2007-08 HGH Cycle 10iu's

[lovbyts]

Bro you are the one that wrote 2.5ius a day of cjc when cjc is measured in mcg not ius
.....even thunderin corected you. and just so you know i new that. i have been on it for 2 months now
"CJC-1295 dosage is measured only in micrograms. The iu volume would depend on how much NaCl solution/BAC water you use to reconstitute it."(By thunderin)

Once again Good job with yet ANOTHER double post/asking the same questing 2x in a row and yo asked me if it was IU or mcg and my post clearly states mcg even though your copy and paste of thunderin's question is technically corect, it is dependent on my mix.

[OH REALLY]

Once again Good job with yet ANOTHER double post/asking the same questing X in a row and yo asked me if it was IU or mcg and my post clearly states mcg even though your copy and paste of thunderin's question is technically corect, it is dependent on my mix.

Bro again i dont feel like battling with you but the question i had was did you mean to wright mcg or was what you wroth (IU) correct to me it looked like a typeO and you should read my last post again if you think it was a Question to make things easier for you i will make sure i end all my questions with a question mark this is what it will look like???so we have no confusion this is a question mark ???(??????)???? look for it before you answer anything I'm just trying to help if i new you id hug you

[thunderin]

Finally, feeling good again, and I am back training for a couple of shows next year.

Have to take my offseason weight up to at least 115kg-120kg in order to come in at a ripped 95-100kg.

I will post some pics of my show later this week.

I will refrain from posting my cycle dosages from now on since I simply realize it is a very competitive world.

After I post my pics I will be ending this log, but I want to say it has been a nice year and a half.

Thanks to everyone who has commented and read.

Thunderin

[OH REALLY]

where are those pics

[OH REALLY]

where are those pics

bump

[Ironman5151]

looked like he took them all down..that sucks...would have been a great thread if the pics were up..good information ayways...

[OH REALLY]

Maybe he got a virus...

[Swiftlet]

Hi Thunderin,
I'm from Malaysia, I very interested with your cycle detail.
I also wishing to see how you body look like, did you ever joined and contest before?
Maybe you can email me directly if you dont mind
Your help are greatly appreciated, thank you...

[Darksid3]

Have all the pictures been removed or am I not allowed to see them yet or something?

[thunderin]

Yes, all the photos were removed. Simply too much going on to take any risks at all. Apologies.

[thunderin]

***Warning, I most strongly advise against not doing the following!**** I have been transitioning back into an off season bulking cycle and my weight is back up to 97kg from my contest weight of 86kg with the target of 115kg in my sights. I had been running anadrol for 3 weeks amongst other things when I went to donate blood. Damn, 17-AA had my ALT level at 51 which is over the 40 limit for donation. Had mild headaches, red face and my BP was already 143/88. What to do? After much foreboding, I unpacked an 18 gauge syringe, got the 350mL container from the kitchen along with a sterile glove, rubber tubing and alcohol. Everything as sterile as possible. Ok, by now I am thinking shite, this is going to sting, but I am not willing to risk high BP....the silent killer. Anyway, I slid the needle into the whiteboard marker sized vein right below my bicep slowly. Wow, it was like a geyser. And no pain at all. I simply let it drain into the cup until I had 350mL out and then drained another 150mL. You wouldn't believe how much better I feel, and I had just donated 500mL 30 days ago. Yes, maybe I stepped over the line this time but, I simply improvised the best I could and erred on the side of practicality.

[ironaddict69]

You're a ****ing man...

[Zino]

You're a ****ing man...

Agreed

Altough I wish I could have seen those progress pics...

[oc pitbull]

what a beast

[KZRSOIZE]

Just curious, why didnt you go ahead and donate some more blood. I understand your alt levels were high, but wouldnt the blood bank test and say nope alt levels way to high...and dumped your blood in the haz waste bucket. Are you taking anything for the hbp, dude your nuts, 18gauged yourself in the arm....ouch....well i hope your feeling better....

[thunderin]

Just curious, why didnt you go ahead and donate some more blood. I understand your alt levels were high, but wouldnt the blood bank test and say nope alt levels way to high...and dumped your blood in the haz waste bucket. Are you taking anything for the hbp, dude your nuts, 18gauged yourself in the arm....ouch....well i hope your feeling better....

