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    Severe bruising, can I dilute test 400?

    I have a couple of other posts with my lab results and clarifying some next steps. I had done a bulk cycle a few years back and I had lumps in my butt injection sites and tenderness but nothing too bad. I got some test 400 for this trt and in my other post guys are saying 400 has bite, like 100 proof whiskey has bite. Well I feel like I'm injecting properly, on the outer corner of my glute/butt but in addition to some lumping, which I'm not too concerned about I'm getting severe bruising. And its lasting for nearly a week at a time. I'm doing about.30 of a ml at a time, preferably twice a week but I can't go on bruising like this twice a week for the foreseeable. Can I dilute this or is there something better I can be doing? I've tried ice and massaging but this is getting out of hand. Time to ask for opinions.

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    How sure are you about your technique? Stabbing or darting stands a better chance at bruising than a slow push and injection.

    Do you have this reaction in the same spot with other compounds? In different spots with the same compound? Are you rotating sites or ALWAYS pinning glutes?

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    I'm only using this product right now. Switching between left and right side glute. I might be going a little slow in the initial stab. Giving A slight squish of the skin and releasing, aspirating, slow injection. Good Massage after. But always glutes. Kinda nervous to do any other spot. Both sides of my ass are killing me right now. Lol

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    Why would you use T400 for TRT? But, yes you can dilute it. I would suggest using filtered grapeseed oil and shoot for at least 1% BA content. Use a .2 micron syringe filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggredd2069 View Post
    I'm only using this product right now. Switching between left and right side glute. I might be going a little slow in the initial stab. Giving A slight squish of the skin and releasing, aspirating, slow injection. Good Massage after. But always glutes. Kinda nervous to do any other spot. Both sides of my ass are killing me right now. Lol
    Nervousness is understandable.

    When injecting, don't think 'stab'. Think 'place and press'. That is, lightly place the needle (fresh one, right?) against your skin and press down on the barrel until the needle slowly starts to sink in. Continue that pressure to your chosen depth, then inject slowly. Remove the needle, pulling straight out, recap and drop in your sharps container.

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    The 400 is my bad but I've got a bunch. Like I said, feel like I'm pinning properly but these lump bruises are lasting like a week at a time. And they hurt. Is diluting the right choice for now? Or something I can be doing different?

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    Diluting should help somewhat, but on the other hand you may be allergic to one of the solvents. Only eat is to try it and find out or start from scratch with a standard concentration.

    High concentration oils can cause lumps.
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    You can, cut it with GSO


    But, the t400 I have been using for a while leaves no PiP at all really


    I use to cut all the stuff I used to get with EO - that shit stings

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    Maybe I'll just keep going to lower doses until I find the right amount. My first couple I accidentally overdid it and paid the price. The last few have been around the.3 to.33ml. Think I'll try .25 next and.20 after that to see what happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggredd2069 View Post
    Maybe I'll just keep going to lower doses until I find the right amount. My first couple I accidentally overdid it and paid the price. The last few have been around the.3 to.33ml. Think I'll try .25 next and.20 after that to see what happens
    You may find that the issue is the concentration per ml of carrier oil and injecting a lesser amount still hurts. If so, lower the concentration with filtered grapeseed oil that has a 1% BA content.

    Either way, good luck.

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    Ok guys, you've been big help. I did do some research and people have been having good luck with diluting with grape seed oil. I bought a vial to test. I've seen different recommendations of 1:1 and 2:1. Any recommendations here on how to cut it?

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    Cut the concentration by half. For example, if you have 10ml of 400mg/ml, add 10ml of filtered grapeseed oil oil that has 1% BA content. That should put you in the neighborhood of 200mg/ml.

    Edit: If you wanted to, you could make up a smaller amount and see how it feels. So, add, 5ml of grapeseed oil containing BA to 5ml of your T400.
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    Follow up. I ordered grape seed oil and did my first injection 2 days ago with the mix. Sweet relief, I don't have the issues now. Have a small bump but not worried about it. Before I was getting super painful large lumps that would last a week at a time. I would've had pain by now prior. I am using separate tips to draw and inject, doing the test first and then adding the gso separately and heating it up while mixing within the syringe. But Thanks guys. Happy to get back on track

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    You really need to make up a solution of GSO with 1% BA and run it through a .2 micron syringe filter into a sterile, presealed vial.

    Then draw up your GSO and your T400 (hopefully it was properly brewed) with your drawing needle, pull back on the plunger just a tad, switch to your injection needle, and pin.
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    Try injecting in your thigh. Much easier and you can actually see what your doing. Try a different brand of Test.
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