CJC-1295/GHRP-6 Log

**alexISthrowed** · 01-03-2012, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

a sterile research peptide can be misinterpreted easily - customs hassle poorly packaged & packs lacking proper documentation

Ahh yes that makes sense.

**Matt** · 01-08-2012, 10:35 AM

Anyone know the difference between (D-LYS³) GHRP-6 and just plain GHRP-6????

And which is better??

**lovbyts** · 01-09-2012, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Matt

Anyone know the difference between (D-LYS³) GHRP-6 and just plain GHRP-6????

And which is better??

I cant vouch for this, only what I found via google.

D-Lys3 Growth Hormone Release Peptide-6
[D-Lys³] GHRP-6 is a Ghrelin and GHRP-6 antagonist (anti-Ghrelin). An antagonist is an opposing or resistant structure in relation and tends to neutralize or impede some action or effect. In this case, the [D-Lys³] GHRP-6 is actually a selective antagonist of the cognate ghrelin receptor, i.e. the GH-secretagogue receptor (GSR).

D-Lys-3-GHRP-6 is a GH secretagogue receptor (GHS-R) antagonist (inhibitor). It has been shown to significantly reduce GHRH-mediated growth hormone release.

D-lys3-ghrp-6 is quite nice for appetite suppression but the effects seem to wear off after 2-3 weeks. I've heard the same is true for ghrp-6's appetite stimulation. You'll still see the benefits of the added GH with time with both: one kills your appetite the other makes you hungry.

So it seem it depends on what you want, appetite suppression or stimulation.
Also since it is also a inhibitor I would think the ghrp-6 is best, not the D-lys3.

**Matt** · 01-09-2012, 04:48 AM

Thanks lovbyts, exactly what i was looking for, great explanation.....

**Swifto** · 01-13-2012, 09:15 AM

In UK customs now, not long...

**Userat204** · 01-13-2012, 11:04 AM

Can't wait to see the log.

I typically run Mod-Grf with a combination of ghrp2, ipam, and hex.
Mod at 150mcg 3 times a day.
Ghrp2 or Ipam at 200-500mcg 2 x a day and hex pwo 400mcg.

Ghrp2 and ipam have been found to have a much higher saturation dose than previously thought, but at these doses for an extended period you will see a rise in prolactin and cortisol except with ipam there is no increase.

Good luck with the peps. Keep in mind that you will likely experience some flushing, similar to niacin but much weaker, and with ghrp6 some experience gastrointestinal issues at first instead of increased hunger, likely due to gherlin.

**JohnnyVegas** · 01-13-2012, 12:25 PM

I have been waiting for this as well. Interested to see how it goes.

**Swifto** · 01-18-2012, 04:58 PM

Right...

Its on...

Just did my first shot of 100mcg of CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 PWO (chest). 30mins later my hands are currently slightly tingling. Its also getting worse...

I am around 213bs at 13-15% (estimate) 5"11. I am hoping to get the body fat down and increase an LBM if I can.

Currently on 250mg Omna/Sust every 7 days. This will increase in 2-3 weeks to a fully loaded cycle.

Never done anything GH related at all. No GH or peptides.

Current protocol is AM, PM and PWO on workout days. 100mcg of each 3x day. If my sides are bad, I will lower to 2x day, then increase if I need to.

Cardio 4x week, moderate intensity for 20-30mins.

Mon - Chest
Tues - Back
Wed - OFF
Thurs - Legs
Fri - Arms/shoulders

**Swifto** · 01-18-2012, 04:59 PM

Ps.

Don't ask for pics, you'll know the answer.

**Swifto** · 01-19-2012, 11:11 AM

Day 2.

Did my shot this morning and didn't experience anything at all.

10mins ago I did my PWO shot of 100mcg of each CJC-1295/GHRP-6 and I have the flushing red feeling like I have just taken a viagra!

**baseline_9** · 01-19-2012, 11:16 AM

Looking forward to seeing what u get out of this

When does that tren start?

**Swifto** · 01-19-2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Looking forward to seeing what u get out of this

When does that tren start?

I stoped the Tren about 3 weeks back. It sent me mental and gave me acne.

I will re-introduce with low dose Test Prop and either Anadrol or Winstrol in 3 or so weeks.

