PINNACLE..im calling you out...opps

[Kale]

Hi Gear

So you felt things were getting heated and jumped in to keep it on track..I agree totally..but what about this ?(See quote below)


It's uncalled for this type of language in this forum. I come to this section to read up on HGH IGF SLIN not about porn involving teenage girls and smut. It's a shame because Pinn has good info to offer and i have to read thru his post then come upon this crap with underage girls and smut.

A few heated words and you jump in ..that's great..No flaming is enforced also but when it comes to this shiat ( Vile posts ) it's OK .

Yes porn is out there but this isn't the place for these type of posts. I would like to see this type of posting enforced also as this isn't the section where it belongs.

I can't believe you draw the line on other things and this nonsense gets by without a word from you or any other mod .

This isn't the only post of this nature from him.

Thankyou for your time.
Blue

Please highlight where underage was mentioned. 18 and 19 is still considered "teenage" is it not ?

[plzr8]

this isnt a congressional hearing....its a online steroid forum and many things discussed on a daily basis tend to be illegal.

yah pinn is a bit crazy, but contributes a great deal of knowledge & first hand experience. i dont think any "line" was crossed....like kale said, the porn reference im sure was 18+ and considered legal. granted i dont really care for the porn references, but im not on 6g of test....gotta get it out somewhere i guess!

this is no attack on you blue, just my .02....carry on

[Bluerain]

Please highlight where underage was mentioned. 18 and 19 is still considered "teenage" is it not ?

I can't believe you're even saying this..

Underage is also 13 14 15 16 17..where did he say 18 19 ?

It works both ways .

Doesn't it disturbed you what was posted ..do you have a daughter ..sister..?

Even if he did say 18 -19 (which he didn't) these type of posts don't belong in this section but you chose to ignore that and get into semantics.

Enough from me ..

[BITTAPART2]

lol, thanks for taking the heat of me. Back on track with the IGF discussion. that or teenagers taking igf in the arse is good topic

[goose]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Gear]

Bluerain,

You're absolutely right. Some of the stuff that has been said may have offended some, but I didn't say anything about it because everyone seemed to be ok with it. I guess I shouldn't wait till someone is effected before doing something about it. Next time around, I'll make sure any unnecessary comments are deleted and a warning is issued to the poster.

Thank you pointing that out.

-Gear

[bmg]

what wrong with a man proclaiming his fascination of porn... i thought it fit right in.

[legobricks]

Great discussion guys, and gals

Always interesting to know the full view with people. I remember hearing a little bit from goose about the Lr3 version which was very interesting to know. I needed to know myself so I ran another cycle of IGF at 100mcg per day versus the 50mcg last time. The only things i noticed was infact increased glycogen retention, shed a little bit of fat, and hardened up a bit. Also became a little vascular.

Other then that, i really see no benefit of IGF Lr3 so with that and it being expensive for the results i wont use it anymore. I would use it if it was 50 per 2mg but other then that its not worth it. Im not sure who stated it but id rather spend the money on blue tops per month.

With that being said, that money for 2mg of IGF could have gone towards a nice short prop cycle which would have yielded better results. Thanks goose and Pinn AND Gear for ur input!

[BITTAPART2]

totaly agree about the price, if it was 50per 2mg Id be allover it post cycle. I am going to stick to growth and slin, only took me 2 months to find the growth lol

[goose]

At the end of the day,me and pinn care about the community,we dont like our guys pissing away money.Me and pinn were the first generation of IGF users,I know I wasted several thousands on this junk (back then it was double the price today) when it came out,the studies were amazing,but reality is something else.

[Narkissos]

It's uncalled for this type of language in this forum. I come to this section to read up on HGH IGF SLIN not about porn involving teenage girls and smut. It's a shame because Pinn has good info to offer and i have to read thru his post then come upon this crap with underage girls and smut.

A few heated words and you jump in ..that's great..No flaming is enforced also but when it comes to this shiat ( Vile posts ) it's OK .