Sorry for the late reply. They would absolutely not take my blood. They test it with a finger prick. I do not take high blood pressure meds, I simply drain 550mL of my blood every 2-3 weeks(phlebotomy is the proper name). Honestly, it doesn't hurt. It can make a mess though.

[thunderin]

Good to be back. I took a break in GH for 3 months and had switched back to CJC-1295. But, I hate the rush that it gives you...red face, pulsing head, accelerated heart rate, etc. So, I am back on 10iu's of GH ed. My wife wants another baby, and so I started my PCT a week ago by coming off of test prop. This is the first break in AAS usage I have had in a very long time. Since I am having issues with the formatting on this website, I have attached my PCT. Though different than other PCT's, it is backed up by documented medical research (see the education or PCT forum for my post). Thanks

[thunderin]

I am into my 4th week of the above PCT after coming off of test prop on the tail end of an almost continuous 3 years of heavy AAS use. I used test prop for the last 3 months of my cycle so as there would be no down time waiting for long esters to clear my system. My wife wants another baby, and I will oblige. My bodyweight has dropped to 90kg at the end of my cycle but it has increased to 98kg since i started my PCT. I suppose that the the twice daily injects of 10iu's of GH, 20iu's of Novalog and 150mcg of T4 are working BTW, I inject 5iu's GH and 10iu's slin twice daily at the same time. Eating like a horse. I go for my 2nd blood test next week, and I am already getting strong erections at night, looking at porn or if the road is too bumpy. The day before yesterday was the first time in a long time that I did not use viagra as was able to perform well. For me, that means a lot

[KZRSOIZE]

welcome back thunderin, im always looking forward to your valuable posts....good luck with the family addition

[PT]

I am into my 4th week of the above PCT after coming off of test prop on the tail end of an almost continuous 3 years of heavy AAS use. I used test prop for the last 3 months of my cycle so as there would be no down time waiting for long esters to clear my system. My wife wants another baby, and I will oblige. My bodyweight has dropped to 90kg at the end of my cycle but it has increased to 98kg since i started my PCT. I suppose that the the twice daily injects of 10iu's of GH, 20iu's of Novalog and 150mcg of T4 are working BTW, I inject 5iu's GH and 10iu's slin twice daily at the same time. Eating like a horse. I go for my 2nd blood test next week, and I am already getting strong erections at night, looking at porn or if the road is too bumpy. The day before yesterday was the first time in a long time that I did not use viagra as was able to perform well. For me, that means a lot

great info bro. good luck on making the baby and please keep us informed as to your results and bloodwork

[thunderin]

2 1/2 months after I started my PCT my free test levels are back up to 500ng/dL (499.63). They were as low as 81ng/dL a couple 3 weeks after I started PCT. This is great news considering I was on AAS almost non-stop since January 2004 with only a total of 6 months off during that time, and my cycle was, at times, a very heavy one. Normal range is 350 - 890 for my age group over 40. My weight is still 99kg (218lbs) Yes, I did not lose any weight during PCT at all. In fact, I gained almost 9kg (19.8lbs). I used the above prescribed PCT along with 10iu's of GH ed with 10-20iu's of novalog ed and 150mcg of T4 ed. I really believe that when I start my next AAS cycle later this year, my weight will go over 115kg (253lbs). Getting off that stagnant cycle will take me to the next level. I wonder what the highest weight of no more than 12% bodyfat is that I can maintain without AAS and using only GH and slin? Bottom line is there is no one PCT fits all. I would not be where I am today if I had followed normal PCT protocol. PCT should be tailored for each individuals needs depending on length of cycle, AAS dosage, type of AAS ester, cycling history and age.

[thunderin]

Funny thing, Since I inject subq into my abs, there has been no increase of fat deposits in the front. However, the sides of my waist have increased a bit. A couple of thins for sure. I really love being on cycle, and I think about when I will start again every single day. I also quit smoking 2 1/2 months ago, and I think about that every day too. Really sucks but no more cigarettes and just keep staring at my gear until after my wife is pregnant.

[Flex-Appeal]

Kids are great, I wish you luck

[bigbody1!!]

Intresting. I was always told to never take generic HGH as the equipment to create the chemical is so expensive that if they got the money to make it they c an give it a brand name.

[thunderin]

I have used both generic and pharmaceutical grade GH extensively, but I am using pharmaceutical grade now. It is stronger than generic.

