of suicide is something much more complex regardless of drugs/hormones.
    Hormones can be the tipping point.

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    I was shocked and saddened to hear about this. He certainly seemed to be one of those guys that went out of his way to help people.

    I've always wondered about exogenous testosterone and alterations of dopamine signalling, and whether there was any study that looked at suicide rates in people that use T. Has anyone seen such a study?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    I was shocked and saddened to hear about this. He certainly seemed to be one of those guys that went out of his way to help people.

    I've always wondered about exogenous testosterone and alterations of dopamine signalling, and whether there was any study that looked at suicide rates in people that use T. Has anyone seen such a study?
    Only thing I’ve seen is the effects of hypogonadial and clinically low T on depression. TRT seems to help alleviate some of the symptoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thisAngelBites View Post
    I was shocked and saddened to hear about this. He certainly seemed to be one of those guys that went out of his way to help people.

    I've always wondered about exogenous testosterone and alterations of dopamine signalling, and whether there was any study that looked at suicide rates in people that use T. Has anyone seen such a study?

    Was just talking about you and here you are! Great to see you back! Stick around dammit!
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