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    Was playing around with some vardenafil, and let me tell you it's stronger than viagra (15 minute onset, can take on a full stomach, lasts at least 6 hours and most importantly...you could drive a nail with it from being like a piece of iron) Great stuff and fun.

    Insulin is a strange drug. Every day it's different. Sometimes makes me sleepy after I pig out and other times not. I can even sleep on it provided I am very full as I take it subq which gives me a more even blood level. No spikes. All in all, I think I prefer 15iu ed to 20.

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    Weight 99kg (218lbs)

    Both strength and size are coming on quickly. I cannot say enough about what a wonderful mass drug insulin is if used in conjuction with a strong AAS bulking cycle with GH. 20iu's today all subcutaneous. I will never do intramuscular shots of insulin ever again as the hypoglycemia is too hard to control. Insulin can be a wicked double-edged sword if taken intramuscularly with a very rapid onset and peak, and that is for Humulin R. Humalog, I imagine, could be even more difficult to control.

    Abs are still visible as are striations in my shoulders and quads. Will up my test dosage somewhat to 500mg ed. 2 mL ed is a lot easier to take than 10+ mL once a week for sure. The deca is still at 800mg once a week (2mL @ 400mg each)

    I am eating 7 times per day now and going through a lot of fruit juice.

    My Humapen is so convenient. I can even dose myself in a taxi. If anyone looks at me or says anything, I tell them I am diabetic. They never ask any other questions.

    *Warning: This cycle should not be imitated by others*
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    insulin might be the only thing I wont touch. im glad your gettin strong on it tho, makes me think twice.

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    Pic from today at 99kg (218lbs) and after using melanotan 2. I have lost some definition, but bulking comes with that price.

    I still look like crap but getting there.
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    Here are 2 more relaxed (not flexing) photos from tonight. I used to be really white.
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    Looking good bro. Very informative log to say the least.

    Keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin
    I feel for you bro, I really do.

    So, I'm sending you something to think about. And remember, Asia is only a 12 hour flight from the west coast of the US.

    From left to right: Miss Korea, Miss Singapore, Miss Japan, Miss China and Miss Malaysia
    Ah, shoot. There ain't even two bites of meat on the them chickens. You should see the wimen we got here at the Wallmart.

    Hell, some are so big, you would have to shoot 'em twice just to bring 'em down.

    You can slap their as$ and it will still be jiggling in the morning.

    Now that's a real woman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin
    Here are 2 more relaxed (not flexing) photos from tonight. I used to be really white.
    how tall are you?

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    I have got to try some of that melanotan, your tan is sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by znak
    Ah, shoot. There ain't even two bites of meat on the them chickens. You should see the wimen we got here at the Wallmart.

    Hell, some are so big, you would have to shoot 'em twice just to bring 'em down.

    You can slap their as$ and it will still be jiggling in the morning.

    Now that's a real woman!
    I hear ya. I'm not into Asians at all. I actually like a thicker woman too. Preferrably of the chocolate persuasion. Not fat. Just with curves. I hate abs on a woman. Not feminine at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znak
    Ah, shoot. There ain't even two bites of meat on the them chickens. You should see the wimen we got here at the Wallmart.

    Hell, some are so big, you would have to shoot 'em twice just to bring 'em down.

    You can slap their as$ and it will still be jiggling in the morning.

    Now that's a real woman!
    I read your log about Russia. The Russian girls I have seen are here are lovely...look like top models. Killer bods. For you, Miss Norway below.

    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69
    how tall are you?
    175cm (5'9") short

    Quote Originally Posted by majorpecs
    I have got to try some of that melanotan, your tan is sick!
    Thanks. Melanotan 2 is amazing stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyboy
    I hear ya. I'm not into Asians at all. I actually like a thicker woman too. Preferrably of the chocolate persuasion. Not fat. Just with curves. I hate abs on a woman. Not feminine at all.
    Chocolate, cinnamon, olive, amber and alabaster....I love them all.

    I think you'll like Miss Jamaica below mon

    And finally, my personal favorite the adorable Miss Mexico.
    Last edited by thunderin; 08-13-2007 at 09:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin
    Thanks. Melanotan 2 is amazing stuff.
    Do you know how this stuff works on people with fair skin? I have some freckles on my arms.

    I hear some people are getting freckle-like spots with them.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin
    I think you'll like Miss Jamaica below mon
    Yeah now that's what I'm talkin about. Looks a little like my wife actually. Cept Miss Jamaica's got some chicken legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finny
    Do you know how this stuff works on people with fair skin? I have some freckles on my arms.

    I hear some people are getting freckle-like spots with them.

    Thanks.
    It does give spots at higher doses. You may want to try only 0.5mg eod until you get that tan you want. Then you may be able to maintain it with only 0.5mg every 3rd or 4th day to prevent spots.

