Adding deca to TRT protocol

[MikeyMoo]

I've been on a TRT protocol for around 4 months now and all is well. Last week, after reading a thread on here relating to the therapeutic benefits of low-dose Deca , I decided to stack it with my test e.

Today was my 3rd pin - I'm going into the belly fat - and I'm feeling little balls underneath the skin at the injection site. No pain or discomfort however this hasn't happened on the test only so thought it best to check. Is this purely the Deca and should I change to IM injections?

All advice and personal experience greatly appreciated!

Cheers,
M

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I would not inject any UGL subQ.
Is your deca prescribed or is it UGL.

Please be advised that the deca can greatly skew your testosterone reading.
I would not take any deca if you have bloodwork coming up in a month or two.

[MikeyMoo]

It's UGL. I switched from IM to subq for my test pins after to chatting to a few guys on here. Had no problems with that at all.

Only planning on running the deca for 8 weeks so best to return to glute injections?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

It's UGL. I switched from IM to subq for my test pins after to chatting to a few guys on here. Had no problems with that at all.

Only planning on running the deca for 8 weeks so best to return to glute injections?

I wouldn't pin any UGL subQ.

I personally feel that with the possible impurities that IM is safer for UGL. (I am no doctor by any means.)

So if Deca sub Q is giving you lumps then go back to IM.

[kelkel]

8 weeks is really a waste of time, imho.

[itszander]

Please be advised that the deca can greatly skew your testosterone reading.
I would not take any deca if you have bloodwork coming up in a month or two.

in what direction does it skew?

[almostgone]

in what direction does it skew?

It can skew your T levels higher if the lab order is for the ECLIA test, because there are several interference substances for ECLIA test. It isn't as discriminating as the LC-MSMS panel.

[Windex]

75-150mg per week is a great dose but like kelkel said 8 weeks is pointless. You would incorporate it year round just like Testosterone and not come off.

[itszander]

It can skew your T levels higher if the lab order is for the ECLIA test, because there are several interference substances for ECLIA test. It isn't as discriminating as the LC-MSMS panel.

Thank you

[Gallowmere]

75-150mg per week is a great dose but like kelkel said 8 weeks is pointless. You would incorporate it year round just like Testosterone and not come off.

Pretty much.
I’ve been running 100/week with my 100/week test for about a year and two months now. The biggest things that I have noticed are A: reduced joint fuckery, and B: (the big one for me) notable increases in the speed at which work induced injuries heal.
I work in an asphalt lab, so second degree burns on the forearms and backs of hands are a daily occurrence. The time it takes for said burns to heal has been cut by close to 65%, and the scarring from them has been notably reduced.

[MikeyMoo]

75-150mg per week is a great dose but like kelkel said 8 weeks is pointless. You would incorporate it year round just like Testosterone and not come off.

Doing it all year round means 104 IM injections - will my glutes not end up like a pin cushion?

[Gallowmere]

Doing it all year round means 104 IM injections - will my glutes not end up like a pin cushion?

That’s why you use different sites.
I have 14 different muscles that I use and rotate around them, so even when on daily injection cycles, it’s two weeks between pins in each.

ETA:
Muscles used: front delts, side delts, pectorals, inner biceps, two sites on each thigh (upper and mid), and ventroglutes (hip area).

So yeah, 14 sites, and I’ve never stuck the first pin in my glutes.

[MikeyMoo]

That’s why you use different sites.
I have 14 different muscles that I use and rotate around them, so even when on daily injection cycles, it’s two weeks between pins in each.

ETA:
Muscles used: front delts, side delts, pectorals, inner biceps, two sites on each thigh (upper and mid), and ventroglutes (hip area).

So yeah, 14 sites, and I’ve never stuck the first pin in my glutes.

Thanks mate. Currently using 23G, 1 1/4 inch needles for glutes - are they good for every site?

[beanpo1e]

Pretty much.
I’ve been running 100/week with my 100/week test for about a year and two months now. The biggest things that I have noticed are A: reduced joint fuckery, and B: (the big one for me) notable increases in the speed at which work induced injuries heal.
I work in an asphalt lab, so second degree burns on the forearms and backs of hands are a daily occurrence. The time it takes for said burns to heal has been cut by close to 65%, and the scarring from them has been notably reduced.

How have your lipids, blood pressure, and overall health been on this combo?

[Gallowmere]

Thanks mate. Currently using 23G, 1 1/4 inch needles for glutes - are they good for every site?

I use 25g 1” for everything, but I also don’t bury the whole pin when it’s not necessary (which it almost never is).
23 is larger than I’d prefer, but should be fine.

[Gallowmere]

How have your lipids, blood pressure, and overall health been on this combo?

All have been perfectly acceptable. I’m actually going to be dialing up the test to 150, and the nandrolone down to 75 when my current cycle completes. Mostly curious to see the overall effects on my E2 levels. I’m barely low-normal on the 100/week, and I have a feeling that increasing estradiol is contributing to how much better I feel on cycles.

[MikeyMoo]

**UPDATE**

I'm still running my TRT protocol of test e + deca . All going well, no problems to report.

Considering introducing Winstrol to the mix and wondered if this is wise given I'm not blasting. Does anyone have 2 cents on this?

Much love,
M