CJC-1295/GHRP-6 Log

**Phyll** · 01-24-2012, 03:22 PM

I don't get the hunger side nearly as often or as strong as before bro. It's been 3 weeks for me now, so maybe it'll be the same for you.

**baseline_9** · 01-24-2012, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Its actually getting hard to not eat for 25-30mins after pinning.

Do we know how much eating carbs/fats affects the GH pulse if I were to eat? Its almost unbearable.

I literally pinned 15mins ago and I could eat a f*cking horse. Lucky I've got a shit load of lambs liver and rib eye steak lined up in a minute!

My man!!!

Ribeye is the number 1 cut...

Where do u get your steak from... Got a little gem with regards to the best ribeye you will ever taste... (sainsburys 'taste the difference' in the black vac pack)

Honestly I have ate a lot of steak.. Different breeds, different ageing methods, I have even aged my own rib of beef for 6 weeks at home. But that stuff OFF THE SHELF at sainsburys is top nosh

**Swifto** · 01-24-2012, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

My man!!!

Ribeye is the number 1 cut...

Where do u get your steak from... Got a little gem with regards to the best ribeye you will ever taste... (sainsburys 'taste the difference' in the black vac pack)

Honestly I have ate a lot of steak.. Different breeds, different ageing methods, I have even aged my own rib of beef for 6 weeks at home. But that stuff OFF THE SHELF at sainsburys is top nosh

Straight from the butchers (farm) mate. I also get my egg's fresh as there is a woman that keep chickens close to me. Bollocks to the one's in the supermarket (eggs). The yolk is so much more yellow than even the most fresh organc eggs found in the supermarkets.

I get all my cuts from a farm near me.

Raw milk I have to order. I've been hitting organic pasterurised whole milk recently and I havent noticed a great deal of difference.

I will try the packaged one from sainsbury's next week as I have a good supply at present.

I often eat lambs liver and hearts. Full of iron and lean protein.

**Swifto** · 01-24-2012, 05:29 PM

If your a steak man...

Go to Gaucho Grill in London.

Best Argentinian steak you will eat in this country I promise you.

**baseline_9** · 01-24-2012, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

If your a steak man...

Go to Gaucho Grill in London.

Best Argentinian steak you will eat in this country I promise you.

I will go if im ever down south...

**baseline_9** · 01-24-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Straight from the butchers (farm) mate. I also get my egg's fresh as there is a woman that keep chickens close to me. Bollocks to the one's in the supermarket (eggs). The yolk is so much more yellow than even the most fresh organc eggs found in the supermarkets.

I get all my cuts from a farm near me.

Raw milk I have to order. I've been hitting organic pasterurised whole milk recently and I havent noticed a great deal of difference.

I will try the packaged one from sainsbury's next week as I have a good supply at present.

I often eat lambs liver and hearts. Full of iron and lean protein.

Sounds like u have a good thing there...

My m8 gets me some fresh eggs off a farm every now and again, bright orange yolkes as you say... Better than even the best ones at the supermarket

When me and the GF get a house together next year were planning on keeping chickens in the garden.... Maybe about 4... Usually lay and egg or 2 a day each depending on the breed.

I havnt eaten any liver or offal for ages... I do however have 5lbs of chicken livers in the freezer that I was supposed to make into pate to give out at xmass... Never happened LOL 4got I had em.

**lovbyts** · 01-24-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Its actually getting hard to not eat for 25-30mins after pinning.

Do we know how much eating carbs/fats affects the GH pulse if I were to eat? Its almost unbearable.

I literally pinned 15mins ago and I could eat a f*cking horse. Lucky I've got a shit load of lambs liver and rib eye steak lined up in a minute!

From what I understand and have read
Its not the same as pinning ugh and being affected by protein or carbs but I'm sure it doesn't hurt to wait a while.