I ran the Omna/Tren for 3 weeks and it smashed me to pieces. I think my Test dose was too high.

Tren will start at 50mg/EOD, not 100mg/EOD. Test at 350mg/wk, not 800mg/wk.

**baseline_9** · 01-19-2012, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I stoped the Tren about 3 weeks back. It sent me mental and gave me acne.

I will re-introduce with low dose Test Prop and either Anadrol or Winstrol in 3 or so weeks.

I ran the Omna/Tren for 3 weeks and it smashed me to pieces. I think my Test dose was too high.

Tren will start at 50mg/EOD, not 100mg/EOD. Test at 350mg/wk, not 800mg/wk.

Looks like your body just cant take the higher dosages. 800mg of test is hardly excessive, other than the sides did u respond well to the tren?

I have some Tren Ace that im planning on running before the summer, cant w8 to get back on...

**Swifto** · 01-19-2012, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Looks like your body just cant take the higher dosages. 800mg of test is hardly excessive, other than the sides did u respond well to the tren ?

I have some Tren Ace that im planning on running before the summer, cant w8 to get back on...

I'm very sensitive to androgens as it is.

I couldn't sleep, got the agression but my body was changing in the mirror every day. Its a remarkable compound and I will run it again soon, but lower dose.

The worst is the acne. Something I have battled with for years. I'm on Accuatne now at 20mg/ED and will be for 4-6months. I shouldn't need to do another cycle of Accutane after that, it usually clears the skin for good, androgens or not. Never done a full cycle of it, so give it a go.

**baseline_9** · 01-19-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I'm very sensitive to androgens as it is.

I couldn't sleep, got the agression but my body was changing in the mirror every day. Its a remarkable compound and I will run it again soon, but lower dose.

The worst is the acne. Something I have battled with for years. I'm on Accuatne now at 20mg/ED and will be for 4-6months. I shouldn't need to do another cycle of Accutane after that, it usually clears the skin for good, androgens or not. Never done a full cycle of it, so give it a go.

Maybe the GH and peptide route is the way for you then

**Swifto** · 01-19-2012, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Maybe the GH and peptide route is the way for you then

I hope so mate.

This acne is nowhere near as bad as I had before, but training chest yesterday, a spot on my back burst and started bleeding. It went through my t-shirt and you could see if theough my really thin hoody. I just about hid it with the hood pulled over, but its f*cking embaressing and if it doesn't improve, I'm coming off of everything. Its the only thing that prevents me from certain compounds and higher doses.

In fact, I thought to myself yesterday after it happened, what the f*ck am I doing. I nearly gave it all up I swear.

I can't take my top off its getting that bad again.

**Phyll** · 01-19-2012, 12:55 PM

Well bro the acne is still prob reminiscent from the tren , so hold on a bit longer. I will be following your log too... I am doing a pep-only cycle just like you (GHRP-6 and CJC-1295, 100mcg each). I have been on for almost three weeks now and not much has changed yet. I don't get many sides, sometimes don't feel anything at all. I do get hungry sometimes, but really no tingling and only a very mild flush _sometimes_. I know this is a long-term commitment, but I am not entirely sold on peps yet... Let's see how it goes for you. Good luck bro.

**Cravenmorehead** · 01-19-2012, 01:03 PM

I am currently running 100mcg mod and -2 3x daily I'm going to alternate weekly between -2 and imap just to compare the two compounds. My other compounds are 50mg anavar , 400mg test C, and 20mg exemestane. I just had platelet enriched plasma injected into both elbows to try and heal my medial tendonosis issues. I am considering lowering my test dose to 200 but apparently there have been some studies that show test doesn't interfere with collagen formation as is commonly believed. My goal is complete resolution of the elbow issues. I can still do all exercises except pullups and rows and curls. Any pressing motions are fine and my grip strength is recovering. The injuries occured with high load exercises on rings and bar muscle-ups.......make sure you build up slowly on these things as often our muscles are way ahead of tendons.
I am 55 yo
6'0" tall
195 lbs
8% BF

**Cravenmorehead** · 01-19-2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I hope so mate.

This acne is nowhere near as bad as I had before, but training chest yesterday, a spot on my back burst and started bleeding. It went through my t-shirt and you could see if theough my really thin hoody. I just about hid it with the hood pulled over, but its f*cking embaressing and if it doesn't improve, I'm coming off of everything. Its the only thing that prevents me from certain compounds and higher doses.