[thunderin]

My wife decided to wait until next year for us to have a baby and to finish her master's degree. I am perfectly fine with that as well. It has been 3 months since I finished my last cycle, and believe it or not, my blood work was near normal. So, I decided to celebrate with my good friends anadrol , test prop and tren ace. I am starting this cycle at 100kg, and with the GH 10iu's ed, Novalog 20iu's ed, test prop 250mg ed, tren ace 150mg ed and anadrol 100mg ed. If I eat like a horse, I will gain a minimum of 15kg within the next 6 weeks and should reach 120kg before reaching a plateau. Taking time off allows you to consolidate your gains when PCT is done properly, and I did not lose a pound. I gained weight in PCT. I may up my slin dosage.

[thunderin]

Five days into my cycle, my doctor wanted to run a thoracic CT scan on my lungs to be sure I am completely healthy since I stopped smoking 3 1/2 months ago (17 years of smoking a pack a day). I was terrified for sure. The results for my lungs came back fine, but one slide showed a calcification on my coronary artery. Terrified again. Both of my grandfathers died very young from heart attacks, and both of my parents have issues with cardiovascular disease. They did an angiogram on me with ultrasound by running a near one meter long catheter to my coronary artery through my radial artery near my wrist. Not a pleasant experience, but necessary to know. The doctor finished. Removed the catheter and said, "It is a very mild calcification and the blockage is less than 10%." I am not religious, but in that moment I thanked God for sparing me from a much worse fate. The doctor could not find a reason why I have any blockage at all since my diet is very clean and my cardio and lifting are excellent. I have been in this game for over 28 years now, and it did not make sense. My ECG and stress tests were perfect. Then, he had me fast for 12 hours and ran a cholesterol test. My LDL was low, but my HDL was almost non-existant. So, they put me on a statin called Crestor and Niastin to boost my HDL. They said it is genetic. Over 40 years old, and only a 10% blockage. I am blessed. Please have a thorough heart check at least once per year. It could very well save your life.

[thunderin]

Glad to see that Merc is back on the board. I want everyone to know that he was 100% correct by saying that esters do change how a hormone reacts with your body and not just the length of release. Case in point: testosterone suspension . Twice daily injects of test suspension of 50mg each, bloat me more than every other day injections of test prop at 300mg each. Fluctuations in hormone levels occur with both, and the volume of testosterone injected with the test prop is higher even when the prop ester is cleaved off. Moot point. Also, my libido and aggression are higher with test suspension than test prop. For me, it is very clear that testosterone is not testosterone regardless of the ester attached to it. Each estered or non-estered presentation are unique and varied. Thanks Merc.

[thunderin]

As the title of this thread is for 2007-2008, I thought it only fitting to bring it to its full fruition with an all out, balls to the wall, freakish bulker. Thus, I started running the heaviest cycle in my life 8 days ago. Why? I really want to break 260lbs (118kg), and if I don't do it now, I probably will never do it.

I have run virtually every combination of AAS, even most all of the exotics, always thinking I would happen on to some magic combination.

What is the magic combination? It is large amounts of food, testosterone , anadrol , insulin , tren , deca and insulin combined with heavy training and proper rest.

I reached my natural potential about 10 years ago, and my AAS potential on between 1.5 and 2 grams of total AAS a few years ago.

I will not mention my dosages unless asked, but I took them directly from BDTR, my AR hero.

Wish me luck, and 260lbs, here I come!

[lovbyts]

Sorry for the late reply. They would absolutely not take my blood. They test it with a finger prick. I do not take high blood pressure meds, I simply drain 550mL of my blood every 2-3 weeks(phlebotomy is the proper name). Honestly, it doesn't hurt. It can make a mess though.

Phlebotomy
Actually there are places that will do it. I have a prescription from my longevity doc and going to get it done today due to elivated iron in the blood and I have not donated since I was in my mid 20s due to getting Hepatitis B from donating the first time...

They say it's a good practice to do especially if you are over 40 but I dont know about ever 3 weeks.....maybe every 4-6 months.

[thunderin]

Phlebotomy
Actually there are places that will do it. I have a prescription from my longevity doc and going to get it done today due to elivated iron in the blood and I have not donated since I was in my mid 20s due to getting Hepatitis B from donating the first time...

They say it's a good practice to do especially if you are over 40 but I dont know about ever 3 weeks.....maybe every 4-6 months.