Yes porn is out there but this isn't the place for these type of posts. I would like to see this type of posting enforced also as this isn't the section where it belongs.

I can't believe you draw the line on other things and this nonsense gets by without a word from you or any other mod .

This isn't the only post of this nature from him.

Thankyou for your time.
Blue

*rolls eyes*

That's more than a bit over-the-top is it not?

Where was porn discussed?

A casual mention?

Right.

-CNS

[Pinnacle]

I can't believe you're even saying this..

Underage is also 13 14 15 16 17..where did he say 18 19 ?

It works both ways .

Doesn't it disturbed you what was posted ..do you have a daughter ..sister..?

Even if he did say 18 -19 (which he didn't) these type of posts don't belong in this section but you chose to ignore that and get into semantics.

Enough from me ..

Do yourself a favor and put me on ignore, because I'll tell you something right here and now. And listen closely.......

I will NOT alter my sense of humor for ANYONE, especially someone of your mentality. I was not talking foul language, nor did I make any reference to under aged females. It was humor among men. Do I feel bad your are offend? Not a chance. I could care less what you think. You came in and now have ruined what "was" an informative thread. I'm certain it will be locked or deleted because of [B]YOU]. Great job. You should feel proud ...

Here let me play a song for you while you nibble on your WHINE and cheese



Recognize the song? It's called " Cry me a f*cking river"

[Pinnacle]

Bluerain,

You're absolutely right. Some of the stuff that has been said may have offended some, but I didn't say anything about it because everyone seemed to be ok with it. I guess I shouldn't wait till someone is effected before doing something about it. Next time around, I'll make sure any unnecessary comments are deleted and a warning is issued to the poster.

Thank you pointing that out.

-Gear

Warn posters of what? Humor? There was nothing offensive posted in this
his thread. She's just looking to start sh*t. And for no reason I might add.

There are zero rules about humor, whether it be in regards to porn or whatever as long as it isn't racial slurs/ bigot comments ect.
Should any of my posts EVER get deleted I will speak to Brian about it.
Moderating is just that.You don't alter rules to appease one whiny person that has a piss poor out look on life.Has zero sense of humor and is just plain miserable

[Narkissos]

^^Harsh... But agreed.

Could we get the thread back on track now?

I'd like to hear about cumulative muscle gains from IGF.

Personally i got plenty of muscle from my 10-day run of igf.

Unforunately, all of it was intestinal.

My waist went from 26.5" to 28".

-CNS

[Pinnacle]

^^Harsh... But agreed.

Could we get the thread back on track now?

I'd like to hear about cumulative muscle gains from IGF.

Personally i got plenty of muscle from my 10-day run of igf.

Unforunately, all of it was intestinal.

My waist went from 26.5" to 28".

-CNS

LOL.. harsh? haha... I was being VERY kind:-) If you only knew what I really wanted to say...

I don't know how you had enlarged intestines on LRshit IGF-1. It's IGF-2 that binds to receptors in the intestines. You might have possibly had a flair up of Candida. Insulin is known to cause that and since IGF is Insulin-like, it's something to take into account

[Pinnacle]

I see you down there lurking Jay...lol..

[Narkissos]

LOL.. harsh? haha... I was being VERY kind:-) If you only knew what I really wanted to say...

I have an idea

I don't know how you had enlarged intestines on LRshit IGF-1. It's IGF-2 that binds to receptors in the intestines.

I'm aware that the distension is attributed to IGF-2...though I'm not 100% convinced.

Who knows what was/is in the Chinese IGF however.

You might have possibly had a flair up of Candida. Insulin is known to cause that and since IGF is Insulin-like, it's something to take into account

2 years ago, when i used the IGF, Whitey raised that as a possibility

Would you suggest chronic Candida overgrowth?

Because the waist increase wasn't temporary.

-C

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Thanks Gear for your input.


What about you C? Any igf feedback?

[Pinnacle]

Would you suggest chronic Candida overgrowth?

Because the waist increase wasn't temporary.

-C

Since you are in a country where OTC thrush treatments are most likely sold, I'd check that out. 1-2 doses and it will be gone.