**Twolf20** · 01-25-2012, 01:03 AM

I'm prescribed Sermorelin, GHRP-2, and GHRP-6. Initially the dose they gave me was INCREDIBLY high, like 600mcgs of the ghrp but only 200mcgs of the Sermorelin per day. Upon realizing this I altered the dosage to 300mcgs of each per day (dropped the ghrp-6 altogether) and saw really great results about 3 months in. Leaner, stronger, and my bad shoulder stopped aching like it used to. I could not run Arimadex because my joints would ache but since starting these peptides I've been good to go. It's different than aas, as in no instant gratification....but I've found the results to be more permanent. Cheers and good luck.

**M302_Imola** · 01-25-2012, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Its actually getting hard to not eat for 25-30mins after pinning.

Do we know how much eating carbs/fats affects the GH pulse if I were to eat? Its almost unbearable.

I literally pinned 15mins ago and I could eat a f*cking horse. Lucky I've got a shit load of lambs liver and rib eye steak lined up in a minute!

Swifto If you can't fight the urge to have carbs/fats for 25-30 mins post injection then at least wait 20 mins. As I'm sure you know, protein immediately after pinning is fine (as long as it has very little to no carbs/fats). You can also choke down some BCAA's (sugar free) immediately after pinning, as this might help you reach the 25 min mark.

**Swifto** · 01-28-2012, 03:33 PM

Day 10...

Things to note so far.

I'm looking a lot more full. Its probably water retention (hence the weight gain), but I dont look puffy, bloated like I do on high dose Test, I look more crisp and vascular.

The hot flushing feeling seem to vanish after 5 or so minutes, but I feel like I've popped a viagra for a short while, I'm also going red in the face and across the chest.

The hunger is still outrageous. The added hunger and ability to sink just about any size meal is really something you need to experience. It hard to explain, but if I am full, I cam literally eat again in minutes.

I am sleeping a lot better. I struggle to sleep a lot anyhow and am sleeping far deeper. Although this is good, I'm finding it harder to get out of bed!

No chang in strength and still up the same amount of weight, but I dont look nearly as bloated as I usually do on steroids (even when using an AI). I feel like I dont need anything else in the way of anabolic support right now. Currently on 250mg/wk Sust, was on one shot every 9 days, now 7. I dont need to add anything else thus far.

I am noticing a difference, for sure.

**baseline_9** · 01-28-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto;5880***

Day 10...

Things to note so far.

I'm looking a lot more full. Its probably water retention (hence the weight gain), but I dont look puffy, bloated like I do on high dose Test, I look more crisp and vascular.

The hot flushing feeling seem to vanish after 5 or so minutes, but I feel like I've popped a viagra for a short while, I'm also going red in the face and across the chest.

The hunger is still outrageous. The added hunger and ability to sink just about any size meal is really something you need to experience. It hard to explain, but if I am full, I cam literally eat again in minutes.

I am sleeping a lot better. I struggle to sleep a lot anyhow and am sleeping far deeper. Although this is good, I'm finding it harder to get out of bed!

No chang in strength and still up the same amount of weight, but I dont look nearly as bloated as I usually do on steroids (even when using an AI). I feel like I dont need anything else in the way of anabolic support right now. Currently on 250mg/wk Sust, was on one shot every 9 days, now 7. I dont need to add anything else thus far.

I am noticing a difference, for sure.

Sound good bro.... I'm more interested now

**Swifto** · 02-02-2012, 07:20 AM

Day 15...

The sleeping is really noticable, I'm sleeping very well now and deep, but it makes it harder to get out of bed!

Tingly hands has gone but the flushing feeling is still evident, but not every shot. My body is probably getting used to it.

Hunger is still unreal.

Weight is the same, still up a few lbs and looking leaner all round. I imagine the body fat reduction really comes into play just like synthetic GH in months. I have reduced carbs slightly, so I'm holding the same weight on less cals.

Strength is the same.