    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyboy
    Yeah now that's what I'm talkin about. Looks a little like my wife actually. Cept Miss Jamaica's got some chicken legs.
    Just make sure you don't travel alone to Jamaica since you're married. The girls would eat you alive....they had me at "Welcome to Jamaica"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin
    Just make sure you don't travel alone to Jamaica since you're married. The girls would eat you alive....they had me at "Welcome to Jamaica"
    That's what my wife says about Trinidad.

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    i was just askin ur height cuz u look so thick at the weight ur at.

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    Thanks for the thread man. Good thread. I'm gonna do some hgh with my next one. I'll do it no matter what. It is interesting though, to see how peoples opinions on it vary. Tai for instance seemed to pretty much say it doesn't compare to aas, while your experiences seem to be pretty damn good to say the least. You look super too btw. I'm trying to decide on the dose I want to use, and yep, it will be in conjunction with juice. I guess I'll know how it reacts with me once I try it. BTW, is my mind playin' tricks on me or do you kinda keep sayin', "I look like crap," everytime you post pics. You look very good period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbone1975
    Thanks for the thread man. Good thread. I'm gonna do some hgh with my next one. I'll do it no matter what. It is interesting though, to see how peoples opinions on it vary. Tai for instance seemed to pretty much say it doesn't compare to aas, while your experiences seem to be pretty damn good to say the least. You look super too btw. I'm trying to decide on the dose I want to use, and yep, it will be in conjunction with juice. I guess I'll know how it reacts with me once I try it. BTW, is my mind playin' tricks on me or do you kinda keep sayin', "I look like crap," everytime you post pics. You look very good period.
    Everyone is different and I definitely respect others' opinions and experiences. You have to find what works right for you.

    Thanks. We all have an ideal we work towards. I simply have not reached mine yet, but I'm working on it. Bodybuilding is like running a marathon not a 100 sprint. It is a life-long endeavor.

    A note on melanotan 2: this is my first day at the beach in a tropical country close to the equator, and the tan I got from melanotan 2 allowed me to be out in the direct sun from from 2pm -5pm without burning. No sunblock....amazing stuff. I am darker than the locals .

    Amazingly enough, I found a new local gym fully fitted out with all new Ivanco weights and Hammer Strength machines for $15 USD per month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin
    I got my gear out and started going through everything. It looked so attractive, shiny and inviting. My yellow bottle of tren started speaking to me saying, "I can help you get big, strong and nasty, try me, try me." Then his brother masty e and daddy test joined in. When cousin tbol chimed in too, I was convinced.
    The rest is history. Amazing how good I feel today

    Thanks bros
    That's pretty damn funny, makes me think of that George Thorogood song I Drink Alone.

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    I agree with you. Doesn't it kinda seem like a lot of people, not everyone though LOL, are their own worst critic? Me for instance. I'm no freak of nature by any means, but I never thought I'd find myself benching well over 400 pounds and squating five and a half, and saying to myself, "I need to get bigger LOL."

    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin
    Everyone is different and I definitely respect others' opinions and experiences. You have to find what works right for you.

    Thanks. We all have an ideal we work towards. I simply have not reached mine yet, but I'm working on it. Bodybuilding is like running a marathon not a 100 sprint. It is a life-long endeavor.

    A note on melanotan 2: this is my first day at the beach in a tropical country close to the equator, and the tan I got from melanotan 2 allowed me to be out in the direct sun from from 2pm -5pm without burning. No sunblock....amazing stuff. I am darker than the locals .

    Amazingly enough, I found a new local gym fully fitted out with all new Ivanco weights and Hammer Strength machines for $15 USD per month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyboy
    That's what my wife says about Trinidad.
    Damn bro...you weren't jokin. Check out Miss Universe 1998 from Trinidad and Tobago. She's beautiful
    Last edited by thunderin; 08-13-2007 at 09:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbone1975
    I agree with you. Doesn't it kinda seem like a lot of people, not everyone though LOL, are their own worst critic? Me for instance. I'm no freak of nature by any means, but I never thought I'd find myself benching well over 400 pounds and squating five and a half, and saying to myself, "I need to get bigger LOL."
    So right you are. It's really tough to see yourself objectively as you really are in the mirror. You could be a monster, but you might only see a someone much smaller in the mirror.

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    My wife is hotter.

    She's from Trinidad.
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    She's beautiful. You're a lucky man. If I were single, I would ask if she has a sister, but I'm married

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    Thanks bro. Is that the little Miss Thunderin in your avatar?

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    How do you afford that. I do 1IU a day and I can barely afford it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyboy
    Thanks bro. Is that the little Miss Thunderin in your avatar?
    No, just a friend

    Quote Originally Posted by skyman2345
    How do you afford that. I do 1IU a day and I can barely afford it!
    Simple. I live overseas.

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    Weight 102kg (224lbs) feeling great but so very full all the time. Yes, I'm a pig

    Have upped the slin to 30iu's ed.