Sorry to hear about you getting Hep B from donating blood. I donate so frequently because I am taking a lot of gear, and I don't let my RBC count go over 5.5. Loads of gear will cause your body to produce very high amounts of red blood cells.

[thunderin]

Ok, I give. Here is my current cycle, but be warned: I strongly advise against anyone else following it.

How long will it last? It wil last until I reach at least 260lbs+, which should not be long. My weight was 233lbs. today.

These are weekly totals of every day injects:

3.5 grams testosterone enanthate (500mg ed)
1.2 grams deca -durabolin (180mg ed)
875 mg trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (125mg ed)
200 mg anadrol each day for 9 weeks
14iu's GH each day (half am - half pm)
30iu's humalog each day (half am - half pm)

That works out to about 4mL of oil injects each day. I hit 3 different spots on each glute and quad for a total of 12 different sites. I rotate so I only hit each spot one time every six days with a max of 2mL in each site.

I eat until I am almost uncomfortably full 6 times each day. Distended abs? Of course. Why? Because I eat like a horse. BF % < 12%

Sore nips? A bit, but I had gyno when I was 13 years old, 3 years before I ever took AAS. No biggie.

Full strict reps on the Smith machine today with 315lbs doing standing shoulder presses for 3 sets of 6. I am feeling really good.

Favorite video: Dorian Yates - Blood and Guts

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[sdc]

That's insane. I wish you luck. You must be huge, but at those doses you can only play this game for so long

[icepick27]

iam 27 years old weight 210lbs bf 10% ,maybe lower need to update it ,i been on aas for a year not straight,but it was untill i started hgh ,when every thing started comming together ,i was always big bulky and strong .when i started the growth in a little over 2 weeks my body fat dropped dramaticly i went from ,no abs and a little flab to having vains on my stomach .i just started out with 5 ius once a day and i was on a low dose of test 250mg, lately i bumped it uo to 600mg of t 400 and i got bigger but i think its puttting unwanted water weight on me i dont look as tight ,should i lower it back down to 250mgs or stop it all together ?and also i was thinking about picking up anavar this week what do u think does this wrok well with hgh ?thanks

[bjpennnn]

Ok, I give. Here is my current cycle, but be warned: I strongly advise against anyone else following it.

How long will it last? It wil last until I reach at least 260lbs+, which should not be long. My weight was 233lbs. today.

These are weekly totals of every day injects:

3.5 grams testosterone enanthate (500mg ed)
1.2 grams deca -durabolin (180mg ed)
875 mg trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (125mg ed)
200 mg anadrol each day for 9 weeks
14iu's GH each day (half am - half pm)
30iu's humalog each day (half am - half pm)

That works out to about 4mL of oil injects each day. I hit 3 different spots on each glute and quad for a total of 12 different sites. I rotate so I only hit each spot one time every six days with a max of 2mL in each site.

I eat until I am almost uncomfortably full 6 times each day. Distended abs? Of course. Why? Because I eat like a horse. BF % < 12%

Sore nips? A bit, but I had gyno when I was 13 years old, 3 years before I ever took AAS. No biggie.

Full strict reps on the Smith machine today with 315lbs doing standing shoulder presses for 3 sets of 6. I am feeling really good.

Favorite video: Dorian Yates - Blood and Guts

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**** i wish i cold hit something like that ha.

[Alphatier]

Ok, I give. Here is my current cycle, but be warned: I strongly advise against anyone else following it.

How long will it last? It wil last until I reach at least 260lbs+, which should not be long. My weight was 233lbs. today.

These are weekly totals of every day injects:

3.5 grams testosterone enanthate (500mg ed)
1.2 grams deca -durabolin (180mg ed)
875 mg trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (125mg ed)
200 mg anadrol each day for 9 weeks
14iu's GH each day (half am - half pm)
30iu's humalog each day (half am - half pm)

That works out to about 4mL of oil injects each day. I hit 3 different spots on each glute and quad for a total of 12 different sites. I rotate so I only hit each spot one time every six days with a max of 2mL in each site.

I eat until I am almost uncomfortably full 6 times each day. Distended abs? Of course. Why? Because I eat like a horse. BF % < 12%

Sore nips? A bit, but I had gyno when I was 13 years old, 3 years before I ever took AAS. No biggie.

Full strict reps on the Smith machine today with 315lbs doing standing shoulder presses for 3 sets of 6. I am feeling really good.