**StrongBBer427** · 02-02-2012, 11:29 PM

Im going to be doing the same stack ( well just the peptides). Reading this and alot of your other posts have helped alot but im a little confused.

I have a 1ml insulin pin.. if its 5mg of ghrp-6 and 2ml BAC 100mcgs would only be to the 2nd tick? that seems like hardly anything? its not even halfway up to the 10 unit mark. Am i missing something here? Thanks!

**Swifto** · 02-05-2012, 06:09 PM

Day 18...

Just decided to do a large shot for the hell of it and I have an enormous flushing feeling, no tingling, just flushing and redness.

I'm still looking lean and up another lb. I'm almost looking the best I have looked right now, but I put that down to mostly good training and a very clean diet, butt hese peptides are giving me an edge I think. If this is what GH is like, its a magical formula.

I have a feeling after this peptide run, I'm hitting the real macoy.

**M302_Imola** · 02-06-2012, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by StrongBBer427

Im going to be doing the same stack ( well just the peptides). Reading this and alot of your other posts have helped alot but im a little confused.

I have a 1ml insulin pin.. if its 5mg of ghrp-6 and 2ml BAC 100mcgs would only be to the 2nd tick? that seems like hardly anything? its not even halfway up to the 10 unit mark. Am i missing something here? Thanks!

2mg = 1ml bac water, draw out 5 ticks = 100mcg
5mg = 2.5ml bac water, draw out 5 ticks = 100mcg

Note: The above reconstitution method and pin extraction is only valid for 1/2cc slin pins.

Originally Posted by Swifto

Day 18...

Just decided to do a large shot for the hell of it and I have an enormous flushing feeling, no tingling, just flushing and redness.

I'm still looking lean and up another lb. I'm almost looking the best I have looked right now, but I put that down to mostly good training and a very clean diet, butt hese peptides are giving me an edge I think. If this is what GH is like, its a magical formula.

I have a feeling after this peptide run, I'm hitting the real macoy.

Good to hear Swifto...after this peptide run you should look into running the peptides + GH

**OnTheSauce** · 02-06-2012, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

2mg = 1ml bac water, draw out 5 ticks = 100mcg
5mg = 2.5ml bac water, draw out 5 ticks = 100mcg

he has 1cc syringes. not .5cc

**StrongBBer427** · 02-06-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

he has 1cc syringes. not .5cc

Right. And only add 1ml to 2mg?

**Overdoze** · 02-07-2012, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

he has 1cc syringes. not .5cc

Imola told the 1cc usage. Or not?

I have 1cc syringes. I will use his dosage (5 ticks=100mcg).

100mcg/5000mcg x 2.5ml=0.05ml (5 tick)---->100mcg ghrp
100mcg/2000mcg x 1ml =0.05ml (5 tick)---->100mcg cjc

**M302_Imola** · 02-07-2012, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

he has 1cc syringes. not .5cc

Good catch...not sure why anyone would use 1cc instead of 1/2cc when pinning peptides

Originally Posted by StrongBBer427

Right. And only add 1ml to 2mg?

Yes this will not change only how many ticks you draw up depending upon if you're using a 1/2 or 1cc slin pin

Originally Posted by Overdoze

Imola told the 1cc usage. Or not?

I have 1cc syringes. I will use his dosage (5 ticks=100mcg).

100mcg/5000mcg x 2.5ml=0.05ml (5 tick)---->100mcg ghrp
100mcg/2000mcg x 1ml =0.05ml (5 tick)---->100mcg cjc

I only use 1/2cc slin pins so maybe someone else can set you straight on how many ticks you need to draw up to equal 100mcg using this reconstitution method.

**Overdoze** · 02-07-2012, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Good catch...not sure why anyone would use 1cc instead of 1/2cc when pinning peptides

Yes this will not change only how many ticks you draw up depending upon if you're using a 1/2 or 1cc slin pin

I only use 1/2cc slin pins so maybe someone else can set you straight on how many ticks you need to draw up to equal 100mcg using this reconstitution method.