I had the same thing happen a few years back using slin. Everyone has that bacteria in the intestines, but drugs like insulin really flair it up especially when eating higher carbs.

[Narkissos]

Since you are in a country where OTC thrush treatments are most likely sold, I'd check that out. 1-2 doses and it will be gone.

I did use a compound for it when it was suggested to me 2 years ago... I'm not at home at the moment, so I'd have to post the name of it when I get there.. I think I should have the package still.

I had the same thing happen a few years back using slin. Everyone has that bacteria in the intestines, but drugs like insulin really flair it up especially when eating higher carbs.

So I've read...But given that I did use an oral anti-fungal post-assessment... but still have the distension, I attributed the distension to actual growth... as opposed to a flair up.

Would you suggest I try another anti-fungal at this point... or get fecal sample taken to assess what the deal is?

Cus I'd like a sub-26" waist again

-C

[Narkissos]

I did use a compound for it when it was suggested to me 2 years ago... I'm not at home at the moment, so I'd have to post the name of it when I get there.. I think I should have the package still.

So I've read...But given that I did use an oral anti-fungal post-assessment... but still have the distension, I attributed the distension to actual growth... as opposed to a flair up.

Would you suggest I try another anti-fungal at this point... or get fecal sample taken to assess what the deal is?

Cus I'd like a sub-26" waist again

-C

I haven't used slin since by the way.

If there's an OTC-thrush med you'd suggest as well, I'm all ears.

-CNS

[Pinnacle]

[QUOTE=*Narkissos*;4036846]I did use a compound for it when it was suggested to me 2 years ago... I'm not at home at the moment, so I'd have to post the name of it when I get there.. I think I should have the package still.



So I've read...But given that I did use an oral anti-fungal post-assessment... but still have the distension, I attributed the distension to actual growth... as opposed to a flair up.

Would you suggest I try another anti-fungal at this point... or get fecal sample taken to assess what the deal is?

Cus I'd like a sub-26" waist again
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300mg of Difflucan is what cured my issue.

I really can't see LR3 being the cause of your distention. Not saying it is impossible, but I'd look at other possible reasons.

Take into account as you progress your waist isn't going to stay the same size. Many blame it on drugs, but lifting heavy ass weight will thicken your waist. Over eating does this too.

[Narkissos]

300mg of Difflucan is what cured my issue.

A one time dose?

I'll ask my pharmacist about it in the morning.

I really can't see LR3 being the cause of your distention. Not saying it is impossible, but I'd look at other possible reasons.

Take into account as you progress your waist isn't going to stay the same size. Many blame it on drugs, but lifting heavy ass weight will thicken your waist. Over eating does this too.

That's the thing... I was prepping for contest, so i was otherwise drug free.

I was on sub-2000 calories... and I added IGF for the last 10 days (+ some MGF into the bis and calves).

I watched my waist size grow even as i got harder and harder.

Does what I'm describing make sense to you?

-CNS

[PT]

i want to hear more views on igf. im well aware of all the so called facts that gropep and other igf suppliers indicate but i want to hear personal experiances. pin made a few good points and if he's correct then were all wasting our money on igf. i was one of the first people to use receptor grade igf when it first came out and i always thought i was having good results but then again i never really ever used it alone. when igf first hit the market years ago one of the main suppliers sent me and a few others samples so we could post our results and of course since i got it for free i didnt have one negative comment. i honestly belived that igf was helping me recover faster and was making my harder but this post is making me think. i want to thank pinn for opening my eyes and because of this i have alot of research to do this weekend. im a member of at least 10-15 boards and im going to make a thread on every board asking people this same question. of course i will get a bunch of morons that will say, "igf made me huge" or "i love it" but i want proof and results from experianced users

[jef]

so what positive effect does igf have? muscle retention while losing fat? is it even worth taking? from working with you in the past I always thought it was good to use on a moderate-high carb diet and would help with fat loss, vascularity and muscle retention...can you give clarification on this?