Favorite video: Dorian Yates - Blood and Guts

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[thunderin]

iam 27 years old weight 210lbs bf 10% ,maybe lower need to update it ,i been on aas for a year not straight,but it was untill i started hgh ,when every thing started comming together ,i was always big bulky and strong .when i started the growth in a little over 2 weeks my body fat dropped dramaticly i went from ,no abs and a little flab to having vains on my stomach .i just started out with 5 ius once a day and i was on a low dose of test 250mg, lately i bumped it uo to 600mg of t 400 and i got bigger but i think its puttting unwanted water weight on me i dont look as tight ,should i lower it back down to 250mgs or stop it all together ?and also i was thinking about picking up anavar this week what do u think does this wrok well with hgh ?thanks

It all depends on your goals. Water retention is very common with GH.

That's insane. I wish you luck. You must be huge, but at those doses you can only play this game for so long

Thanks. Here is a quote from Bill Roberts. "A particularly interesting property of testosterone is its low toxicity, exclusive of the above-mentioned side effects. Doses of two grams or four grams per week are hardly unknown in bodybuilding, and are not particularly hard on the liver. No one seems to want to take doses of any other single steroid at comparably-effective doses, and it seems that if one tried, they might be more toxic. E.g., the hepatotoxicity of Winstrol Depot resulting from its 17a -methyl group is not severe at doses of say 350 mg/week, but might well be problematic at a dose of two grams per week – though that is speculation, since no one I have heard of uses such doses of Winstrol . Thus, at the higher dosage regimes testosterone appears to have an advantage in terms of toxicity vs. effectiveness over many of the synthetics. These doses, however, are in the pro bodybuilder range. In the dosage range more appropriate for most individuals, the reverse is often the case."

[bjpennnn]

you need to get some pics up after this cycle!

[Seattle Junk]

Ok, I give. Here is my current cycle, but be warned: I strongly advise against anyone else following it.

How long will it last? It wil last until I reach at least 260lbs+, which should not be long. My weight was 233lbs. today.

These are weekly totals of every day injects:

3.5 grams testosterone enanthate (500mg ed)
1.2 grams deca -durabolin (180mg ed)
875 mg trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (125mg ed)
200 mg anadrol each day for 9 weeks
14iu's GH each day (half am - half pm)
30iu's humalog each day (half am - half pm)

That works out to about 4mL of oil injects each day. I hit 3 different spots on each glute and quad for a total of 12 different sites. I rotate so I only hit each spot one time every six days with a max of 2mL in each site.

I eat until I am almost uncomfortably full 6 times each day. Distended abs? Of course. Why? Because I eat like a horse. BF % < 12%

Sore nips? A bit, but I had gyno when I was 13 years old, 3 years before I ever took AAS. No biggie.

Full strict reps on the Smith machine today with 315lbs doing standing shoulder presses for 3 sets of 6. I am feeling really good.

Favorite video: Dorian Yates - Blood and Guts

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I always like to read about these super sized cycles and see what transpires. I hope you are drinking a load of water and taking liver protection supps? That 4 tabs of A-50 per day makes my liver hurt after just reading it. I think I am having back pumps right now trying to clear the c-17 that I just absorbed after reading this? How solid is your diet? You will hit 260 no problem. But what kind of quality, I dunno?

Your receptors cannot absorb 3.5 grams of test per week. I would say 1.5 grams would be the max but that is too much IMO. So that just means more side effects.

Hey, good luck to you bro. I want to follow your progress. You're an animal!

[thunderin]

I always like to read about these super sized cycles and see what transpires. I hope you are drinking a load of water and taking liver protection supps? That 4 tabs of A-50 per day makes my liver hurt after just reading it. I think I am having back pumps right now trying to clear the c-17 that I just absorbed after reading this? How solid is your diet? You will hit 260 no problem. But what kind of quality, I dunno?

Your receptors cannot absorb 3.5 grams of test per week. I would say 1.5 grams would be the max but that is too much IMO. So that just means more side effects.

Hey, good luck to you bro. I want to follow your progress. You're an animal!

Thanks, my diet is very solid as I am running quite a bit of Humalog, and I am watching my liver values closely. I just stay stuffed most of the time.

I am starting to get real nice pumps and strength gains, and I am very satisfied with my cycle thus far.