I think no difference between the 1cc and the 1/2cc syringes. The milliliter fractions are same. If I need 0.05ml I have to draw to the 5th tick on the syringes (1cc syringes).

Am I right?

Sorry, but I want sure before I start the peptides.
Im already ordered 100 piece 1cc syringes...

**ajordana** · 02-07-2012, 09:50 PM

swifto, would you say this combo would be worth it to run for the last couple months of my bulk?

**M302_Imola** · 02-08-2012, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by Overdoze

I think no difference between the 1cc and the 1/2cc syringes. The milliliter fractions are same. If I need 0.05ml I have to draw to the 5th tick on the syringes (1cc syringes).

Am I right?

Sorry, but I want sure before I start the peptides.
Im already ordered 100 piece 1cc syringes...

How you reconstitute the peptide will not change but drawing out the peptide into the slin pin might be different. I know on my 1/2cc slin pins I draw out to the 5 (which is the 5th line/tick). I don't think the 5 is listed on the 1cc pins as increments of 10 are used so just draw up to 1/2 the 10 mark and this should equal 100mcg.

**Flier** · 02-08-2012, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Day 18...

Just decided to do a large shot for the hell of it and I have an enormous flushing feeling, no tingling, just flushing and redness.

I'm still looking lean and up another lb. I'm almost looking the best I have looked right now, but I put that down to mostly good training and a very clean diet, butt hese peptides are giving me an edge I think. If this is what GH is like, its a magical formula.

I have a feeling after this peptide run, I'm hitting the real macoy.

By that I assume u mean injectable HGH.
Sounds like the peptides work a lot faster than the HGH. Is this true?
Is he main reason you and others use GHRH instead of HGH the cost?
Dude, sorry to hear about your acne again, hope you will eventually get it under control.

**Overdoze** · 02-08-2012, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

How you reconstitute the peptide will not change but drawing out the peptide into the slin pin might be different. I know on my 1/2cc slin pins I draw out to the 5 (which is the 5th line/tick). I don't think the 5 is listed on the 1cc pins as increments of 10 are used so just draw up to 1/2 the 10 mark and this should equal 100mcg.

Thanks dude!

I make sure. On the 1cc syringes every tick mark equal with two tick mark on the 1/2 syringes. So, If I add 2ml BW to the 5mg GHRP, I need draw until the second tick mark.

**RaginCajun** · 02-09-2012, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Day 18...

Just decided to do a large shot for the hell of it and I have an enormous flushing feeling, no tingling, just flushing and redness.

I'm still looking lean and up another lb. I'm almost looking the best I have looked right now, but I put that down to mostly good training and a very clean diet, butt hese peptides are giving me an edge I think. If this is what GH is like, its a magical formula.

I have a feeling after this peptide run, I'm hitting the real macoy.

glad that you are success only after 18 days. looks like you are putting in the work and it is paying off. do you feel overall, 'healthier' now since you have been on peptides? do you feel like this could help heal injuries faster? always respected your input and knowledge on things. cheers

**OnTheSauce** · 02-09-2012, 11:20 PM

ive only been on 14 days and im leaner than 2 weeks ago and the same weight. I'm on pct as well so this is great for me. been doing 400mcg a day. 100mcg when i wake up, 100mcg after workout, and 200mcg before bed. I don't feel much different, but can definitely tell I am leaner and at the same bodyweight.

**M302_Imola** · 02-10-2012, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

ive only been on 14 days and im leaner than 2 weeks ago and the same weight. I'm on pct as well so this is great for me. been doing 400mcg a day. 100mcg when i wake up, 100mcg after workout, and 200mcg before bed. I don't feel much different, but can definitely tell I am leaner and at the same bodyweight.

400mcg of what? I assume you are talking about one of the GHRP's and hope you are pairing this w/ a GHRH (mod grf or CJC-1295 no DAC). To do a GHRP without a GHRH would be a waste of money IMO, since the two work synergetically together to give you a much higher/longer spike in GH.