[groundandpoundpwr21]

If I only had a dollar every time someone got bent out if shape when I told them LR3 is f*cking useless(as a muscle builder), I'd be sipping Mai Thai"s on a beach on f*cking Tahiti :-)

Ive tried it many ways and I have to agree with you that its useless.

[Pinnacle]

A one time dose?

I'll ask my pharmacist about it in the morning.



That's the thing... I was prepping for contest, so i was otherwise drug free.

I was on sub-2000 calories... and I added IGF for the last 10 days (+ some MGF into the bis and calves).

I watched my waist size grow even as i got harder and harder.

Does what I'm describing make sense to you?

-CNS

Yep... 300 mgs once per day

Not sure what caused your issue bro. Maybe you got lucky and used REAL IGF-1 :-)

[Pinnacle]

Ive tried it many ways and I have to agree with you that its useless.

Yep, all the people I know that experimented heavily with LR3 all agree it useless as a muscle building compound.
There was a poll done on my home board awhile back in regards to LR3, NOT ONE person said it aided in muscle tisssue. NOT ONE! And the board is pretty much loaded with top level bodybuilders.Actually it is a bodybuilding board with a drug section. But when you have tons of national level competitors all saying the same thing, that alone is worth it's weight in gold.

[Narkissos]

Yep... 300 mgs once per day

Everything I've read on fluconazole suggests that an extended dosing protocol is the way to go about it, as it supposedly hinders candida's proliferation... as opposed to killing it.

I'm going to go with your suggestion however... I'll see if anything changes in the weeks post-administration.

If it doesn't, I'll go with 200 mg Ed for 2 weeks.

Interestingly, I met a female competitor just yesterday who's had a similar issue... and she's gone the homeopathic route on this one after having tried fluconazole with nil resolution. (homeopathy + nystatin; and dietary changes)

So... I'll let you know how the the fluconazole goes... and also compare it v.s. the homeopathic route (should diflucan fail).

I'm currently using some of the same stuff she's using in her homeopathic approach...stuff that i use more or less year round... so it'd just be a matter of increasing the amounts consumed.

Not sure what caused your issue bro. Maybe you got lucky and used REAL IGF-1 :-)

I think it was real... but i didn't do an assay of what was in the vial to collaborate that claim.

Thanks for your assistance.

-CNS

[groundandpoundpwr21]

Yep, all the people I know that experimented heavily with LR3 all agree it useless as a muscle building compound.
There was a poll done on my home board awhile back in regards to LR3, NOT ONE person said it aided in muscle tisssue. NOT ONE! And the board is pretty much loaded with top level bodybuilders.Actually it is a bodybuilding board with a drug section. But when you have tons of national level competitors all saying the same thing, that alone is worth it's weight in gold.

I like fina better for raising igf levels and leaning out.

[fujitsupalm]

i was on igf-1, hgh, on a tren a and test prop cycle.

actually continuing with the IGF-1, hgh, coming to an end of my pct. (third week)

it could be the gh im not sure, just sharing how im feeling right now with my pct.

PCT is the same old same old, hcg , a-dex, clomid.

first week of coming off gear and on pct, i noticed and accepted the fact that my sex drive would be low, however like any other tren cycles i have had and the usual pct, and this is the first time i used igf-1 and hgh.

end of the second week, i was able to fxxk my girls brains out again... i loved that... (not pornography, just mentioning and surprised how soon i could actually find my gf really attractive again that soon after a cycle)

now end of third week, every time i see her i cant get my hands off her, and the hard-on seems to be good, unlike my other pct times, where it took almost a whole month to start really wanting to have sex of any sort with my girl...

so it is the gh helping? or the igf helping? or this time my body just on its own recovered better with the usual pct, or it's just placebo effect (or is it only my imagination that im fxxking my girls brain out, whereas she does not think so? lol)

cheers guys...

[RA]

This thread cracks me up..lol

[D7M]

^lol

classic Pinn.

[Flex-Appeal]

I'm glad this old ass thread was bumped, I got my laughs in for the day!