In fact, I thought to myself yesterday after it happened, what the f*ck am I doing. I nearly gave it all up I swear.

I can't take my top off its getting that bad again.

I did one week of tren and my wife blew a gasket with the way my back looked........plus the tren made me insane........you're not alone man!

**Cravenmorehead** · 01-19-2012, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Phyll

Well bro the acne is still prob reminiscent from the tren, so hold on a bit longer. I will be following your log too... I am doing a pep-only cycle just like you (GHRP-6 and CJC-1295, 100mcg each). I have been on for almost three weeks now and not much has changed yet. I don't get many sides, sometimes don't feel anything at all. I do get hungry sometimes, but really no tingling and only a very mild flush _sometimes_. I know this is a long-term commitment, but I am not entirely sold on peps yet... Let's see how it goes for you. Good luck bro.

Who knows if we are really getting what is on the label. I always question peptides and ancillaries. It's a difficult game. I mean it's pretty easy to tell if your Test is gtg.......but the ancillaries.......you don't know until everything is screwed up.

**Phyll** · 01-19-2012, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead

Who knows if we are really getting what is on the label. I always question peptides and ancillaries. It's a difficult game. I mean it's pretty easy to tell if your Test is gtg.......but the ancillaries.......you don't know until everything is screwed up.

That's exactly my point. Sometimes I question whether this stuff is legit or dosed correctly.

**Cravenmorehead** · 01-19-2012, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Phyll

That's exactly my point. Sometimes I question whether this stuff is legit or dosed correctly.

Difficult to know with the peptides and other stuff, eh? I guess we all need full labs to do analysis and or amino acid sequencers. Sad state of affairs.

In fact I might just get some Lilly HGH just to know I'm getting the real deal for this healing period.......hard to beat human grade US manufactured products. There's peace of mind knowing what you are injecting. After all the prions that cause mad cow disease are only 250ish amino acids long........would hate to be injecting an ultimately infectious protein.

**Swifto** · 01-19-2012, 05:18 PM

My hunger has also be elevated post shot. It takes about 1-2 hours, then it hits.

My diet is clean and I should be gaining a fair amount of LBM from the clean cals increase overtime.

**Swifto** · 01-20-2012, 12:21 PM

Not much change in scale weight.

The hunger is a good thing as it means I can eat much more. I'm getting so hungry post shot that I could eat a plate of anything. The added clean cals will almost certainly mean more LBM.

Nothing else to report.

**Swifto** · 01-20-2012, 06:23 PM

Just done my last shot of the day before bed.

The hunger is abnormal. I can eat anything and everything, which is good. My apetite is literally ridiculous 30mins after the shot. I do not get full.

**Cravenmorehead** · 01-20-2012, 07:20 PM

-6 gives hunger, elevated cortisol and prolactin I believe.

**Swifto** · 01-22-2012, 02:59 PM

I'm up 3lbs, probably water. I am starting to get increased pumps in the gym now.

No side effects as of yet that are noticable. Sometimes I get the tingly hands post shot.

**baseline_9** · 01-22-2012, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Just done my last shot of the day before bed.

The hunger is abnormal. I can eat anything and everything, which is good. My apetite is literally ridiculous 30mins after the shot. I do not get full.

I would have to lock myself in the house with chicken breasts, white fish, brown rice and oats... otherwise I would be a fat fuk.... even more of a fat fuk than I already am

**M302_Imola** · 01-23-2012, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by Cravenmorehead

-6 gives hunger, slightly elevated cortisol and prolactin (but still in the normal range) I believe.

fixed in bold

**Swifto** · 01-23-2012, 11:33 AM

I feel like a f*cking pin cushion pinning 3x day I swear.

**baseline_9** · 01-23-2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I feel like a f*cking pin cushion pinning 3x day I swear.

You may as well throw in some Suspension and pin it IM....

Have u had b4 blood work done? U gonna do any during (I think I have already asked this)...

**Swifto** · 01-23-2012, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

You may as well throw in some Suspension and pin it IM....

Have u had b4 blood work done? U gonna do any during (I think I have already asked this)...