**DanB** · 02-13-2012, 06:49 PM

Bump

Any updates for us?

**Swifto** · 02-14-2012, 02:06 PM

Day 26...

I've experimented a bit and done some fairly high doses of each now. Around 250mcg CJC and 300mcg GHRP-6. I tried this a few days ago just once and my right hand (only the underside of it) begins to get numb when its not down the side of my body (blood drained). Is that normal from GH/peptide use? It feels like I've leant on it for a long time when asleep and has been like it since the large shot. During the time after the large shots, I've gone back to injected 3x day with 100mcg of each...

Weight is the same, but I'm looking more vascular and full.

Strength is up now noticably. I've done a few shots of Winstrol Depot to tests the pain at varuous sites and its fine, so I'm styaing at 50mg/EOD, done 4 shots in all now.

Sleep is still deep and dreams are very real. I am lethergic slightly now as the sleep is so deep and it makes it harder to wake, but I'm getting a good 7 or so hours now, non-stop.

**M302_Imola** · 02-15-2012, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Day 26...

I've experimented a bit and done some fairly high doses of each now. Around 250mcg CJC and 300mcg GHRP-6. I tried this a few days ago just once and my right hand (only the underside of it) begins to get numb when its not down the side of my body (blood drained). Is that normal from GH/peptide use? It feels like I've leant on it for a long time when asleep and has been like it since the large shot. During the time after the large shots, I've gone back to injected 3x day with 100mcg of each...

Weight is the same, but I'm looking more vascular and full.

Strength is up now noticably. I've done a few shots of Winstrol Depot to tests the pain at varuous sites and its fine, so I'm styaing at 50mg/EOD, done 4 shots in all now.

Sleep is still deep and dreams are very real. I am lethergic slightly now as the sleep is so deep and it makes it harder to wake, but I'm getting a good 7 or so hours now, non-stop.

Sounds like normal GH/peptide sides with that high of dosages. So you're liking the winstrol thus far (I know it's early)? Is it oil or water based? I've never done winny injectable but I've heard the water based hurts like a bitch! Can you tell if the winny is already drying you out?

**Overdoze** · 02-21-2012, 05:11 AM

Hey Swifto!

What's up?

**Swifto** · 02-22-2012, 12:35 PM

Day 34....

I have realised why my left hand was going numb.... It was the peptides and becuase dipshit over here (me), only mixed 1ml in my 5mg GHRP-6. So my dose was doubled to 200mcg 3x day with CJC-1295 at 100mcg. Without upping the CJC-1295, I have experienced the hand numbness, some may find that interesting...

I am actually looking the best I have ever looked in the mirror today and I'm almost certain its becuase of the peptides. I am on 250mg Omna or Sust per week, which is a low dose just higher than HRT and also 50mg Winstrol Depot every other day (low dose again). Strength is also up in all area's. Trained back today and although I have been feeling lethargic recently, my strength is up. This is proabbly due to the peptides and now added Winstrol.

Just over a month in and I'm liking these peptides a lot. I'm going to br running them for atleast another 2 months at the same dose, so we will see how I progress over time...

The body fat reduction has already started IMO, but i have also dropped carbs slightly and am almost at my heaviest and looking leaner. Sust+Winstrol wont have accomplished that from my past experience.

Side...

Hand numbness, but only left hand. I have it now as I type.

Deeper sleeping and lethargic when waking. I'm usually straight out of bed.

I am getting itchy spots where I am injecting (abdomen), so have changed up to glutes and quads (subq).