    For all those who say my cycle is too heavy check out the legendary **TR's cycle below:

    "Cycle experience- HAHAHAH dont even ask

    Anadrol 150mg ed run the first 20 weeks of the cycle at 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off.

    1-40 test-e 2 grams every week

    1-15 Deca 900mg ew

    1-30 800mg EQ ew

    20-40 1 gram tren enanthate a week

    20-30 1 gram suspension every week

    22-30 120mg var ed

    34-40 40mg halo ed

    Slin 20ius ed (10 ius in the AM, 10 ius post workout)

    Gh 9ius ed throughout the entire cycle."

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    Man that's an expensive a$$ cycle, hope you get the gains you are after.

    -Gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gear
    Man that's an expensive a$$ cycle, hope you get the gains you are after.

    -Gear
    I don't think that's what he's running bro, it's one of BDTR's cycles - where is that lunatic anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    I don't think that's what he's running bro, it's one of BDTR's cycles - where is that lunatic anyway?
    "For all those who say my cycle is too heavy check out the legendary **TR's cycle below:"

    I titally missed that line.

    As for Mr.B D, he is long gone, he has not been with us for a few years now. I believe he runs his own board now.

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    Weight 103kg

    Strength is kicking in hard, and I am feeling great. I backed down on the slin as it is a b..h to control at 30iu. Now at 15iu ed.

    Looking very dark from life at the beach here.

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    Does Melanotan 2 work? You be the judge. Remember these were taken in bright daylight.

    Weight 103kg (227lbs)

    My wife is not fair skinned either. The last one is a before photo.
    Last edited by thunderin; 08-13-2007 at 09:27 AM.

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    wow thunderin...you could be the MTII spokesperson, thats some serious color

    when you get some time, would you mind posting your MTII dosage/injection protocol? maintence dosage as well?

    lookin good bro!

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    Looking good, and dark like a tanned Mexican too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by plzr8
    wow thunderin...you could be the MTII spokesperson, thats some serious color

    when you get some time, would you mind posting your MTII dosage/injection protocol? maintence dosage as well?

    lookin good bro!
    Thanks. I never use more than 0.5mg per day. This way, I can avoid nausea and spots. Keep your vial of diluted melanotan 2 refrigerated and make sure it contains between 2-3% BA. I use a Novapen or Humapen for my injections. I simply empty out the insulin and replace it with diluted melanotan. No one will ever question an insulin pen.

    Load phase:

    Day 1-15: 0.5mg ed with 10-20min in a tanning bad or direct sun ed
    Most people will be satisfied with their tan at this point. If not, continue loading until you reach your desired color.

    Maintenance phase:

    Every 3rd-4th day 0.5mg along with 10min in tanning bed or direct sunlight every 3rd-4th day.

    Things to say when people ask you how you got so dark:

    1. My grandfather was from Italy or Spain
    2. I had been using Michael Jackson's whitening cream, and I got tired of it.
    3. I always been this dark. You just didn't notice.
    4. I bought stock in George Hamilton's facial bronzer company.
    5. In the 70's, I wanted to look like a hippy. In the 80's, I wanted to look like a cowboy. In the 90's, I wanted to look disheveled like I just rolled out of bed. And now, I want to look ethnic to celebrate diversity.
    6. I got in a fight with a tanning bed and lost.
    7. My Spanish girlfriend is having an effect on me.
    8. I guess drinking so much coffee goes straight to my skin.
    9. GNC told me I was buying vitamins, but they were really tanning pills. Can I sue?
    10. I rub monkey excrement on my face 3 times a day because it's supposed to give me good luck.

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    Thunderin looking great...

    I was reading some posts on MII, where people dilute the stuff, and use it according to weight. That way, one 10g bottles lasts them for 10 injections or something crazy like that. It seems to be very, very expensive that way as well.

    I think a girl posted something as above on this forum.

    You seem to be doing it by fractions of a mg, which I understand more and MII will also last much longer - it also makes more sense.

    Any ideas?

    Edit: at this point I am debating the use of the product as I have some freckles and I've read that frecles darken and stay dark upon discontinuation of the product.

    Is anyone using the product past summer? Maintenance through winter at lower doses and less of a tan, just to give you that golden skin tone?

    Thanks.

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    thanks for the good info bro....think i may finally give MTII a try

    at that dose, did you encounter any new freckles/moles/etc at any point?

    i know it depends on the person's initial skin type, im naturally fairly dark

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    Quote Originally Posted by plzr8
    thanks for the good info bro....think i may finally give MTII a try

    at that dose, did you encounter any new freckles/moles/etc at any point?

    i know it depends on the person's initial skin type, im naturally fairly dark
    1mg ed gave me spots. Be safe and try 0.5mg ed to see how your skin reacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderin
    1mg ed gave me spots. Be safe and try 0.5mg ed to see how your skin reacts.
    will be doing just that...will start later this week, keep you posted

    thanks bro

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