I may get IGF-1, HGH done, I need to see if I can get it done through my doctor.

He's being an arsehold right now and has limited me to BW 4x per year, which isnt too bad, but doesn't usually include IGF-1 or HGH...

Still on low dose Sust, not ramped yet, I'm getting itchy feet already though. Will ramp soon, probably get BW done prior to check all is in order before the blast commences.

**Swifto** · 01-23-2012, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

You may as well throw in some Suspension and pin it IM....

Have u had b4 blood work done? U gonna do any during (I think I have already asked this)...

I may get IGF-1, HGH done, I need to see if I can get it done through my doctor.

He's being an arsehold right now and has limited me to BW 4x per year, which isnt too bad, but doesn't usually include IGF-1 or HGH...

Still on low dose Sust, not ramped yet, I'm getting itchy feet already though. Will ramp soon, probably get BW done prior to check all is in order before the blast commences.

**baseline_9** · 01-23-2012, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I may get IGF-1, HGH done, I need to see if I can get it done through my doctor.

He's being an arsehold right now and has limited me to BW 4x per year, which isnt too bad, but doesn't usually include IGF-1 or HGH...

Still on low dose Sust, not ramped yet, I'm getting itchy feet already though. Will ramp soon, probably get BW done prior to check all is in order before the blast commences.

Me and Matt go to a guy in manchester.... It may be worth talking to him and asking if he does it... I know its a long way but if ever your in the area you could drop in

I know he did standard BW for us which covered all the basics... I asked about getting T3 checked and he said he could If i really wanted but it costs more (T3 check with regards to tren suppressing it, if at all)... Maybe he will check..

PM me if u want his details

**Matt** · 01-23-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Me and Matt go to a guy in manchester.... It may be worth talking to him and asking if he does it... I know its a long way but if ever your in the area you could drop in

I know he did standard BW for us which covered all the basics... I asked about getting T3 checked and he said he could If i really wanted but it costs more (T3 check with regards to tren suppressing it, if at all)... Maybe he will check..

PM me if u want his details

The last time i spoke to Gary he did say he can test for just about anything, so it would be worth it for Swifto if he doesn't mind traveling to sunny Manchester....

Im glad to hear the increased hunger with the 6, as soon as i have the money i will be buying it...

**lovbyts** · 01-24-2012, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I feel like a f*cking pin cushion pinning 3x day I swear.

LOL, I cant wait. I'm only up to 2x a day now due to mostly schedule but I'm also doing hrt 2x a week and Alflutops eod trying to heal up a bad shoulder and starting HCG soon so I feel your pain. I should be pinning 6x on some days soon.

BTW I'm hungry about 10 minutes after pinning also even if I ate recently.

**M302_Imola** · 01-24-2012, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I feel like a f*cking pin cushion pinning 3x day I swear.

Tell me about it! I have gone up to pinning the peps 5x per day before, that $hit gets old quick! Pair that w/ prop and tren A and you literally are a walking pin cushion!

**Sgt. Hartman** · 01-24-2012, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

I may get IGF-1, HGH done, I need to see if I can get it done through my doctor.

He's being an arsehold right now and has limited me to BW 4x per year, which isnt too bad, but doesn't usually include IGF-1 or HGH...

Still on low dose Sust, not ramped yet, I'm getting itchy feet already though. Will ramp soon, probably get BW done prior to check all is in order before the blast commences.

Do you guys not have any of the online blood testing companies like we have over here? I had my blood checked enough times last year that Direct Labs sent me a Christmas card and a 2012 planner/calender. LOL.

**Swifto** · 01-24-2012, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

LOL, I cant wait. I'm only up to 2x a day now due to mostly schedule but I'm also doing hrt 2x a week and Alflutops eod trying to heal up a bad shoulder and starting HCG soon so I feel your pain. I should be pinning 6x on some days soon.

BTW I'm hungry about 10 minutes after pinning also even if I ate recently.

Its actually getting hard to not eat for 25-30mins after pinning.

Do we know how much eating carbs/fats affects the GH pulse if I were to eat? Its almost unbearable.

I literally pinned 15mins ago and I could eat a f*cking horse. Lucky I've got a shit load of lambs liver and rib eye steak lined up in a minute!