**Chuckdiesel** · 02-22-2012, 05:01 PM

I'll have to agree with ya swifto...I love the hell out of these peptides! Im running mod grf 1-29 and ghrp 6 at about 65% of my body weight in mcg and have been for about a month now and can say im experiencing the same as you are...minus the left hand numbness lol. My right hand gets all tingly though. I was inj sub q for the first 3 weeks and this last week I switched to intramuscular and I would have to strongly recommend that route of administration. I couldn't say for sure if its more beneficial, but I can say my sides come on faster and much stronger that way. In about 3 weeks or so im gonna add some test to the mix and I so cant wait!

**Swifto** · 02-23-2012, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckdiesel

I'll have to agree with ya swifto...I love the hell out of these peptides! Im running mod grf 1-29 and ghrp 6 at about 65% of my body weight in mcg and have been for about a month now and can say im experiencing the same as you are...minus the left hand numbness lol. My right hand gets all tingly though. I was inj sub q for the first 3 weeks and this last week I switched to intramuscular and I would have to strongly recommend that route of administration. I couldn't say for sure if its more beneficial, but I can say my sides come on faster and much stronger that way. In about 3 weeks or so im gonna add some test to the mix and I so cant wait!

I'm going to give IM a go for a few days.

**M302_Imola** · 02-23-2012, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckdiesel

I'll have to agree with ya swifto...I love the hell out of these peptides! Im running mod grf 1-29 and ghrp 6 at about 65% of my body weight in mcg and have been for about a month now and can say im experiencing the same as you are...minus the left hand numbness lol. My right hand gets all tingly though. I was inj sub q for the first 3 weeks and this last week I switched to intramuscular and I would have to strongly recommend that route of administration. I couldn't say for sure if its more beneficial, but I can say my sides come on faster and much stronger that way. In about 3 weeks or so im gonna add some test to the mix and I so cant wait!

Interesting...from my research clearing time of GH shouldn't change w/ either injection method (subq or IM). That being said if subq is irritating the point of injection then I see nothing wrong w/ IM injections, but I don't think it will effect the endogenous GH spike or clearing time.

**Overdoze** · 02-23-2012, 07:06 AM

Sounds are good, keep the way!

**Chuckdiesel** · 02-23-2012, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Interesting...from my research clearing time of GH shouldn't change w/ either injection method (subq or IM). That being said if subq is irritating the point of injection then I see nothing wrong w/ IM injections, but I don't think it will effect the endogenous GH spike or clearing time.

Very true as that is what I've read and researched myself, the only difference I see, both from text and personal experience, is that the GH spike sets in faster through IM opposed to sub q...I've read going IV sets in even quicker, bit I wouldn't dare put a pin my vein to inject...no joke lol. I recommend trying it swifto and document your experience to either make or break my case lol

**Chuckdiesel** · 02-25-2012, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Interesting...from my research clearing time of GH shouldn't change w/ either injection method (subq or IM). That being said if subq is irritating the point of injection then I see nothing wrong w/ IM injections, but I don't think it will effect the endogenous GH spike or clearing time.

In humans, a dose of 1.5mcg/kg (150mcg for a 100kg male) of GHRP-2 or GHRP-6 when combined with a modified GRF 1-29 of equal dosage creates a three-hour pulse of GH

that is double the amplitude of an 8 IU synthetic (e.coli derived) growth hormone dose.[4] IV, intramuscular and subcutaneous routes lead to different onset times but roughly

similar peaks and declines. Due to ease of synthesis (as opposed to the complicated process of creating GH from e. coli), safety, and lower cost, modified GRF 1-29 together

with GHRP-2, GHRP- 6 or the newer Ipamorelin, taken as part of comprehensive therapy may supplant conventional exogenous GH therapy.

Here is a little bit of text that I read that started my research into different administration routes...im hoping the IM route is treating ya well swifto! Though I find there still is a little bit of irritation when inj into the muscle and I'll get a little red bump. Its not really itchy but you can feel the slight irritation.

**Anabolicdoode** · 02-25-2012, 09:58 PM

Loving your log swifto keep up the good work! let us know what you thought of the IM injection in a few days! I'll be doing the same peps soon and can't wait! Good job mate!